[Rubensss]

Originally Posted by ModernAngel

Dunno the full offset allowance but for reference I just had a custom set of Vossen HF-5s put on yesterday. Fit perfectly, IMO.

Front
21x9.5”
Hub: 66.56
Offset: 20

Rear
21x10.5”
Hub: 66.56
Offset: 35

Tires are the same Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4s PhantomOpera got. 265/40ZR21 front and 295/35ZR21 rear.

No rubbing, no issues whatsoever.

Why not 275/35 R21 and 255/45/21?

[PhantomOpera]

Originally Posted by Rubensss

Why not 275/35 R21 and 255/45/21?

Because it would look like this 0=o

[ModernAngel]

Originally Posted by Rubensss

Why not 275/35 R21 and 255/45/21?

Didn't want to risk messing with xDrive so tried to keep the tire specs as close to standard (21") BMW specs as possible. You have to set the tire settings in iDrive after making changes. I just entered that I had the 21" OEM tires and that worked even though they're slightly less wide than what I put on.

[Ravenous666]

Originally Posted by Rubensss

Why not 275/35 R21 and 255/45/21?

OEM is 255 front and 285 rear

[Rubensss]

Originally Posted by ModernAngel

Didn't want to risk messing with xDrive so tried to keep the tire specs as close to standard (21") BMW specs as possible. You have to set the tire settings in iDrive after making changes. I just entered that I had the 21" OEM tires and that worked even though they're slightly less wide than what I put on.

Thanks for the clarification, I am waiting for an M50 and I was planning to mount PIRELLI PZERO WINTER 285/35 R21 105H XL  (*)  FR  3PMSF and 255/40/21, but you have discovered these Michelin all season tires and I am full of doubts.

[PhantomOpera]

Originally Posted by Rubensss

Thanks for the clarification, I am waiting for an M50 and I was planning to mount PIRELLI PZERO WINTER 285/35 R21 105H XL  (*)  FR  3PMSF and 255/40/21, but you have discovered these Michelin all season tires and I am full of doubts.

What is to doubt about the Michelin? Check out tyre reviews on YouTube. The Michelin is the best performing all around tire even has decent snow traction.

[Rubensss]

Originally Posted by PhantomOpera

What is to doubt about the Michelin? Check out tyre reviews on YouTube. The Michelin is the best performing all around tire even has decent snow traction.

Well, first of all, I don't like to mount tyres wider than the already wide original 21” ones; secondly, I don't like to lose the * of the tyres approved by BMW; and finally, I think that winter tyres will always be better for winter and summer tyres for the rest of the year, even though these Michelin all-season tyres make them very good in global terms.

[PhantomOpera]

Originally Posted by Rubensss

Well, first of all, I don't like to mount tyres wider than the already wide original 21” ones; secondly, I don't like to lose the * of the tyres approved by BMW; and finally, I think that winter tyres will always be better for winter and summer tyres for the rest of the year, even though these Michelin all-season tyres make them very good in global terms.

“Wider” huh. We are talking 10milimeters wider 255 to 265 and 285 to 295 this is laughable. You need all your tires approved by BMW with their star ⭐️ of approval? I’m capable of independent thought and research and not controlled by the matrix.

[MidnightLight]

Not sure if any more data points are helpful. But for what it's worth, I picked up my G45 M50 today and got Pirelli P Zero all seasons with my 20" 906M rims.

[Rubensss]

Originally Posted by PhantomOpera

“Wider” huh. We are talking 10milimeters wider 255 to 265 and 285 to 295 this is laughable. You need all your tires approved by BMW with their star ⭐️ of approval? I’m capable of independent thought and research and not controlled by the matrix.

PhantomOpera,
Tell us how it went with the tire change?

[PhantomOpera]

Originally Posted by Rubensss

PhantomOpera,
Tell us how it went with the tire change?

It went smooth. Didn’t go to the dealership either 😂

[Rubensss]

Originally Posted by PhantomOpera

What is to doubt about the Michelin? Check out tyre reviews on YouTube. The Michelin is the best performing all around tire even has decent snow traction.

It seems that the Michelin Pilor Sport All Season are not for me; after much research, these tyres do not replace winter tyres in Spain and Europe when the use of chains is mandatory; the M+S symbol is not sufficient and the 3PMSF is necessary, which these tyres do not have.

[Ravenous666]

Originally Posted by Rubensss

It seems that the Michelin Pilor Sport All Season are not for me; after much research, these tyres do not replace winter tyres in Spain and Europe when the use of chains is mandatory; the M+S symbol is not sufficient and the 3PMSF is necessary, which these tyres do not have.

I don't know for Spain, but in Germany BMW does not deliver All Sesons on the cars. It's only dedicated Summer tires and you have to order seperate Winter tires.

These are the tires BMW lists for Europe

[OCDad]

Dealer just got the car in as I was there to evaluate my trade in. Was able to go see it, but of course it didn't go through prep yet. I have the 21 inch jet black matte wheels and to my surprise it was wearing Pirelli P Zero's..I think everyone one else with 21s got the Goodyear F1s. I doubt it will make much of a difference, but thought I share as an additional data point.

And yes, she is real purty in Tanzanite

[BokTroy]

Originally Posted by OCDad

Dealer just got the car in as I was there to evaluate my trade in. Was able to go see it, but of course it didn't go through prep yet. I have the 21 inch jet black matte wheels and to my surprise it was wearing Pirelli P Zero's..I think everyone one else with 21s got the Goodyear F1s. I doubt it will make much of a difference, but thought I share as an additional data point.

And yes, she is real purty in Tanzanite

I assume P Zero star spec UHP summer?

[OCDad]

Originally Posted by BokTroy

I assume P Zero star spec UHP summer?

Correct

[TWX5]

Southern California
21" 1037M w/Pirelli P Zero