[TXGrey]

Originally Posted by R N M

The sad part is that there really is no competition now for M3.
Current S4 and C63 are a joke, Alfa Giulia hype died down, ISF no longer exists.
CT4 is not attractive.
Too bad Porsche doesn’t offer anything in the segment.

Have said this for almost 10 years… I really wish Porsche would do something in this segment. I’d buy for sure….

[blackpear]

Originally Posted by avi66

It’s a personal choice, so what does it matter how other people view it ?

Beige would go great down the nursing home, and whilst BMW used it at launch, it seems to have gone with Fire Red for review cars.

As you say, colour is a completely personal choice, how boring if we all liked the same. There is no right and wrong on this.

Yet you then proceed to disparage the choice of Dune Grey by descibing it as a care home colour.

[Sportstick]

Originally Posted by JoeyO

The OP got the Dune Grey color. I really like that color. I like it with the red colored brakes. Maybe I like it because they’re not many vehicles on the road with that color. Saab used to make a color similar to it.

But I’ve heard that some people view the color as a boring color for “old farts.” Some people say it’s a color for Buicks and Lexuses. Some people say it is not sporty. What’s the consensus here? If I don’t order Dune Grey, then my second choice is Alpine White.

I believe the consensus would be to get whichever one pleases your eyes the most. All other input is worth what you paid for it.

[avi66]

Originally Posted by blackpear

As you say, colour is a completely personal choice, how boring if we all liked the same. There is no right and wrong on this.

Yet you then proceed to disparage the choice of Dune Grey by descibing it as a care home colour.

I’m still allowed an opinion, just as you are.

I agree it would be boring, but some colours are just that. Let’s face it, BMW is hardly known for its X3 colour palette, and I wished BMW would option Skyscraper on an M50, rather than limiting it to the 30.

I suspect a lot of people jumped on Dune simply because it was a new colour, and was used by BMW at M50 launch. However, Vegas/Fire red seems to be the colour BMW is now favouring for the M50 review cars.

[blackpear]

Originally Posted by avi66

I’m still allowed an option, just as you are.

Agreed but …
Opinions are “I like fire red or I don’t like Dune Grey”.
You expressed Criticism which is totally different “Dune Grey will go down well at the care home”.

[avi66]

Originally Posted by blackpear

Agreed but …
Opinions are “I like fire red or I don’t like Dune Grey”.
You expressed Criticism which is totally different “Dune Grey will go down well at the care home”.

Which it will lol �� I really don’t like it having seen it in the flesh.

That doesn’t stop you loving it though.

[wartnig]

Originally Posted by avi66

Which it will lol 😂 I really don’t like it having seen it in the flesh.

That doesn’t stop you loving it though.

I don’t think many residents of the care home near me will be ordering a dune grey x3.. 😂

[avi66]

Originally Posted by wartnig

I don’t think many residents of the care home near me will be ordering a dune grey x3.. 😂

They probably went with Fire red

[wartnig]

Originally Posted by avi66

They probably went with Fire red

😂

[Ramos]

Car is really nice! But no way it’s worth $1k/month lease, when you can lease an IX for $699 also with $6K down, and that’s without even tying to get a better deal.

Heck I’d much rather have a Polestar 3 also around the $700 lease mark.

When the heck did $1k leases become normal on non M cars… maybe OP just had to pay the “first on my block” tax

[TheBingoBalls]

Originally Posted by Ramos

Car is really nice! But no way it’s worth $1k/month lease, when you can lease an IX for $699 also with $6K down, and that’s without even tying to get a better deal.

Heck I’d much rather have a Polestar 3 also around the $700 lease mark.

When the heck did $1k leases become normal on non M cars… maybe OP just had to pay the “first on my block” tax

Since COVID and I don't see it going back to pre-COVID. Everything is about $200/month more expense or more now. Consider inflation, residuals and interest rates, everything is just more expensive. M3/M4's could be had anywhere from $1,200 - $1,500/month prior to COVID depending on how you build, now you're paying around $1,900/month. Interested in a C 63 S E Performance? $2,200/month.

We're back in a time where these cars can be afforded by those who are well off financially and not the average joe being able to afford a BMW because of either high residual, low interest, OEM support or all of the above.

[Bigface]

Check out leasehacker forum or a broker. Ix 50 can be done easily 600-700 with 0 down payment. People need to be educated how lease payments calculated and stop overpaying dealers. Never put any down payment on a lease!
X3 m40i was around 5-600 with 0 down or even lower and I expect m50 would be something similar. Of course dealer will charge you a premium if you want the car at launch, but by the end of this year we will know better.

[Ramos]

Originally Posted by TheBingoBalls

Since COVID and I don't see it going back to pre-COVID. Everything is about $200/month more expense or more now. Consider inflation, residuals and interest rates, everything is just more expensive. M3/M4's could be had anywhere from $1,200 - $1,500/month prior to COVID depending on how you build, now you're paying around $1,900/month. Interested in a C 63 S E Performance? $2,200/month.

We're back in a time where these cars can be afforded by those who are well off financially and not the average joe being able to afford a BMW because of either high residual, low interest, OEM support or all of the above.

I think you just need to learn how to shop!
You can buy a $100k M3 with zero down and finance over 72 for much less than what you’re claiming a lease costs!

After 3 years, you can sell it for $70k
Whereas if you lease for $2k per month you’d be out $72k after 3 years.

The numbers you list make zero sense, again unless you’re being shafted

[JoeyO]

Originally Posted by blackpear

As you say, colour is a completely personal choice, how boring if we all liked the same. There is no right and wrong on this.

Yet you then proceed to disparage the choice of Dune Grey by descibing it as a care home colour.

Agreed. Avi66 goes on my sh1t list. The guy first says color doesn’t matter. But then goes on to insult others, so apparently it does matter. That’s called speaking out both sides of your mouth.

[avi66]

Originally Posted by JoeyO

Agreed. Avi66 goes on my sh1t list. The guy first says color doesn’t matter. But then goes on to insult others, so apparently it does matter. That’s called speaking out both sides of your mouth.

What does it matter that I think a colour is dreadful, it’s not my choice, but it’s hardly insulting others. It’s personal choice, hence it shouldn’t matter to the chooser what others think.

It’s like saying the G45 interior door handles are crap and criticising the poor material because I don’t like it, and you claim I’m insulting others.

[TheBingoBalls]

Originally Posted by Ramos

I think you just need to learn how to shop!
You can buy a $100k M3 with zero down and finance over 72 for much less than what you’re claiming a lease costs!

After 3 years, you can sell it for $70k
Whereas if you lease for $2k per month you’d be out $72k after 3 years.

The numbers you list make zero sense, again unless you’re being shafted

I’m just strictly taking about single leases without financing whatever years and trying to sell and I’m talking in CAD which is a lot more expensive than the U.S. but relative terms, everyone is paying more than what we were all accustomed to pre-COVID.

The average consumer does not want to deal with financing and then having to worry about privately selling or “trading” it in at a dealer and deal with the games of trade-in values.

I don’t need to learn to shop, I work within a dealer group and get cars at cost so I know what the minimum monthly payment one can expect with no down payment and at cost/MSRP. Buying cars today is expensive whether it’s a lease or finance - no one wants to deal with $1,000+ monthly payments.

[BMWbiker]

Originally Posted by JoeyO

The OP got the Dune Grey color. I really like that color. I like it with the red colored brakes. Maybe I like it because they’re not many vehicles on the road with that color. Saab used to make a color similar to it.

But I’ve heard that some people view the color as a boring color for “old farts.” Some people say it’s a color for Buicks and Lexuses. Some people say it is not sporty. What’s the consensus here? If I don’t order Dune Grey, then my second choice is Alpine White.

I agree with others that it’s really up to you.

But since you asked for opinions, here’s mine.

I’m not a fan of gray paint on a car. It just doesn’t do much for me.

That said, if the discount is enough, I can easily learn to love gray. :-) Plus, it could be considered a stealthy color, if that’s important to you.

I prefer metallic gray to nonmetallic.

I like white.

[PhantomOpera]

Originally Posted by Ramos

Car is really nice! But no way it’s worth $1k/month lease, when you can lease an IX for $699 also with $6K down, and that’s without even tying to get a better deal.

Heck I’d much rather have a Polestar 3 also around the $700 lease mark.

When the heck did $1k leases become normal on non M cars… maybe OP just had to pay the “first on my block” tax

That’s exactly why I had to pay. Ordered the car the day it released on the website. Collected the car on launch date. People giving me the “what the hell is that” look at stop lights 🚦

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by avi66

I’m still allowed an opinion, just as you are.

I agree it would be boring, but some colours are just that. Let’s face it, BMW is hardly known for its X3 colour palette, and I wished BMW would option Skyscraper on an M50, rather than limiting it to the 30.

I suspect a lot of people jumped on Dune simply because it was a new colour, and was used by BMW at M50 launch. However, Vegas/Fire red seems to be the colour BMW is now favouring for the M50 review cars.

Vegas Red is actually quite good. I was just looking at one in person earlier today

[Ramos]

Originally Posted by PhantomOpera

That’s exactly why I had to pay. Ordered the car the day it released on the website. Collected the car on launch date. People giving me the “what the hell is that” look at stop lights 🚦

Congrats! It just won’t feel special after 6 months and you’ll be stuck with your insanely exaggerated lease payment for 3 years.

[galactic-world]

I'm amazed at the snarky and overall mean tone through much of the G45 X3 sub. But I am also disappointed that the new X3's don't inspire me to want to buy one -- I'm coming off a loaded 2018 G01 and I found a lot to like with that car.

[FrozenGT]

Both cars have B58 our 2022 X3 M40 pops when you can hear the whistles from the turbo, the differences are the B58 was updated for the new generation X3.

We were thinking about trading in and getting one loaded out I think right around $73K but we decided no and we’re gonna wait for the X5 new class.