[skyline408]

Tire technology has come a long way.

I remember thinking in the mid 90s with the Dunlop SP8000s, that tires can't possibly get better than this!

[eleven11]

Thanks for the update, OP.

On a related note, does anyone have an opinion about the "Noise Reduction Technology" option for the PS4S? They're about $30/tire extra. I'm all about extra noise reduction, but consider it might be gimmicky. Thanks.

[tranquility]

Originally Posted by NotSharocks

Michelin is about as good at naming their tires as BMW is at naming their vehicles.

I don't follow tire news but if that holds any water, Michelin has some awful nomenclature going on haha. Audi ftw here.

You guys definitely drive more aggressively than me, I was literally burning rubber/$$$ all those years wearing PSS when I really didn't need that extra grip. I'm happy w my Indy500s and my wallet is too haha.

[Lucky1]

Originally Posted by tranquility

I don't follow tire news but if that holds any water, Michelin has some awful nomenclature going on haha. Audi ftw here.

You guys definitely drive more aggressively than me, I was literally burning rubber/$$$ all those years wearing PSS when I really didn't need that extra grip. I'm happy w my Indy500s and my wallet is too haha.

How do they compare noise, comfort, tire wear and grip (dry and wet) wise?

Been thinking of switching to using them on non-M cars; like you starting to dislike burning money on tires if not necessary. Though I have to admit I've loved every Michelin tire I've ever owned both summer and winter.

[G30M]

Originally Posted by eleven11

Thanks for the update, OP.

On a related note, does anyone have an opinion about the "Noise Reduction Technology" option for the PS4S? They're about $30/tire extra. I'm all about extra noise reduction, but consider it might be gimmicky. Thanks.

is that glued on foam inside the tire? it works to some extent.

[///MPhatic]

Originally Posted by skyline408

Tire technology has come a long way.

It has, and then again, hasn't. Evidenced by the fact that the original PSS, which came out in 2011, is still very relevant. Longer lasting, better wet performance while maintaining or exceeding the dry performance, and being quieter has taken a LOT of massive tech to achieve.

I hope the PS5S is exactly like the PS4S just with better front end bite. Oh, and I hope it's made in my sizes.

[tranquility]

Originally Posted by Lucky1

How do they compare noise, comfort, tire wear and grip (dry and wet) wise?

Been thinking of switching to using them on non-M cars; like you starting to dislike burning money on tires if not necessary. Though I have to admit I've loved every Michelin tire I've ever owned both summer and winter.

The main thing for me is the tire wear seems to be better w the Indys.
The PSS seems to be gone too fast, it's kinda insane how I used them all this time until recently. I'm not too concerned about noise or comfort but I don't notice any real difference for me. The grip has been great dry and wet. Like I said, probably don't push my car as much as many of you guys but for my use, I was just literally burning $$$/rubber using PSS, i.e. both are pretty much the same for me except the PSSs are almost 2x more expensive *and* I needed to change them more often since they wear faster.

[M5 London]

Originally Posted by ATLIEN

True. I’ve since upgraded to the PS5 on my M3 but have the AS4+ on my 335 and they are a great all around tire that replaced the AS3+. Only wish is for a more aggressive tread design and side wall but oh well.

You mean you have downgraded to the PS5...from a PSS.

[ATLIEN]

Originally Posted by M5 London

You mean you have downgraded to the PS5...from a PSS.

Perhaps ha ha.

[M5 London]

This is how I see Michelin's hierarchy in terms of dry grip excluding their Cup offerings:

PSS5>PS4S>PSS>PS2>PS>PS5>PS4>PS3

[RACE M3]

Originally Posted by g21

is that glued on foam inside the tire? it works to some extent.

I’ve had a few teslas that all have had it. The foam disconnects under severe heat on both my cars. My wife’s car has set a world record for tire mileage; I didn’t need to have her foam removed. What a waste of 3.4 0-60. Back to bottom barrel models she goes lol

[chris719]

Originally Posted by M5 London

This is how I see Michelin's hierarchy in terms of dry grip excluding their Cup offerings:

PSS5>PS4S>PSS>PS2>PS>PS5>PS4>PS3

I would guess that the standard PS5, 4 , 3 etc. outperform the 20+ year old PS2 and PS tires, even in the dry.

[M5 London]

Originally Posted by chris719

I would guess that the standard PS5, 4 , 3 etc. outperform the 20+ year old PS2 and PS tires, even in the dry.

Possibly but, I wouldn't run a PS5 on my 600hp 996 Turbo over my current newly supplied PS2 N Rated Porsche OEM tyre. Its like a G80 320 Diesel vs an E46 M3 CS, for example (one is much more modern than the other, but....). PS5 is not a UUHP road tyre, it's a tier below a UUHP tyre, in my opinion from my understanding of the subject. I can however agree that a PS4S would be better than a PSS or PS2 on a very high performance car, in terms of absolute dry grip, if the stock sizes were available.