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      08-06-2014, 01:26 PM   #243
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Interested to weigh in tonight after 10 days of Mediterranean cruise over-eating, walking, and 3 gym sessions.
Potentially lost weight... weighed in 161.4lbs, but I think I look bigger. My appetite has been off for a few days due to return travel/sudden change in routine back to normal. I also wasn't drinking enough water on my trip.
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Nope! You will lose weight (..especially if you're carrying around a lot of body fat as it is), BUT you will generally look bigger although you are technically smaller/lighter. As for "burning fat and building muscle at the same time", only the rare genetic freak can accomplish this to a degree, but even with that considered you can't burn significant amounts of fat AND build muscle at the same time. The reason? Burning fat requires a caloric deficit and dedicated cardio. Building muscle requires a caloric surplus and cardio is performed very sparingly or not at all.
For the first 5 months i had a big deficit approx. 700+ calories. I was taking in anywhere from 1000-1500 calories a day and hitting the gym 5-6 days a week then Summer hit and here we are. I was stuck at 148-150lbs and couldn't lose anymore so I thought If i can't drop anymore then I'm gonna bulk or at least try. So I started lifting more heavy and laid of the treadmill and eventually stopped going.
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hey new guy in this thread. Have been back to lifting for the last year after a few years off. Started at 225lbs and dropped to 170bs. I then bulked and am currently sitting at around 190lbs. Want to drop about 5-8lbs of fat still so I can see abs clearly.

Final goal is to be around 200-210.
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      08-07-2014, 05:51 PM   #246
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Awesome! Not sure if you're being facetious or not but I'm glad you pushed through. If I had a part in that, fantastic. I love seeing people suceed.
You said earlier that if I exercise I can eat

My 15yo son wants to start going to the gym. I allowed him to go to the HS gym the second week of summer to work with the coach we thought would have the JV team next year. The guy just didn't seem to know what to do with a kid who has never been to the gym before. The next day my son couldn't walk (literally). Coach had him in there a full 2 hours, and kept slapping plates on the rack and pushing him to exhaustion on each set.

I want to go in with him, make sure he does things with good form before trying to add weight. Then it gets him (safely) into the gym and me just into the gym.
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You said earlier that if I exercise I can eat

My 15yo son wants to start going to the gym. I allowed him to go to the HS gym the second week of summer to work with the coach we thought would have the JV team next year. The guy just didn't seem to know what to do with a kid who has never been to the gym before. The next day my son couldn't walk (literally). Coach had him in there a full 2 hours, and kept slapping plates on the rack and pushing him to exhaustion on each set.

I want to go in with him, make sure he does things with good form before trying to add weight. Then it gets him (safely) into the gym and me just into the gym.
My son said the same thing. He's a lineman so all they do in there is max out for power.
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      08-07-2014, 06:18 PM   #248
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My son plays left field and catcher though. . .

Still, easily ruins a kid, and I think my son was actually hurt because it's been YEARS since we had to put in a pinch-runner for him, and we did that Saturday.
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You said earlier that if I exercise I can eat

My 15yo son wants to start going to the gym. I allowed him to go to the HS gym the second week of summer to work with the coach we thought would have the JV team next year. The guy just didn't seem to know what to do with a kid who has never been to the gym before. The next day my son couldn't walk (literally). Coach had him in there a full 2 hours, and kept slapping plates on the rack and pushing him to exhaustion on each set.

I want to go in with him, make sure he does things with good form before trying to add weight. Then it gets him (safely) into the gym and me just into the gym.
Oh wow. That sounds like a sure-fire way to damage his body and get some nasty injuries. His body needs to get used to those motions and exercises FIRST. He needs to focus on form and correct range of motion. It sounds like you're better suited to provide that knowledge than the coach; I would be nervous to let him back in there unsupervised but it sounds like you've already got a plan for that.

Make sure he has ample time to recover. Stretching is important as is nutrition.
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@954Stealth and @Sedan_Clan

Due to my schedule, the only time i can hit up the gym is around 8:30pm.

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Is it a good idea to do some morning cardio (mainly pull ups and v ups) and then go to the gym at night and do heavy weights?

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Should i just do the cardio when i'm in the gym at night.

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Ran the track again on Saturday,, test is next week. 200 meters in 38.5 (under 40) and 50m in 8.7 (under 9) The lizard actually protected me Saturday. If I had kept running the extra unwind laps, my blood sugar would have been lower than the 55 it was at when I got home.
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@954Stealth and @Sedan_Clan

Due to my schedule, the only time i can hit up the gym is around 8:30pm.

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Is it a good idea to do some morning cardio (mainly pull ups and v ups) and then go to the gym at night and do heavy weights?

OR

Should i just do the cardio when i'm in the gym at night.

Thanks.
If you're going to do morning cardio, do actual cardio. You'll benefit more from it (..from a cardiovascular and aesthetic perspective).
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@954Stealth and @Sedan_Clan

Due to my schedule, the only time i can hit up the gym is around 8:30pm.

Question:
Is it a good idea to do some morning cardio (mainly pull ups and v ups) and then go to the gym at night and do heavy weights?

OR

Should i just do the cardio when i'm in the gym at night.

Thanks.
I would say do what works best with your schedule since this is what will most likely help you keep to your plans for the long term.

Some would argue that having both a morning and an evening session would be an added benefit for fat loss since you'll have two output sessions, two peaks and thereby should keep your metabolism higher.

Ultimately it is about overall intake and output. Split it up if you want to, you'll be fine.

and re: @Sedan_Clan 's comment: I agree 100%...if you want to do a morning cardio session do some CARDIO. Maybe a quick HIIT session to get the day started.
Save the pullups and "stuff" for the evening session.
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      08-11-2014, 12:45 PM   #254
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Quick question guys,

Before I get bashed for asking people on the interest advice on a medical issue, please note that I am just looking for opinions, if you all would be so kind!

So, I noticed blood coming from my belly button. In it, you can see there are red dots, so I originally thought it was a simple infection. But, it went away, and came back this week. Now I'm starting to think it has to do with weightlifting, specifically ab exercises. I recently started picking up ab workouts, where I work my abs pretty hard. Although the results have been terrific thus far, I hate the blood seeping out, and of course, it's a sign of my body telling me something's not right.

My question is, has anyone else experienced something similar? Obviously most of you guys have been lifting for quite some time, so there might be a chance that someone has had a similar issue.

Just carious is all, I know I should go see a doctor. If it doesn't go away, I will go see my doctor soon.

Thanks!
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Quick question guys,

Before I get bashed for asking people on the interest advice on a medical issue, please note that I am just looking for opinions, if you all would be so kind!

So, I noticed blood coming from my belly button. In it, you can see there are red dots, so I originally thought it was a simple infection. But, it went away, and came back this week. Now I'm starting to think it has to do with weightlifting, specifically ab exercises. I recently started picking up ab workouts, where I work my abs pretty hard. Although the results have been terrific thus far, I hate the blood seeping out, and of course, it's a sign of my body telling me something's not right.

My question is, has anyone else experienced something similar? Obviously most of you guys have been lifting for quite some time, so there might be a chance that someone has had a similar issue.

Just carious is all, I know I should go see a doctor. If it doesn't go away, I will go see my doctor soon.

Thanks!
Most likely an infection that your physician will be able to diagnose and treat by RX'ing you an antibiotic
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Quick question guys,

Before I get bashed for asking people on the interest advice on a medical issue, please note that I am just looking for opinions, if you all would be so kind!

So, I noticed blood coming from my belly button. In it, you can see there are red dots, so I originally thought it was a simple infection. But, it went away, and came back this week. Now I'm starting to think it has to do with weightlifting, specifically ab exercises. I recently started picking up ab workouts, where I work my abs pretty hard. Although the results have been terrific thus far, I hate the blood seeping out, and of course, it's a sign of my body telling me something's not right.

My question is, has anyone else experienced something similar? Obviously most of you guys have been lifting for quite some time, so there might be a chance that someone has had a similar issue.

Just carious is all, I know I should go see a doctor. If it doesn't go away, I will go see my doctor soon.

Thanks!

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Quick question guys,

Before I get bashed for asking people on the interest advice on a medical issue, please note that I am just looking for opinions, if you all would be so kind!

So, I noticed blood coming from my belly button. In it, you can see there are red dots, so I originally thought it was a simple infection. But, it went away, and came back this week. Now I'm starting to think it has to do with weightlifting, specifically ab exercises. I recently started picking up ab workouts, where I work my abs pretty hard. Although the results have been terrific thus far, I hate the blood seeping out, and of course, it's a sign of my body telling me something's not right.

My question is, has anyone else experienced something similar? Obviously most of you guys have been lifting for quite some time, so there might be a chance that someone has had a similar issue.

Just carious is all, I know I should go see a doctor. If it doesn't go away, I will go see my doctor soon.

Thanks!
Never happened to me before. You should definitely get it checked out .Blood seeping out from your belly button sounds scary.
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I would say do what works best with your schedule since this is what will most likely help you keep to your plans for the long term.

Some would argue that having both a morning and an evening session would be an added benefit for fat loss since you'll have two output sessions, two peaks and thereby should keep your metabolism higher.

Ultimately it is about overall intake and output. Split it up if you want to, you'll be fine.

and re: @Sedan_Clan 's comment: I agree 100%...if you want to do a morning cardio session do some CARDIO. Maybe a quick HIIT session to get the day started.
Save the pullups and "stuff" for the evening session.
As always thank fellas
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Weighed at the Dr. this morning: 195. Better than I thought.

Belly button, do you have an innie or an outie? IF an outie, you may be aggravating the hernia.
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Never happened to me before. You should definitely get it checked out .Blood seeping out from your belly button sounds scary.
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Weighed at the Dr. this morning: 195. Better than I thought.

Belly button, do you have an innie or an outie? IF an outie, you may be aggravating the hernia.
Thanks for the advice fellas. Everything cleared up, never felt better.

I may be out on a limb with this one, but I think the issue was due to Casein protein. I started taking Casein protein the same time the first time this issue came about. Stopped, it cleared up. Started back up again, more blood from my belly button. Plus that goopy crap always used to do a number on my stomach and cause cramps.

Now if I can just figure out why my forearms won't grow.
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139 as of the other day. Haven't been working out. Stressed out between work and my SO constantly battling each other over frivolous things. Completely stripped any determination I had to get back into the gym. Feel like doodoo.
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139 as of the other day. Haven't been working out. Stressed out between work and my SO constantly battling each other over frivolous things. Completely stripped any determination I had to get back into the gym. Feel like doodoo.
Use your stress as a means to let out anger and frustration at the gym.

Best pre-workout supplement, in my opinion, is rage.
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Use your stress as a means to let out anger and frustration at the gym.

Best pre-workout supplement, in my opinion, is rage.
Normally I would, and I hate complaining, but what my SO and I have been going through is starting to put me in a downward spiral. We can't go a week without some sort of fight. Last night it happened again, and now she is telling me that I'll never be the BF she deserves, I don't comfort her, etc. Yet here she is, living off me so she can go to school, treats me like an asshole, then gets mad when I shut down.

It's had a huge impact on myself and my motivations to be better. I've given everything I have for this person, and to be berated and talked down on?

The gym has been far from my mind the past couple weeks. It sucks.
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