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      05-29-2019, 11:03 PM   #23
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"Everybody copies. Only the bad ones got caught" ... Sting on CNN Larry King's show. (And I am sure he heard it from someone else).

And I wouldn't be surprised if Beethoven was accused of copying Mozart back in his days and if I could use an automotive analogy, Beethoven would be the Ferrari and Mozart a Honda (there are a lot more Hondas than Ferrari's on the road :-)
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      05-29-2019, 11:54 PM   #24
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Haha... like I said Read just about ANY article on the new F-Car...they ALL mention the NSX...you might save yourself some embarrassment

Just google the new Ferrari..... every article I've read mentions the NSX
Dude we get it, you're an NSX fan-boy. But you're definitely reaching here.

Also the CNET article you referenced has ONE sentence on the NSX "They sit up front, one attached to each wheel, to enable torque-vectoring all-wheel drive in a layout that is very similar to the Acura NSX's." saying it's similar to the NSX isn't exactly something I'd consider a strong argument to support Ferrari "copying" the NSX.

What is it you said? "Just about every article on the car mentions the NSX...you should read one or two."

I took your other advice and Googled "Ferrari SF90". Of the top 6 articles linked, only one (the same CNET article you referenced) even bothers to mention the NSX. A far cry from "every article"...but sure, 17% make a vague reference.

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Here, I'll do you a favor and link them:
1// https://www.thedrive.com/news/28289/...adale-supercar
2// https://www.automobilemag.com/news/2...eo-specs-info/
3// https://www.topgear.com/car-news/ele...ybrid-supercar
4// https://jalopnik.com/the-ferrari-sf9...riv-1835098561
5// https://www.forbes.com/sites/markewi.../#cacced01f55a

Do they share similar motor layouts? Sure! But that has more in common with saying "they both share the same tire configuration, two on each side" than it does with drawing a connection to Ferrari copying Acura...

Not trying to be a keyboard warrior here. I'm an NSX fan. But when I see a house of cards I'm inclined to knock it down.
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      05-30-2019, 12:04 AM   #25
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And the NSX copied the 918 which was out long time ago. The LaFerrari already had hybrid. So it's not like Ferrari was waiting to see what Honda was doing. And of course all wheel drive had existed since 1900's. So to say Ferrari copied Honda is like saying Kate Upton copied some plain jane.

918 has one motor in the front driving both wheels. One in the back.

NSX has two in the front, one to each wheel. One in the back.

The Rimac (pre-dates the NSX) has one to each wheel, for a total of four.

It's not like Acura did something groundbreaking...there's only so many layouts to play with.
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Hmmm looks a lot like the second gen NSX....
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      05-30-2019, 01:34 AM   #27
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This is nothing new in the auto industry... don’t see why it’s so hard to believe the Ferrari would dissect the new NSX in its development of the new hybrid Supercar

Turn about is fair play... Honda admitted buying a 458 and chopping it up when they were developing the new NSX a few years ago

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.car...rrari-458/amp/

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      05-30-2019, 03:37 AM   #28
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i dont think anyone copied. since the 918, p1, and LaF all came out its been pretty well known that the future would be small displacement engine, twin turbos, and a battery to eliminate lag. and AWD at least until tire tech can improve to put down this kind of power.
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      05-30-2019, 05:19 AM   #29
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new NSX didnt influence that much any of the brands.. there is nothing that much groundbreaking except its price is much much higher than expected..

mk1 NSX did a big influence on the car industry.. thats called groundbreaking.. old NSX influenced McLaren F1 pretty much and the cars that follows on other brands.. there are a lot articles that Gordon Murray states how NSX influenced him at the start of McLaren F1.. but not this NSX at all..
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