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Originally Posted by Vocans

There's a difference between having gauges at the top of your list and having something completely unacceptable in a car at this price point. Between the gauges, CUE, the garbage haptic feedback touch sensitive buttons all over the interior, the steep depreciation curve, GM build quality, and Cadillac dealers, I wouldn't buy an ATS-V when it's priced the same as an M3. I didn't even bother test driving one.

If you didn't test drive an ATS-V how can you evaluate the build quality, gauges, button feedback, and CUE? Assuming one has to go to a dealership to test drive a car, how do you know the dealership as good or bad? As far as build quality goes, BMW doesn't rank any better than Cadillac and depreciation is about the same as well.

The BMW dealership in Virginia I used to have my 23,000 mile (at the time in January 2015) aligned said they couldn't align the rear because there was something wrong with the components, but they couldn't be specific. The SA thought I had bought the CarMax extended warranty and as trying to milk it. Keep in mind this was the same dealership and SA that I had taken my '06 E90 with 263,000 miles (with all original suspension components except thrust arms and dampers at each corner- replaced at 185,000 miles) in October 2014 and they aligned it right up and made no mention of the age or wear of the suspension. The Cadillac dealership I've taken my Hummer to for insurance work (rodent damage) and one recall notice has a fantastic service department. That same dealership I had a terrible experience with the sales staff however. Point is dealerships are dealerships. To go and make a blanket statement about how bad Cadillac dealerships are as a reason you wouldn't buy an ATS-V is just Roundel fanboyism.