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What is up with BMW's and their drivers?
Yesterday, I was on the freeway and I was going along with the75mph pace but I was actually going a tad faster than the other cars. I wasn't on the fast/passing lane and the lanes on my left and my right were pretty empty. I also had a E60 535i in front of me (2 – 3 car lengths in front of me) who was still pulling from me.
A nice looking blue M-sport F30 started tailgating me. At first, I thought it was 335i M-sport who wanted to race but it was a 328i (because of the better looking stock grill). The 328 made an aggressive lane change. At this point, I downshifted from 7th to 6th then 5th. I was about to go down to 4th and be a prick and not let the 328i through. However, I looked at my passenger seat and my rear seat...I had my mom and my brother with me and controlled myself. The 328i had more than enough room to pass me safely. Instead, the lady in the 328i cut me off SOOOOOO CLOSE I had to brake hard and steer a little away from her to not get hit. She merged into my lane while only her front wheels were past my car's nose. The lady in the 328i, started tailgating the 535 in front of me and did the same thing except cut the 5er off. After the 5 series, she kept weaving in and out and zinging past other cars. The F30 is no tiny spring chicken like a Lotus Elise that you can swing around easily nor does it have a short butt like an E89 Z4...the F30 is a pig compared to those two car sizes, even my 1er is a pig compared to those two. Right now, I can even go so far as to say that her reflexes and skills in daily driving are superior to mine. Of course, that is assuming that she does this on a regular basis. People that cut others off doesn't require their victims to steer away AND brake HARD...it's usually one or the other. She's not the only prick I've encountered...there's too many of them but this is my most dangerous encounter. Now this brings me to my questions: why is it that a good fraction of the pricks on the road drive BMW's? Is it the people that pick BMW's or is it the BMW cars that make people drive the way they do? (I'd like to hear/read the community's take on my questions.) I think it's the car. BMW's perform very well and they feel GREAT to drive. Not to mention, BMW is known for making sporty cars and has an amazing racing heritage. People take these as part of their true driving skill and measurement. Similar to how teenagers think they're invincible. I'll admit, I feel like I'm a better driver in a BMW than I do in a family SUV but that still doesn't warrant driving like a maniac. Since most BMW's are a blast to drive, they just can't help themselves but keep satisfying their hunger for a driving fast. But there must be another factor to it...I think it's the BMW badge. Driving a BMW is enough to say you've stepped into the realm of success (materialistically). These drivers may possibly be flaunting their fancy cars. It may also be as simple as “my car is/I am badass” or “my car is fast”. Yes, the badge make the drivers' heads fill with hot air and show off...or worse, become condescending. I've seen an e92 335i drive on the right hand shoulder lane (the lane where people pull over) just to get through traffic. I am aware that there are also other cars that drive in such a fashion like Priuses. I am also not saying that all bimmer drivers = prick. I'm just wondering why is it that most douchey drivers drive a similar car to mine. P.S. Do note that I am not attacking this lady driver or anyone personally. Also, before you tell me to go and drive faster and speed up...why not try slowing down a little? |
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She, and the rest of the idiots like her, are more common in Virginia than any other type of driver. I guess this just falls in the, what geographic region do you live, column. For me, I probably wouldn't even pay her more than a second of notice as this is every day practice here. I can understand how someone from a more docile area might see it as a problem. I am not condoning her apparent lack of intelligence and overall driving skill, but I also do not think it has to do with the type of car that she drives. The biggest culprits where I am are usually mini vans and hybrid vehicles. I really don't understand either one of these vehicles being a menace, but it is the truth. I have resulted in avoiding our highways whenever possible. Maybe you should alter your routes to enjoy driving a bit more! Regardless, I wish you luck and safe passage! Cheers.
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I'm trying to track my '14 328d xDrive still in Germany. It's building it was finished a week ago & now it's siting somewhere, & I wanna it moving. How do I do it???
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As for hybrids...I theorize that they're happy with their gas mileage and think "what the heck...I'll be burning little fuel even if I drive it hard. I'll just go around other people to get through". I saw this prius cutting off other people and driving fast coming up from behind. On a red light, I tried pacing him. My car was shifting @ 3000~3500rpm all the way till 6th gear until I left off! I was going about 60mph! He was accelerating even further! It might also be that supposed nice torque-y feel from the electric motor. (I've never driven/ride a hybrid/electric car ever again.) On a side note, I just watched Afroduck's beast record, that thing is just insane! Insanely fast, insanely "skilled, insanely irresponsible, and insanely insane. I don't know how. I'm sorry I can't help you. Lastly, don't threadjack please. Last edited by PopsnBurbles; 09-08-2013 at 10:52 PM.. |
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I disagree with BMW drivers. Its all drivers. Most are calm and do nothing really. It depends on where you live and the age of the folks driving the other cars.
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having driven in Los Angeles----you guys have a VERY high concentration of d-bags on the road. BUT seriously i think the only place i've driven that competes is NYC. In fact in terms of percentage----i'd say there are more d-bags driving on the road in terms of percentage of total drivers at any given time than anywhere else i've ever driven. Violent, angry d-bags. lol. The kind who will try to get revenge on you for 20 minutes if there is a 'situation' while driving.....i have seen people get into physical fights here during road rage....actually get out of their cars, stop traffic, and go up to people's windows and fight.
as for BMW drivers----yes they suck here too. I think they are a few notches worse than Audi drivers....but BY FAR the worst drivers we have here in NYC are Nissan drivers; particularly Maximas and Altimas. They should just rebadge those cars "D-bag car A" and "D-bag car B" oh and i drive 120 miles a day here....i see my fair share of terrible driving! (too much, if i'm honest). |
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Anyway, I encounter about 20 BMW's on the road on my one way 9mi commute daily and a lot more than 20 on my way back home at night. I'll be lucky to find half of them not rushing/racing through traffic. When traffic conditions get thinner, I see a lot of people get cut off by BMW's. I know it's everyone but among the people that do it, why is it most of them are BMW's? |
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The brand that seem to have the most pricks (except possibly Toyota) = BMW. I think you New Yorkers have it worse off. Everyone is just cheating and cutting each other off. Lol they'd even cut pedestrians off if they could. GOD! When I went there, moving 2 blocks away takes 15+ minutes!!! Seriously, this guy with a Space Grey 528/530 is at a pretty empty parking lot but still had some cars and people. He was racing up and down the lot. Driving circles around other cars. He saw me (I guess, I seemed anti-social at the time and seemed fun to piss off) and "stalked" me to my car. I got in and he just blocked my way and started revving at me. When I started my car, I heard one of his buddies say "that dude's car sounds badass, not your usual chick car." Last edited by PopsnBurbles; 09-08-2013 at 11:23 PM.. |
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LA is pretty chaotic, but i feel there is at least some structure. Maybe that's why people get real angry like that woman? I do feel that you guys have to drive very long distances to get somewhere with lots of traffic backups-----which must create burning angst inside people. My guess is that 'premium' car owners are more likely the type who feel entitled or that they are somehow special......so it gives them the motivation to cut people off and act like Type A aggressors, perhaps? |
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As for the lady, the roads were pretty clear assuming she'll go along with the already fast pace (75~80mph on a 65 road). Even so, there's no need to cut me off. Yes, I'm pretty sure sense of entitlement is one of them factors I'm trying to relay. Prius/hybrids = tree hugger's sense of entitlement. BMW/Infinity/Lexus/Audi = fancy car's sense of entitlement. I definitely agree...TYPE A AGGRO's ALL THE WAY!!! |
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75 mph and 2-3 car length gap? Damn.
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But the WORST are the f**king box truck drivers. Those guys think they are in NASCAR or something with the way they attempt to draft of you. Then they pass, start going up a hill and go miserably slow. They swerve in and out not caring because it's not their personal truck and they know that if you hit them, nothing will happen to their vehicle however you are screwed. They use the exit lanes on the highway as a chance to jump in front of traffic and usually merge through the zebra lanes all the way at the end. They are the ones that drive me into INSANITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Another one that I have noticed are corolla drivers. Completely clueless people |
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I lived in Cali years ago, '87-'93, in the Monterey/Carmel area and used to cruise up to San Fran and Santa Cruz on a regular. I remember encountering a lot of douchebags on the roads. Of course they're not just relegated to Cali, I've been all over the country being former military and the douche patrol's everywhere! That said in regard to our favorite brand, I think it's a combination of both car and driver. With that driver you mention OP, I think given ANY car she'd still drive like a moron, but being that it's a BMW I'd assume that that emboldens her even more. I WOT from time to time. To say I didn't would be a bold faced lie, but one thing I will attest to is I won't put another person's life at risk to have fun. If I ever die from excessive speeding, I'll make sure I go alone.
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I agree, the lady would most likely be driving like an ass with any car. You got my point 100% when you said that a BMW empowers her driving in such a way. C'mon, I'm not saying driving fast and going WOT is always a bad thing but these should be done appropriately and responsibly. Going fast and WOT with other cars in close proximity is a fiasco waiting to happen. I've done it, you've done it, we've all done it. At least, there are the select few of us that do these things in a more controlled manner. I only go WOT when: 1. I'm alone in the car OR the 1 and only passenger I am with has the authority to order me to do so. 2. There aren't any cars close by; all including in front of me, to my side, or behind me. 3. I am in the right state of mind: not drunk (I don't drink), not pissed off, and not sleepy. 4. I must be pretty familiar with the road hazards and curves. 5. It must be on decent weather conditions. As weird and scary as this sounds, going WOT (or even 3/4) makes me feel more alive but it also makes me feel closer to the edge because I know that one mishap with me, the car, or the road will kill me. This is how I feel when riding roller coasters and other carnival/amusement park rides. |
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You'll find pricks driving any brand of car. BMWs just happen to have a reputation for having aggressive drivers. I typically attribute it to the fact that BMWs provide so much feedback and are such great driver's cars (for the most part) that they inspire some a sense of confidence in some drivers, some of whom are unfortunately irresponsible. Bottom line is that people driving on a public road should be responsible and aware of other drivers and drive safely.
Here's a story of a non-BMW driver being dumb: I had a guy in a Toyota Yaris come to a sudden stop in front of me yesterday. This wouldn't have been a problem if:
Really though, I wasn't sure if my brakes were working so I appreciated the opportunity to try them for a sudden stop. /s Believe it or not, I did not honk at him. I just sat there and let it go because really, when I'm driving home after work, I definitely don't want to get there quickly or even at least at a normal pace. I like to sit in traffic longer if possible. /s-take2 Thanks for the inconvenience, guy in the baby blue Toyota Yaris AKA douche canoe. Sorry I used your thread to rant. I honestly didn't even care by the time I got home, but what an idiot move: stopping abruptly at a green light for no apparent reason. I made my contribution at the beginning of this post at least, haha. I'm done.
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Lol it's cool as long as the ranting is somewhat relevant and you added to the thread anyway. You too hit the other half of what I'm trying to say. BMW's make the drivers feel people better drivers than they really are. I know I do...If I can take a certain turn at 50mph with my 1er, I definitely wouldn't dare try it in a Honday Odyssey. I've encountered people like that. It just so happened that it was a dude in a Pre-LCI E90. He just braked out of nowhere for no apparent reason. I didn't honk at him. I just treated it as "He wanted to turn left. There wasn't a left turn only lane. He probably imagined a pedestrian. He ultimately changed his mind." |
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