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      07-11-2011, 10:01 PM   #1
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****top Gear Mclaren Mp4-12c Vs 458 Italia

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      07-11-2011, 10:40 PM   #2
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Very similar to fifth Gears review.. Im a little disappointed because I like my cars to be fun.

But thats one hell of a lap time!!
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      07-11-2011, 11:05 PM   #3
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Yet to hear or read a very positive review on this car.

Also it is shame it has to look the way it does.
MP4-12C loooks badass
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      07-12-2011, 12:17 AM   #4
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I would take the McLaren even if it cost more than the Ferrari.

458 looks like a frog, and it's not even as bad as their other overrated designs, the California, FF, and 612. 599 is the last good looking one left.
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      07-12-2011, 01:04 AM   #5
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McLaren does it again with another amazing car. It does help that they did test the car at the Top Gear test track tho lol!

Still, with all those reviews, my first pick at a super car will definitely be a Lambo :P
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458 is their best looking car in 20 years.

Pure sex on wheels.
I disagree. If you were talking about a 599 GTO that would be a different story The F430 Scuderia fixed the 'regular' 430's blandness. We shall see how the treatment applied to 458 turns out



In the big picture, it doesn't really matter; they are in a new Ferrari and I am in an E90. But it's fun to criticize
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      07-12-2011, 07:06 AM   #7
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I really don't understand how they got the quick laptime.
I've seen other tests with the Mac against the 458 and amongst other cars too (911GT2RS, SLS, Gallardo) and the Mac was not even close to the fastest car. Weird.
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Car Magazine test - Mac didn't even come close to the 458.
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^ true no other comparison shows this result, kinda disappointed as it seems to be a biased result. Ferrari FTMFW!!!
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I wouldn't mind watching Top Gear's 458 review with sound only - the noise it makes does nothing short of put the MP to shame. Actually... the exterior does as well.
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Still, with all those reviews, my first pick at a super car will definitely be a Lambo :P
Amen to that
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I really don't understand how they got the quick laptime.
I've seen other tests with the Mac against the 458 and amongst other cars too (911GT2RS, SLS, Gallardo) and the Mac was not even close to the fastest car. Weird.
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**************************car-videos-11...-Episode-8.htm
Car Magazine test - Mac didn't even come close to the 458.
**************************car-videos-11...er-Exotics.htm
Don't forget the test on EVO...http://www.evo.co.uk/videos/supercar...1_turbo_s.html

The ferarri had it beat there as well...Very biased comparison indeed....
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lol cool tags bro
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^ true no other comparison shows this result, kinda disappointed as it seems to be a biased result. Ferrari FTMFW!!!
No, thats because Ferrari was sending ringers to the magazines when they were testing the 458 against the MP4. If you compare the performance/weight of the 458's in the original tests made by those magazines to the more recent tests against the mp4, you will see that the 458 somehow lost alot of weight, had better brakes, and faster acceleration. kinda weird right??

Ferrari is notorious for this. Im glad to see they did not have a chance to send top gear a ringer. Thers a reason Ferrari doesnt like magazines to use customer cars for their tests.
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I think I would lean toward the McLaren in black with orange or green calipers and matching contrast stitching.
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Just a thought but Clarkson always seems to have a bit of a nationalist when it comes to cars, especially regarding his hometown British ones. After all, the segment did include a big factory tour and a bunch of other things that were provided by McLaren themselves. All I'm saying is that I wouldn't be surprised if this wasn't the most honest test (not to say that Ferrari is any better, obviously).
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Just a thought but Clarkson always seems to have a bit of a nationalist when it comes to cars, especially regarding his hometown British ones. After all, the segment did include a big factory tour and a bunch of other things that were provided by McLaren themselves. All I'm saying is that I wouldn't be surprised if this wasn't the most honest test (not to say that Ferrari is any better, obviously).
i really doubt that, because if it ever got out that they screw with the times, the show would really plummet. they have everything to lose, and really nothing to gain. look at how they bad mouth every other british car, i.e. rover and tvr.

but on the other side of the coin, mclaren couldve sent them a ringer as well
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