[heavyD^2]

I wish they didn't go with so much black plastic on the front end. As with the new RS3 all the black plastic looks homely and cheap. BMW is also guilty of adding a lot of black plastic these days and even Porsche isn't immune as the updated Macan has all this black plastic on the front end and it looks worse than the outgoing models. I have to wonder what's driving this in the industry as it just doesn't look great.

[Donatello.]

How much? Might be worth a cheap lease

[pakman340xi]

Very interested in the Elantra N, since I want to go back to a fun compact car for a daily, but I won't be buying any car until summer 2022 anyways.

If new car inventory ramps up next year we might see nice discounts on this car.

[OkieSnuffBox]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

And google the 2021 average new car price, it's $45,0xx. I saw Forbes, CNET and Edmunds all listed the same number.

To be fair, the supply chain issues and peoples idiocy to overpay is really the main driver of that.

That's up from $37k last year.

[stein_325i]

Originally Posted by Germanauto

But on the flip side, I have to wonder who the target buyer is for this car?

The Civic/Golf/Focus crowd will likely be buying this, as well as the tuner crowd. Veloster N's, K5's and Stingers have been popping up at car shows/meet ups more and more recently and are gaining a following. With the Elantra having four proper doors (versus the Veloster's less practical body style) and being of a similar price to the Veloster N, this will likely have greater reach and demand to a larger audience than the Veloster did, not to mention the warranties and maintenance are pretty generous which should help a few budget conscious buyers.

Originally Posted by Germanauto

It seems like such a niche product that I won't be surprised if in a couple years we hear about it being killed off. Hyundai does not have the brand following that say VW or Honda does which allows the latter brands to get away with niche cars like the GTI/R and Civic Type R.

I don't think this type of car will be killed off by Hyundai, at least not before any sort of EV era. Hyundai has the funds to support their N division, and has been using Biermann and their team of poached Germans to the greatest of their abilities. Not to mention the N Division will will also be modifying Hyundai's future EV's, ensuring a future for the division.

Prototype Drive: Hyundai RM20e Teases the Future of N

[stein_325i]

[billnchristy]

I was actually going to get one of these instead of a new BMW until the dealer added almost 10k in markups and BS. They wanted 47k out the door for one.

Naw.

[aardate]

Originally Posted by billnchristy

I was actually going to get one of these instead of a new BMW until the dealer added almost 10k in markups and BS. They wanted 47k out the door for one.

Naw.

DAMN!