[carve29]

Originally Posted by carve29

They also announced that turn by turn directions will be available with iOS6. This means that I really don't need a nav system. What do some of you techies that understand all of this think?

Maybe the "nav system" isn't really called that any more in the future and it's really just a system that allows for drivers to integrate their smart phones. Of course, that still requires a screen. The manufacturers still get to sell a high margin option In the car so they are happy and the consumer is happy.

[Mr. ///M3 RD]

Originally Posted by Tag

I see where you're coming from but completely disagree with you, guess it's the dark side in me . Customers should not be beta users. If you're going to advertise a product and put it out on the market it should work and not be glitchy. Sure, everything has minor issues that arise here and there but Apple has dropped the ball quite a bit in the past couple of years yet it seems like everyone gives them a pass. Sorry if I ruined anyone's day with the truth.

You did not ruin my day be asured of this my friend, it's just some of us see it in a different light.

Let me give you my train of thought ...



You agree that Henry Ford was an Innovator without his initiative and many others like him you and I would not be driving around in a nearly perfect car.



Look at this massive steam locumotive then read the very informative description below.



I took those three pictures just over a week ago in the Henry Ford Museum. So if you think about the first Model T and this Steam driven Locomotive that my friend is what I am trying to say, everything starts some place.

Have a super day

Cheers, Rolf-Dieter

[Soliditude]

The article doesn't mention having to have an iPhone for Siri to be integrated into the car--that's the whole point! Not all BMW drivers necessarily own Apple products, and that's why Siri will be independently integrated into the car itself rather than you having to have a phone for it. This shouldn't be hard to do, really. I don't see why it would be "glitchy," because more so than not, it'll be better than any other voice recognition in cars currently available.

[CanadianDriver]

In today's WWDC, it was clear that Apple is working closely with BMW and select car manufacturers to make apps a staple of connected driving. I look forward to a more useful, but less distracting, integration between Apple and BMW.


BMW leading the charge:


Other Makes:


For folks without Navi, built-in turn-by-turn navigation, with integrated Siri and anonymous, real-time, crow-sourced traffic:

[Soliditude]

Originally Posted by Legitimate

Knowing BMW, this feature isn't an update and will require you to buy a newer model. Ugh.

So true, lol.

[Jason]

Originally Posted by Soliditude

The article doesn't mention having to have an iPhone for Siri to be integrated into the car--that's the whole point! Not all BMW drivers necessarily own Apple products, and that's why Siri will be independently integrated into the car itself rather than you having to have a phone for it.

You can be sure that having an iPhone will be a requirement for using Siri in a BMW. It's not mentioned in our article because it's clearly assumed.

[Reckamech]

Originally Posted by kyleb350

You still can't make me buy an iPhone, BMW!

+1

[e46e92love]

Originally Posted by southlight

LMAO!


Apple doesn't do super glitchy so I'm sure they've found a way.


Best regards,
south

12-months ago I would have agreed with you, but all of my apple devices are not happy with IOS5....a bunch of them now like to freeze, burp, lag and do a whole bunch of other things I had left behind years ago with my old PCs and windows based hardware....

Cheers,
e46e92

[jphughan]

Originally Posted by Soliditude

The article doesn't mention having to have an iPhone for Siri to be integrated into the car--that's the whole point! Not all BMW drivers necessarily own Apple products, and that's why Siri will be independently integrated into the car itself rather than you having to have a phone for it. This shouldn't be hard to do, really. I don't see why it would be "glitchy," because more so than not, it'll be better than any other voice recognition in cars currently available.

, or perhaps,

Originally Posted by Jason

You can be sure that having an iPhone will be a requirement for using Siri in a BMW. It's not mentioned in our article because it's clearly assumed.

[shoptb]

It's still going to be a while before this integration is complete, but maybe in 3 years, there won't be an iDrive as much as a dock for the iPad. If access to the automotive protocols are shared as openly as the apps themselves, then this could get really interesting.

[jphughan]

Originally Posted by carve29

They also announced that turn by turn directions will be available with iOS6. This means that I really don't need a nav system. What do some of you techies that understand all of this think?

I think it's promising, and having turn-by-turn show up even on the lock screen is genius. But then again, I vastly prefer the more integrated look of my iDrive setup (not to mention the much larger display) to having some sort of cradle mount for my phone and charger cable snaking around the dashboard or paying for some sort of hardwire setup.

This definitely wouldn't make me think twice about springing for iDrive, though; I don't even use the navigation feature very much, but I still appreciate having iDrive for the much better entertainment and Bluetooth experience. The easy access it gives to the car's configurable options, service intervals, any fault errors, etc are just a bonus.

[Teemo Panda]

Siri, Get us out of traffic by making the car Fly

[bringonthenite]

Nice post!

[thatsagoodpoint]

So will this mean full bluetooth integration?

[SirLance99]

I DON'T WANT Siri to be in my next BMW or Mercedes

This really is not anything against Apple or Siri. I don't and will not buy their products for personal reasons. Apple is successful in their own right, but why when I buy my next BMW or Mercedes, should I be subjected to a Siri button on my wheel which I'll never use?

I buy a new BMW or Mercedes because it fits me and who I am. Apple, not so much.

The idea is great don't get me wrong. Although, I don't want a button dedicated to Siri on my wheel of my new car reminding me of Apple or Siri.

If they are able to make that said button universal with other well known apps, I would change my stance a little bit more.

[SirLance99]

Originally Posted by JA///MES

Nothing is truly flawless, Apple is no exception but it is way better than having to integrate a crappy Android device to your car.

Excuse me my friend, but there are a few Android phones out there that are comparable or better than the iPhone ex: Samsung Galaxy S3(Won best smartphone of the year) and the new Galaxy S3 come to mind. ALL of the new features brought to the iPhone today have been on Android for years.

[jphughan]

Originally Posted by SirLance99

I DON'T WANT Siri to be in my next BMW or Mercedes

This really is not anything against Apple or Siri. I don't and will not buy their products for personal reasons. Apple is successful in their own right, but why when I buy my next BMW or Mercedes, should I be subjected to a Siri button on my wheel which I'll never use?

I buy a new BMW or Mercedes because it fits me and who I am. Apple, not so much.

The idea is great don't get me wrong. Although, I don't want a button dedicated to Siri on my wheel of my new car reminding me of Apple or Siri.

If they are able to make that said button universal with other well known apps, I would change my stance a little bit more.

Well thus far it looks like they'll be repurposing/expanding the existing voice control button to incorporate Siri functionality, so you shouldn't have a dedicated button. But honestly, lots of cars have buttons that some or even most owners never use; it's not as if the unused buttons are hurting the owners in some way. In fact BMW included the iPod Y-cable in all pre-Combox cars equipped with a USB port exclusively for Apple devices, though granted that was easily removed.

No one's saying you have to use every feature, but if there's a mutually beneficial opportunity for two manufacturers to collaborate on an integrated offering to the betterment of both, don't be surprised if they take said opportunity -- even if not everyone who uses one product will use the other. It goes the other way, too; Apple developed the iPod Out function, which to my knowledge has ONLY been leveraged in BMWs so far, and even then only BMWs with the new Apps feature.

[GuhBookGi]

Originally Posted by SirLance99

Excuse me my friend, but there are a few Android phones out there that are comparable or better than the iPhone ex: Samsung Galaxy S3(Won best smartphone of the year) and the new Galaxy S3 come to mind. ALL of the new features brought to the iPhone today have been on Android for years.

The perennial Android vs iOS debate....

[kiloil]

This is to comply (at least in US) to the no more than 6 click rule and distractions on dashboards.

[tonmonde]

Originally Posted by SirLance99

I DON'T WANT Siri to be in my next BMW or Mercedes

This really is not anything against Apple or Siri. I don't and will not buy their products for personal reasons. Apple is successful in their own right, but why when I buy my next BMW or Mercedes, should I be subjected to a Siri button on my wheel which I'll never use?

Done. Just don't check the ZSIRI $250 option next time you order

[Singletrack]

Originally Posted by Tag

I see where you're coming from but completely disagree with you, guess it's the dark side in me . Customers should not be beta users. If you're going to advertise a product and put it out on the market it should work and not be glitchy. Sure, everything has minor issues that arise here and there but Apple has dropped the ball quite a bit in the past couple of years yet it seems like everyone gives them a pass. Sorry if I ruined anyone's day with the truth.

LOL.

You must have never worked for a hardware/software company if you think Apple has a lot of glitches. You sounds like a power-user that goes nuts when advanced features don't work properly.

Back on topic - I think it's a cool feature; although I am somewhat surprised that BMW is willing to commit to a roadmap that is so tied to a specific company's technology; even if that company is currently leading the market.

Also, on a somewhat unrelated note; I don't personally like a million buttons on the steering wheel.

[doug_999]

This is just another sad reminder that they have moved the volume and phone controls to the WRONG side of the steering wheel on newer models.