[SteveinArizona]

Originally Posted by rmanm4

It doesn't SOUND awesome!

V8, V10 and V12s all give real men a boner when revved! I-6 engines just dont cut it, no matter how much power they make!

This is also why ICE will always be what real men prefer over a super fast Tesla.

Sound is a huge part of the driving experience! Anyone who doesn't agree is just driving to get from point A to point B.

So you are not a real man as you drive a car with an I-6 (2020 M4)? Should your handle be "Rwoman4"?

[rmanm4]

Originally Posted by SteveinArizona

So you are not a real man as you drive a car with an I-6 (2020 M4)? Should your handle be "Rwoman4"?

You should learn to read what I wrote! I said real men drive ICE and not electric! Vx > Ix is a true statement but I did not state that driving a I-6 makes you a woman!

[Oldgixxer]

Originally Posted by Mach550

What issues did you have? My engines been rock solid and I definitely hammer it almost daily.

Maybe I had a lemon,but that fucker was at the dealer 12x from the time I brought it home in Jan 2020 til the time BMW bought me out of the lease this past August. Hi pressure fuel pump failure(s),drivetrain malfunctions,oil consumption,etc. I had high hopes of having it tuned as well,but was too nervous w all the issues. Was pretty quick too for a stock vehicle(my Dragy results are posted in the respective M550 section).

Feel sorry for whomever bought that from my dealer;I've seen it on the road a few times as a local purchased it....

[chris719]

Originally Posted by chassis

AMG:

M156 head bolt failure and soft cam lobes
M278/M157 cylinder scuffing, valve guides and chain tensioner problems
M17x unexplained/unsolved misfires

For long term ownership I would not own any AMG V8 unless engine replacement is in your budget. Engine replacement is not guaranteed, but not unheard of.

S85 and S63 aren't exactly Toyota engines either, though. At least S63 has improved over the years.