[auf Deutsch]

Waiting on a GTS/ACR vs Z06 comparo from any rag out there. Will this ever happen?

[CirrusSR22]

Originally Posted by auf Deutsch

Waiting on a GTS/ACR vs Z06 comparo from any rag out there. Will this ever happen?

Motor Trend just did a ACR, Z06 & GT3 RS test. Not published yet. Their social
media posts suggests the ACR broke even more records.

[dgp]

Originally Posted by CirrusSR22

Motor Trend just did a ACR, Z06 & GT3 RS test. Not published yet. Their social
media posts suggests the ACR broke even more records.

What track? Any ideas of laptimes?

[CirrusSR22]

Originally Posted by dgp

What track? Any ideas of laptimes?

Motor Trend was posting from both Leguna Seca and Auto Club Speedway.

Pics and tweets here:
@mt_loverman
@Chapter_34

[dgp]

Originally Posted by CirrusSR22

Motor Trend was posting from both Leguna Seca and Auto Club Speedway.

Pics and tweets here:
@mt_loverman
@Chapter_34

Gotta feeling the gt3 rs got spanked by acr and probably z06 as well...in other news porsche fanboys are still paying up 350k for a track car that isn't the quickest for the price

[MPerformance211]

Originally Posted by dgp

Gotta feeling the gt3 rs got spanked by acr and probably z06 as well...in other news porsche fanboys are still paying up 350k for a track car that isn't the quickest for the price

In before EfEightyM3 claims otherwise.....or claims that even if the Porsche got beat, it still "feels" like the best car ever made and by Flag Day of 2019, it will be selling for roughly $3.3MM.

[ASAP]

Originally Posted by dgp

Gotta feeling the gt3 rs got spanked by acr and probably z06 as well...in other news porsche fanboys are still paying up 350k for a track car that isn't the quickest for the price

More like $1million because the 918 is the only Porsche that is beating the Z06 and ACR, and btw it's not an ass kicking.

I understand people that can like Porsches but 2 points must be made clear-

1) they are overpriced
2) you aren't even close to getting the best performance in the class

If those 2 are accepted, then I can understand the want for a Porsche... Although, if those 2 are accepted, what then is the point of a Porsche? And that's the conundrum that in my opinion, Porsche falls into with every one of their cars. I would argue that the Macan is the only car that doesn't fall into such a stupid position because the Macan S is very attractively priced and can directly compete with something like say an X4 or the shitty Benz offering, and I would say its overall a better package.

[hellrotm]

Originally Posted by ASAP

Although, if those 2 are accepted, what then is the point of a Porsche? And that's the conundrum that in my opinion, Porsche falls into with every one of their cars.

Watch the new EVO car of the year video. It explains the question in bold quite well.

[ASAP]

Originally Posted by BlackJetE90

Watch the new EVO car of the year video. It explains the question in bold quite well.

If you're gonna argue feeling, then that's something that everyone car argue for every brand... I can say the same for BMW because it offers not only feeling but also a better street feeling due to the overall DD package. Others would say, the Vettes offer the most feeling because of the noises of the car and V8 engine emotion... but in the market realm as a whole that has 0 meaning. So, let's call it for what it is,a car for a specific person with a specific want for that car... and feels the price is justified. The GT4 may be an outstanding car but so little of it is made and allocations are so limited because Porsche understands that the market as a whole wouldn't accept a tiny car like that with 380hp car for close to 100K.

[dgp]

Originally Posted by BlackJetE90

Watch the new EVO car of the year video. It explains the question in bold quite well.

Driving feel is subjective

[ASAP]

Originally Posted by dgp

Driving feel is subjective

Exactly... except that could apply to anyone for any brand... so its not a point worth arguing.

[hellrotm]

Originally Posted by dgp

Driving feel is subjective

Yup

Originally Posted by ASAP

Exactly... except that could apply to anyone for any brand... so its not a point worth arguing.

You got it, so that answers your question earlier.

[Nitrousbird]

Originally Posted by auf Deutsch

Waiting on a GTS/ACR vs Z06 comparo from any rag out there. Will this ever happen?

Here's a shocker - the ACR starts at $40,000 more MSRP than the Z06.

I sure hope it would beat the Z06, which isn't nearly the one trick pony as the ACR. You can daily drive a Z06 comfortably - hard to say the same thing for the ACR. Z06 comes with a lot more amenities for the lower price as well.

[RM7]

Originally Posted by dgp

Gotta feeling the gt3 rs got spanked by acr and probably z06 as well...in other news porsche fanboys are still paying up 350k for a track car that isn't the quickest for the price

Limits of the rear engine chassis IMO. Even porsche knows for the highest performance they have to go to a mid-engine chassis. The more they want to keep the 911 rear engine and the more automobile technology evolves, the harder it is for them to keep it competitive.

[dgp]

Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes

Limits of the rear engine chassis IMO. Even porsche knows for the highest performance they have to go to a mid-engine chassis. The more they want to keep the 911 rear engine and the more automobile technology evolves, the harder it is for them to keep it competitive.

Porsche claims 7:20 at the ring for gt3 rs-there are a lot of faster cars at the ring and are significantly cheaper than 350k-Porsche isn't breaking any records there

[AW335TT]

MSRP on the RS starts from $175k, where is this 350k coming from?

[1MOREMOD]

I thought acr was even beating the 918?

[auf Deutsch]

Originally Posted by AW335TT

MSRP on the RS starts from $175k, where is this 350k coming from?

dealer rapage

[chillindrdude]

^this.


fuck PCNA. they know dealers are ghost posting allocations, flipping allocations, and playing all sorts of shady shit with pulling allocations/returning deposits.

i hope a repeat of 1993 comes around, but they go bankrupt.

most 911GT3 and GT3 RS are garage queens. barely seeing light of day, much less a track.

Go ACR!

[1MOREMOD]

Hmm I see a lot of them at the track.

[EfEightyM3]

Originally Posted by dgp

Gotta feeling the gt3 rs got spanked by acr and probably z06 as well...in other news porsche fanboys are still paying up 350k for a track car that isn't the quickest for the price

A GT3 RS is 180k NOT 350k. Can't control people marking up after the fact. That's simply just supply and demand.

Show me another car with 500 hp that runs 7:20 at the Ring? Most anything around that time will be 600-700 hp. A pagani zonda f club sport for by comparison runs 7:25. It's 2700 lbs and has 650 hp yet is slower.

[AW335TT]

Originally Posted by auf Deutsch

dealer rapage

Porsche priced the car at 175k, what anyone decides to pay for it is up to them.