[MJBO]

Originally Posted by sausage4

LOL sounds better than a gt3, ok there...

Agreed, I'd take the glorious noise of the flat six over the obnoxious exhaust on the F Type R every day of the week.

Don't get me wrong, the Jaguar sounds hilarious at first but starts to feel silly and antisocial really quickly.

[bvanlieu]

Recently cross shopped these cars: Ftype is a good looking pig. A pig in that for its size, its waaaaaay too heavy for someone like me who likes toss-able cars.

991.1 is a fantastic car, but a bit too GT for our tastes (my wife drives the sports cars too), so when all was said and done we ended up with a 981 GTS as its just such a playful mid engined sports car.

The 991 was a bit sterile for back road driving: still stupid fast if pushed but lacked that feel if you like smaller cars compared to a 981. If the F type drove like a 981 we'd have a different discussion. If you driving is a bit more highway/high speed the 991 is likely a better ride since: GT car.

If getting a 991 be sure you like the seats and it has a sports exhaust IMHO. Base seats are horrible for normal sized folks: fits wider people. The PSE is just a giggle fest when turned on.

- b

[baege]

Originally Posted by bvanlieu

Recently cross shopped these cars: Ftype is a good looking pig. A pig in that for its size, its waaaaaay too heavy for someone like me who likes toss-able cars.

991.1 is a fantastic car, but a bit too GT for our tastes (my wife drives the sports cars too), so when all was said and done we ended up with a 981 GTS as its just such a playful mid engined sports car.

The 991 was a bit sterile for back road driving: still stupid fast if pushed but lacked that feel if you like smaller cars compared to a 981. If the F type drove like a 981 we'd have a different discussion. If you driving is a bit more highway/high speed the 991 is likely a better ride since: GT car.

If getting a 991 be sure you like the seats and it has a sports exhaust IMHO. Base seats are horrible for normal sized folks: fits wider people. The PSE is just a giggle fest when turned on.

- b

I know what you mean, before ordered my second 981S, I test drove a 991 (non-S) and i found it less engaging than my 981S

I recently test drove a 981GTS looking to bring back that loving feeling and I found it torqueless now that I am used to the b58

the 991S has a lot more torque I know, but it can't compare to the torque of the f type

so yeah still utterly confused

the practical side of me says 991S (as most replies to this thread recommend), but the ftype made me smile like a child..

[baege]

Originally Posted by MJBO

Agreed, I'd take the glorious noise of the flat six over the obnoxious exhaust on the F Type R every day of the week.

Don't get me wrong, the Jaguar sounds hilarious at first but starts to feel silly and antisocial really quickly.

hmm I do have to admit I do wonder about the longevity of the fun in the jag...

[baege]

Originally Posted by scoobysaurus

F-Type, by a country mile.

Looks & sounds way better. 911 has better handling dynamics but that's about it. Unless you're Randy Pobst & tracking your car everyday go for the F-Type. It'll keep you happier on a daily basis where it matters most - on the street.

I do love torque and I can not lie and the ftype REALLY delivers in that area...the short bursts of speed that torque offers are probably the most accessible fun in an urban area like where I am...

[StatenEye]

Originally Posted by dgoldenz

Have you ever driven one? The 991S with an xpipe exhaust is incredible.

OP - Porsche and it’s not even close. You’ll get the most bang for your buck with a 2012-2013 though. Same car as a 16 but will be at the lower end of 991 values so it won’t depreciate as much. I bought mine for $58k in 2016 and sold it for $67k in March. That will never happen with a Jaguar.

That's sick.

[P1]

Porsche all day, no contest...

[StatenEye]

Originally Posted by baege

the ftype made me smile like a child..

This is the only thing that matters. Get what you want.

[Darth One]

Originally Posted by StatenEye

This is the only thing that matters. Get what you want.

Yeah, I agree. I have the totally opposite opinion of which car makes me smile, but despite that I would say you should absolutely get the car that excites you

[c1pher]

That’s a tough one. The 911 is just very good all around. The F Type maybe has a little more luxury, unpredictability and one of the best exhaust notes you’ll ever hear. I’ve never driven an R (have heard a number of them) but did drive a F Type S and almost bought it just because of how it sounded.

[bvanlieu]

Originally Posted by baege

I know what you mean, before ordered my second 981S, I test drove a 991 (non-S) and i found it less engaging than my 981S

I recently test drove a 981GTS looking to bring back that loving feeling and I found it torqueless now that I am used to the b58

the 991S has a lot more torque I know, but it can't compare to the torque of the f type

so yeah still utterly confused

the practical side of me says 991S (as most replies to this thread recommend), but the ftype made me smile like a child..

You need a 991.2 then: the new turbo engines are so well balanced. A 991.2 C2 is a beast, no S required.

The 718 is similar in that the 2.5T for the S is a sea of torque if you can get past the wet fart exhaust note. My dollar cannot get past it and the flat 6 sings instead.

My other car is a 335d, so I have the other end of the spectrum of addictive twist at low RPM, but for sports cars I want to rev it, feel it and hopefully not be too illegal. The 3.4 is arguable too much for the cayman. A 3.0 would be perfect

- b

[mremg]

Get the F-Type. You can always buy a Porsche later in life. The P-car owners bless them, will take good care and keep'em running in great condition.

[Alfisti]

Originally Posted by stevenvillatoro

Porsche, without a doubt. Shouldn't even need to ask this question.

This. It's an S too so the power gap isn't all that big.

[Alfisti]

Originally Posted by baege

the practical side of me says 991S (as most replies to this thread recommend), but the ftype made me smile like a child..

Then it's easy, get the jag.

Done.

[FriskyDingo]

As someone who has driven several versions of both cars in question, I will say it's quite possibly one of the hardest between-two-cars decision one could have to make.

Now to answer the question. The 911 is clearly the superior car. It is more engaging, has a superior chassis along with steering, brakes, and handling. It's more precise, more communicative, and definitely the better of the two to wring out down a twisty backroad. If you have kids, the back seat could even be a big point. It will definitely be more reliable, and it will definitely hold it's value better, at least for the immediate future- 3-5ish years.

That said, and something you pointed out, no 991 short of a GT car even begins to approach the charm and character of a V8 F Type. The engine is glorious, with Herculean power and a sound to wake the dead. I honestly think aside from lack of a back seat, it's no less practical, and no harder to daily drive. It's quite a comfortable car, and though visibility isn't as good as a 911, it's a very easily managed car in traffic and whatnot. Though the interior definitely leaves some to be desired, I think the dead sexy body it's wrapped up in makes up for it. Also, though it may have inferior driving dynamics, I think it's actually more fun on the street in and urban area because of the engine and power delivery. I personally adore the F Type, and like you said, I've never emerged from driving a V8 one without a huge grin plastered on my face.

At the end of the day, unless the rear seats were a major factor, I don't think I could buy a 911 S over an F Type. Not a PDK car, anyway. If it were a perfectly spec'd manual, there might be more contest. My pick of F Types would honestly be an earlier RWD convertible though.

Ultimately, you can't go wrong either way. Just enjoy whatever you end up buying every chance you get!

[xander_g]

Porsche, without a shadow of a doubt.

[FC4]

I have an F-Type as well as a few 991s. Between those two choices, get the Jag.

[baege]

Originally Posted by FC4

I have an F-Type as well as a few 991s. Between those two choices, get the Jag.

well sound like you would know

but why the jag?

[FC4]

Originally Posted by baege

well sound like you would know

but why the jag?

The standard Carreras are definitely great cars but there's nothing special about them. You'll find yourself lusting after a GT car every time you see one and look to upgrade very soon. The F-Type is faster, looks better, sounds better, and will be more fun to drive around town. Comfort and practicality is a wash, but build quality and driving dynamics definitely favor the Porsche.

[Flacht3]

Originally Posted by sausage4

LOL sounds better than a gt3, ok there...

I love that this guy edited his post to remove "gt3".

Anyways, I'd go 911 over F-Type. F-Type may be satisfying in the short term but I think you'll wish you went 911 if you're keeping it for more than 1-2 years.

With that said, I'd try and stretch to see if you can get into a GTS. With the new 992 being unveiled prices may drop in the short-term enough to grab one. The 2016 GTS also has an NA and that car would be a keeper IMO.

[RichM50d]

Just ask yourself, do you want a German scalpel, or an unreliable Indian money pit?

[Flacht3]

Originally Posted by RichM50d

Just ask yourself, do you want a German scalpel, or an unreliable Indian money pit?

Yes but the unreliable Indian money pit sounds soooo good.

But yea, overall you should take the scalpel.