Workin' Mans Track Toy

Lucky1 · 07-26-2011, 08:47 PM

Don't forget the 350Z / 370Z. Big aftermarket if I heard correctly including forced induction options. And browsing through the classifieds I see that they aren't that expensive on resale either!

Bakeme521 · 07-26-2011, 09:20 PM

I would say miata all the way, no matter what there will be someone else at the track with another one for you to play around with or even possibly help you out with parts.

MisterSkiMask · 07-26-2011, 10:27 PM

My head knows that the miata is the right choice...Cheap parts if you go farming etc, i need to drive one

TSM330i · 07-27-2011, 07:17 AM

Definately Miata. Cheap parts and you can probably buy a track prepared car for cheap as well.
That being said, I've recently seen a Catheram for sale in DuPont Registry for $12K.

epbrown · 07-27-2011, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MisterSkiMask

So, what is it?
Boxster
Miata
S2000
Other?

Personally, I'd go with a Porsche 944 (1983-1985) or 924S. Cheap, durable, great handling and braking, it's a coupe so fewer track event restrictions.

Red Bread · 07-27-2011, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by MisterSkiMask

My head knows that the miata is the right choice...Cheap parts if you go farming etc, i need to drive one

Yep, go drive one. Some tracks even have rental Spec Miatae. I will sheepishly admit to being lapped by a (extremely well driven, clearly

) Spec Miata while in my M Coupe.

JoosyJoos · 07-27-2011, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by epbrown

Personally, I'd go with a Porsche 944 (1983-1985) or 924S. Cheap, durable, great handling and braking, it's a coupe so fewer track event restrictions.

Not really cheap to maintain, especially when compared to a miata. Great cars though--- but you'd be paying for it. Not to mention the timing belts and tensioners are notorious for ruining engines.

NYC6 · 07-27-2011, 06:38 PM

Older C5 Corvette. Maybe a Z06 version at the expense of extra beans.
Either way, a bulletproof V8 with massive low rpm TQ and big HP #'s, great brakes already installed and lightweight enough. Easy to work on, tons of mods and makers of aftermarket parts and pretty easy to wrench yourself.

TSM330i · 07-27-2011, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by NYC6

Older C5 Corvette. Maybe a Z06 version at the expense of extra beans.
Either way, a bulletproof V8 with massive low rpm TQ and big HP #'s, great brakes already installed and lightweight enough. Easy to work on, tons of mods and makers of aftermarket parts and pretty easy to wrench yourself.

+1

My last instructor had a 944 S2 turbo race car that he got tired of fixing (1 turbo and 2 heads in one season), so he put an LS1 in it and hasn't had an issue since.

Older C5 is a fantastic way to go racing for less money than you thought. I think stock rotors are $45.

turb0mik3 · 07-29-2011, 07:54 PM

A Spec'd miata will run laps around most any other car.

NYC6 · 07-29-2011, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mflowt5

A Spec'd miata will run laps around most any other car.

In a little parking lot auto-X maybe.....maybe.
On a real track........... it better stick to parking lots.

TK-421 · 07-29-2011, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by NYC6

In a little parking lot auto-X maybe.....maybe.
On a real track........... it better stick to parking lots.

JoosyJoos · 07-29-2011, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by NYC6

In a little parking lot auto-X maybe.....maybe.
On a real track........... it better stick to parking lots.

Maybe you should turn on the Continental Challenge sometime. Miatas can be seriously quick.

MisterSkiMask · 07-30-2011, 12:58 AM

After spending some time on the track, I definitely respect the miata. You can learn a lot by tucking in behind one and learning how to corner.

A momentum car will definitely make you a better driver then, say a corvette.

NYC6 · 07-30-2011, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by JoosyJoos

Maybe you should turn on the Continental Challenge sometime. Miatas can be seriously quick.

How bout a list of the winners over the years. Not only do I not see any miata winners I certainly dont see any 'running any laps" around the competition.

Season GS Champion Car ST Champion Car
2004 Craig Stanton
Terry Borcheller Cadillac CTS-V David Haskell
Sylvain Tremblay Mazda RX-8
2005 David Empringham
Scott Maxwell Ford Mustang David Haskell
Sylvain Tremblay Mazda RX-8
2006 Anders Hainer
Spencer Pumpelly BMW M3 Don Salama
Will Turner BMW 3 Series
2007 Jeff Segal
Jep Thornton BMW M3 Trevor Hopwood
Adam Burrows BMW 3 Series
2008 Joe Foster
Scott Maxwell Ford Mustang Jamie Holtom Chevrolet Cobalt
2009 Kenny Wilden Ford Mustang Christian Miller Honda Civic Si
2010 Charles Espenlaub
Charles Putman BMW M3 David Thilenius1
Lawson Aschenbach1 Honda Civic Si

JoosyJoos · 07-30-2011, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by NYC6

How bout a list of the winners over the years. Not only do I not see any miata winners I certainly dont see any 'running any laps" around the competition.

Season GS Champion Car ST Champion Car
2004 Craig Stanton
Terry Borcheller Cadillac CTS-V David Haskell
Sylvain Tremblay Mazda RX-8
2005 David Empringham
Scott Maxwell Ford Mustang David Haskell
Sylvain Tremblay Mazda RX-8
2006 Anders Hainer
Spencer Pumpelly BMW M3 Don Salama
Will Turner BMW 3 Series
2007 Jeff Segal
Jep Thornton BMW M3 Trevor Hopwood
Adam Burrows BMW 3 Series
2008 Joe Foster
Scott Maxwell Ford Mustang Jamie Holtom Chevrolet Cobalt
2009 Kenny Wilden Ford Mustang Christian Miller Honda Civic Si
2010 Charles Espenlaub
Charles Putman BMW M3 David Thilenius1
Lawson Aschenbach1 Honda Civic Si

First off you're mixing classes ST and GS. Second, I said quick, not fastest. That and Mazda officially backed the RX-8 up until recently when they started to encourage their Miata's and Speed3's in ST.

-=Hot|Ice=- · 07-30-2011, 05:01 PM

Boxster. Can't beat the balance of the mid-engine.

graider · 07-31-2011, 05:21 AM

s2000 IMO.

NYC6 · 07-31-2011, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JoosyJoos

First off you're mixing classes ST and GS. Second, I said quick, not fastest. That and Mazda officially backed the RX-8 up until recently when they started to encourage their Miata's and Speed3's in ST.

First off, I know I posted both classes. Cut and pasted it and thats the way it is. Not a big deal unless someone wants to distract attention from the jest of it.
Secondly, you brought up the series not me, I posted data from that series thats disproves your arguement and now you to change your story? If you bring up racing you should be prepared to show checkered flags to validate your point. A big goose egg 0 and splitting the hair between 'quick" and "fast" doesnt "cut" it.

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