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05-23-2007, 01:47 PM | #46 |
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For those still confused, if you are wanting the fastest acceleration start from a standstill, make sure you hit the button and DTC light is on.
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lol but am I right or wrong that when you push that button you can get more tire spin without the car interfering. That I know is right because I am going to show you it in a video tonight
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lol but am I right or wrong that when you push that button you can get more tire spin without the car interfering. That I know is right because I am going to show you it in a video tonight
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In slippery conditions, DTC mode (pressing the button briefly) lets the wheel have more slippage so that the car can actually plow its way through instead of having DSC cutting the power and therefore the car sitting there not moving at all. The advantage of DTC mode in this condition is that you still have some directional intervention by applying individual brakes when needed as opposed to none at all when early E46 had to turn DSC fully off in situations like this. So now, the E90's get a mode where you can use in slippery conditions so that the car can move and also benefit from stability control as you need it the most under these conditions to drive safely. This is the main marketed usage of DTC by BMW. However, the DTC mode also has another use. It's used for spirited driving where it will intervene later if turned on. It will also allow the car to accelerate faster by allowing more wheelspin and by applying brakes to the slipping wheel. On the other argument, you are definitely wrong about DTC being off when pressed briefly. As others have said, it is turned on and is a version of DSC which allows the functions to be carried out as stated above. |
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Let me redirect those who haven't seen this before or have the patience to read through the repetitive argument on the confusion between DTC and DSC.
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45216 (13 pages long!) |
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3) Indeed, Audi puts those engines way too far forward, but I don't think the understeer is anywhere near as pronounced as you claim. Ahead of the front axle iirc. Remember, the RS4 easily hands an e46 M3 it's head on a platter, but that's entirely due to power. Quote:
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werd it's alla bout the red rs4s man, they have extra 100lb/ft
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Lol Nismo...if what I was trying to get across was wrong then I would pay you 100 in a heartbeat...no 100 is not a lot when you make what I make pal...
My whole philosophy whether I said it turns on or off was that HITTING THAT button will increase ability for more traction by letting the wheels spin freely. This is correct information whether you want to call it turning DTC on or off...To me its taking traction off because the car interferes less...that is always the way I thought...no reason to change now haha How about we race for 100
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true, a tuned 335i could be faster than the E92 M3, but you would rather have the M3...
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Why would I be pissed? I don't own an RS4
Procede just adds more cheap power but does nothing to address what the 335i is lacking in the handling department |
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.... how can u guys say the RS4 COSTS so much MORE than the 335 but the 335 w/ mods is faster and be all cocky about it. and then when someone has a Subaru or S2000 with mods that is so much faster and handle's better than a 335 and costs way less, you guys scream "japanese sucks" germn 4lyfe rofl. what dumb comments. basically everyone in the world should be buying MODDED 3 SERIES or theyre dumb right?! jesus the stupidity....
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2007 Audi RS4, handing = .90g skid pad 2007 BMW 335i, handing = .88g skid pad http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...9/pageId=98163 http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=117669
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the difference between an S2K and a 335i is much much bigger than the difference between the RS4 and the 335i... when you buy a german car, you buy it for more than just performance, and it's great to see a car like the 335i having such power with an easy modification... but if you mod a subaru, you still have only power...
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tooo many badges to be a "badge whore" dont u think?? and tell me that im wrong, but german cars has soo much more than performance, unlike some japanese cars...
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So if u proceded guys got whooped by a modded evo which costs less than your 335, what would your reaction be?
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335 maybe fast which even i am impressed with but i still want to race a 335 procede before i believe these figures of being 2 or 3 car lengths ahead because M5's have a hard time pulling on me at all so im not sure how the 335 just blows me out according to some of these posts. But anyways there is no question id jump on an RS4 even if the 335 had 1000hp |
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