[shimshimhada]

Get the Honda Element if you need a car to move pets.

Don't do a K20a2 swap, that's weak. Drop a LS7 in there.

[r3amir]

It is not at all going to be a fun car to drive

[Nikki]

Originally Posted by r3amir

It is not at all going to be a fun car to drive

with a K20 it will run circles around my e90.

[shimshimhada]

Originally Posted by Nikki

with a K20 it will run circles around my e90.

No, it'll understeer straight into a pole.

[Nikki]

Originally Posted by shimshimhada

No, it'll understeer straight into a pole.

Nope, supposedly it handles almost as good as a MINI stock.

[KL2DC]

Nikki...does a K20 fit in there....?? curious

[KL2DC]

Wait...of course it'll FIT ... sorry

[shimshimhada]

Originally Posted by Nikki

Nope, supposedly it handles almost as good as a MINI stock.

With the engine swap?

[maq]

Originally Posted by Nikki

a Honda Fit with a motor swap and a suspension

Originally Posted by Nikki

lol I want something reliable

I hope you can see my point.

[maq]

Originally Posted by Nikki

supposedly it handles almost as good as a MINI stock.

A Mini handles well because it has its 4 wheels placed as far out to the corners as possible, keeping most of its weight inbetween the axles and gives the car a longer wheelbase.

A short wheelbase FWD superminivan with a big engine hanging in front of the front axle will understeer like there's no tomorrow. Anyone who thinks some springs and shocks can transform a vehicle's dynamics should retake highschool physics.

The Honda is probably not bad for what it is, but don't try to make it into something it isn't.

[noflash]

Originally Posted by maq

A Mini handles well because it has its 4 wheels placed as far out to the corners as possible, keeping most of its weight inbetween the axles and gives the car a longer wheelbase.

A short wheelbase FWD superminivan with a big engine hanging in front of the front axle will understeer like there's no tomorrow. Anyone who thinks some springs and shocks can transform a vehicle's dynamics should retake highschool physics.

The Honda is probably not bad for what it is, but don't try to make it into something it isn't.

The Car and Driver article says it has great handling.

[r3amir]

I don't believe it has great handling, mini will be much better. Fit is too high and too narrow, it is like a minivan (may be better from a minivan).

Honda Fit might be new in US market, but this shape is about 2 years old in European and Australian market as Honda Jazz and in some other countires ad Honda City.

[dencoop]

I am thinking about getting one for a runabout car....but I call them as I see them.....It is a 4door - very roomy for its class and size,peppy, reliable runabout car....

I want one because if the sticker is around 15,000 that means I can get one for around 12-13 and for less then 1/3 the price of my BMW I can have a reliable fuel sipping Honda for the price of a KIA...cant beat that...

Thanks.

[Nikki]

Originally Posted by shimshimhada

With the engine swap?

No stock. I say supposedly because this is just what I'm reading from different sources and I know people in Japan that say it's incredible.

I think it's funny how some of you can just sit here and snub the Honda Fit because it's a Honda and it's inexpensive. Let me tell you, my Integra GS-R was so ridiculously fun to drive, and it may not be as fast as my e90 or handle as well, or be as comfortable, but that thing was a blast to drive and I regret getting rid of it every day. Unfortunately my 6'4" boyfriend couldn't fit in it very well.

It's so weird the variety of opinions you get on the internet. On Honda forums everyone is talking about how great the Fit is except for a few who don't like the design, but on a BMW board some people tell me to get a 10 year old 3 series for a reliable beater car to cart my dogs around in, lol.

[noflash]

Originally Posted by r3amir

I don't believe it has great handling, mini will be much better. Fit is too high and too narrow, it is like a minivan (may be better from a minivan).

Honda Fit might be new in US market, but this shape is about 2 years old in European and Australian market as Honda Jazz and in some other countires ad Honda City.

Don't think of it as a Minivan. It's smaller (on the outside) than a Civic.

It handles great because of it's suspension and meager weight.

A Mini will handle better, but has less usefull storage space.

[Nikki]

Can you compare slalom speeds to compare handling? I think you might not be able to compare unless it was exactly the same track, well the Honda Fit says:

The Fit drove like a champ, with quick steering and exquisite road feel. These impressions were confirmed on the track, where it slipped through the slalom in 6.1 seconds at 67.5 mph. The Fit felt stable and well balanced, and provided good feedback to the driver. It was about as much fun as you could have in a thrifty little car. Not only that, but the sporty handling didn't sacrifice comfort; it provided a pleasing, comfortable ride.

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=109810

The article below (pdf) from Road & Track shows the '06 Civic Si, '06 Mini Cooper S, and '06 VW GTI 2.0T and their slalom speeds are 66.8, 66.2, and 67.2 respectively. So even if those aren't comparable to the Fit, it's apparent that the Mini is outhandled by a VW hatchback and a Civic.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...data_panel.pdf

[noflash]

Yeah, I think I read that it takes the slalom as fast as a Corvette.

[BMW0]

Originally Posted by Nikki

So what do you guys think of a Honda Fit with a motor swap and a suspension, could it be the perfect fun-to-drive practical car?

$15,720

I like the clean interior, honda did well with this sprocket. Please just buy a better car instead of doing regretful things like motor swaps.

[shimshimhada]

Originally Posted by Nikki

No stock. I say supposedly because this is just what I'm reading from different sources and I know people in Japan that say it's incredible.

I think it's funny how some of you can just sit here and snub the Honda Fit because it's a Honda and it's inexpensive. Let me tell you, my Integra GS-R was so ridiculously fun to drive, and it may not be as fast as my e90 or handle as well, or be as comfortable, but that thing was a blast to drive and I regret getting rid of it every day. Unfortunately my 6'4" boyfriend couldn't fit in it very well.

It's so weird the variety of opinions you get on the internet. On Honda forums everyone is talking about how great the Fit is except for a few who don't like the design, but on a BMW board some people tell me to get a 10 year old 3 series for a reliable beater car to cart my dogs around in, lol.

Well, for a second there, your initial post about the engine swap and whatnot reminded me of those guys who always go: "DUDE! GET A 240SX WITH A SR20 SWAP!!!ONEONEONE!!111 or OMG! GET A EK9 WITH A K20A2 SWAP!!!ONEONEONE!!111."

Nobody snubbing the Fit because it's a Honda, I think most of us know that Honda has a respectable racing background.

[shimshimhada]

Originally Posted by banzai

check out some of these

J's Racing Fit







Spoon Fit






Top Fuel Fit

http://www.topfuel.info/works/index2.html

Noblesse Fit







Kenstyle Fit



Fit Spec-D



Bomex Fit









Heres the specs and options

The Fit will arrive as an MY2007 automobile.

Model ID GD3747EW - Fit 5 Door Base - 5 Speed Manual Transmission
Colors - Nighthawk Black Pearl/Black, Vivid Blue Pearl/Black, Lunar Mist/Beige, Milano Red/Beige, Storm Silver Metallic/Black, Taffeta White/Beige

Model ID GD3767EW - Fit 5 Door Sport - 5 Speed Manual Transmission
Colors - Nighthawk Black Pearl/Black, Vivid Blue Pearl/Black, Blaze Orange Metallic/Black, Milano Red/Black, Storm Silver Metallic/Black, Taffeta White/Beige, Taffeta White/Black

Model ID GD3847EW - Fit 5 Door Base - 5 Speed Auto Transmission
Colors - Nighthawk Black Pearl/Black, Vivid Blue Pearl/Black, Lunar Mist/Beige, Milano Red/Beige, Storm Silver Metallic/Black, Taffeta White/Beige

Model ID GD3867EW - Fit 5 Door Sport - 5 Speed Auto Transmission
Colors - Nighthawk Black Pearl/Black, Vivid Blue Pearl/Black, Blaze Orange Metallic/Black, Milano Red/Black, Storm Silver Metallic/Black, Taffeta White/Beige, Taffeta White/Black

Exterior Color Samples based on JDM Honda website...
Nighthawk blk pearl

vivid blue pearl

Lunar mist- no sample but i presume it will be close to this pic

Milano Red

Storm Silver Metallic

Tafetta White

Blaze Orange Metallic- Exclusive to the Sport model

Some interior samples based on the JDM site


Blaze Orange Metallic/Black, Milano Red/Black and Taffeta White/Black are exclusive color combos to the Sport trim.

2007 Honda Fit- Specifications
By American Honda Motor Company
Sun, 8 Jan 2006, 17:06:00



Torrance, Calif. 01/08/2006 --








. Fit Fit Sport
Engineering
Engine Type In-Line 4-Cylinder In-Line 4-Cylinder
Engine Block/Cylinder Head Aluminum-Alloy Aluminum-Alloy
Displacement (cc) 1497 1497
Horsepower @ rpm (SAE net, Rev 8/04) 109 @ 5800 109 @ 5800
Torque (lb.-ft. @ rpm) 105 @ 4800 105 @ 4800
Redline (rpm) 6300 6300
Bore and Stroke (mm) 73.0 x 89.4 73.0 x 89.4
Compression Ratio 10.4:1 10.4:1
Valvetrain 16-Valve SOHC VTEC (R) 16-Valve SOHC VTEC (R)
Multi-Point Fuel Injection x x
Drive-by-Wire Throttle System (TM) x x
Front-Wheel Drive x x
CARB Emissions Rating LEV-2 LEV-2
Direct Ignition System with Immobilizer x x
100,000-Miles-or-More Tune-Up Interval* x x
Does not apply to fluid and filter changes. Exact mileage is determined by actual driving conditions. Please see your owner's manual for more details.
Transmissions
5-Speed Manual Transmission x x
Gear Ratios:
1st: 3.462 x x
2nd:1.870 x x
3rd: 1.321 x
x
4th: 0.970 x x
5th: 0.757 x x
Reverse: 3.231 x x
Final Drive: 4.294 x x
5-Speed Automatic Transmission (available) x x
Gear Ratios:
1st: 2.995
x x
2nd: 1.678
x x
3rd: 1.066
x x
4th: 0.756
x x
5th: 0.550
x x
Reverse: 1.956
x x
Final Drive: 4.562
x x
Body/Suspension/Chassis
Unit-Body Construction x x
MacPherson Strut Front Suspension x x
Torsion-Beam Rear Suspension x x
Stabilizer Bar (mm., front) 21.0 21.0
Electric Power-Assisted Rack-and-Pinion Steering (EPS) x x
Steering Wheel Turns, Lock-to-Lock 2.41 2.41
Steering Ratio 12.8 12.8
Turning Diameter, Curb-to-Curb (ft.) 35.6 35.6
Power-Assisted Ventilated Front Disc/Rear Drum Brakes (in.) 10.3/ 7.9 10.3/ 7.9
Wheels 14" with Full Covers 15" Alloy
All-Season Tires P175/ 65 R14 81S P195/ 55 R15 84H
Compact Spare Tire x x
Interior Measurements
Headroom (in., front/rear) 40.6 / 38.6 40.6 / 38.6
Legroom (in., front/rear) 41.9 / 33.7 41.9 / 33.7
Shoulder Room (in., front/rear) 52.8 / 50.6 52.8 / 50.6
Hiproom (in., front/rear) 51.2 / 51.0 51.2 / 51.0
Cargo Volume (cu. ft., seat up/down) 21.3 / TBD 21.3 / TBD
Passenger Volume (cu. ft.) 90.1 90.1
Seating Capacity 5 5
Exterior Measurements
Wheelbase (in.) 96.5 96.5
Length (in.) 157.4 157.4
Height (in.) 60 60
Width (in.) 66.2 66.2
Track (in., front/rear) 57.3 / 57.1 57.3 / 57.1
Curb Weight (lbs. MT/AT) 2432 / 2514 2471/ 2551
Weight Distribution (%, front/rear, MT) 61.8 / 38.2 61.6/ 38.4
Weight Distribution (%, front/rear, AT) 63.3 / 36.7 63.2/ 36.8
EPA Mileage Estimates*/ Capacities
5-Speed Manual (City/Highway) 33 / 38 33 / 38
5-Speed Automatic (City/Highway) 31 / 38 31 / 38
Crankcase (qt.) 4.4 4.4
Coolant System (gal.) 1.4 1.4
Fuel (gal.) 10.83 10.83
Required Fuel Regular Unleaded Regular Unleaded
* Based on 2007 EPA mileage estimates. Use for comparison purposes only. Actual mileage may vary

Yeah, totally my effort.

[krndanic307]

This car can't be compared to a scion or matrix... It is a nice car... I've driven it in ARGENTINA(my hometown) My brothers GF has it... I'll say go for it... But 15K for that car is a lil over price...

[r3amir]

I am a big fan of Honda/Acuras too and they are great cars and reliable too. I am sure it will be reliable. I loved the Integra GSR, I think the closest car to Integra is Civic Si with 200HP and about the same size as Integra.

I say go for Civic Si

I like the design of Civic Si better than the fit.