[XClan]

The SQ5 looks sweet. Only ding I would give it is that passenger-side screen. Nice ext/int otherwise.

[EWL5]

Originally Posted by XClan

The SQ5 looks sweet. Only ding I would give it is that passenger-side screen. Nice ext/int otherwise.

The passenger side screen is additional cost and not standard (I think).

[JK479]

Originally Posted by -JLT-

after having a F80 M3, F83 M4 ‘vert, F97 X3M Comp, and F98 X4M Comp, i’m sad to say i’m probably leaving the BMW family. as much as i tried to love the new design of the G45 X3, i just can’t. the design direction, both exterior and interior, is just not attractive to me. i will definitely be back, if things change in the future.

i have loved modifying all my rides (see build threads below), but my next build will most likely be the new 2025 AUDI SQ5. i’m really loving their new design direction. both the exterior and interior designs are 10x better looking than the new X3 imo.

very sad to be leaving BMW. hopefully it will be short lived but we shall see. sorry for the rant and let me know your thoughts.

https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1027512

https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1346255

https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1663179

https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1946557

I’m almost there on this new sq5- it’s got a moonroof that opens- a steering wheel
Without a red stripe 😒- most of all the interior and power is close to an x3 finally.

I see your point on this

[JK479]

Originally Posted by -JLT-

i agree that an A4 is more similar to the Arteon and A3 to Jetta but an S4, A3 or even RS4, RS3 isn’t the same at all.

I don’t think the a4 shared a platform with Arteon. Rather it was the outgoing Passat.

[JK479]

Originally Posted by Mavus

sq5 is looking good … interesting update per Auto Blog

Audi says all models at launch will fit a seven-speed dual clutch, meaning the SQ5 would relinquish its eight-speed torque converter Tiptronic transmission.


Too bad BMW fkd up design

Is it a good dual clutch? The DCT in the x1 makes me worried about all DCTs!

That being said- PDK at Porsche is perfect. So there is that.

[JK479]

Originally Posted by Ravenous666

I was on the edge of ordering a G45. Until the SQ5 TFSI V6 came up.

But after having two TT Quattro with DSG and a 2016 RS3 with dual clutch transmissions I can say i'm not so sure the SQ5 would fit. We had an M240iX and currently own 2 G01 X3s.

The ZF8 is unmatched by any VW/Audi dual clutch DSG gearbox and I would rather accept design flaws than the lag of the VW DSG gearbox.

SO I'll look at the demo car at my BMW dealer as soon as it's there and might order a M50 X3 G45.

Why would Audi go DSG (dual clutch) and possibly jeopardize their bread and butter?

[srekal34]

Originally Posted by JK479

Why would Audi go DSG (dual clutch) and possibly jeopardize their bread and butter?

You need to ask them because all new Q5 is DSG only, no tiptronic on any version anymore.

[Mavus]

Originally Posted by JK479

Is it a good dual clutch? The DCT in the x1 makes me worried about all DCTs!

That being said- PDK at Porsche is perfect. So there is that.

we’ll need to find out which one is it and then test drive

it might be dct from rs3

[BigMonkeyWrench]

My completely unsubstantiated guess is because DCT requires maintenance at ~30K miles. Money thrown in to keep the dealers happy. Same reason why Audi and Porsche don't (or didn't) have regen braking. My conspiracy theory is to accelerate brake wear and replacement. Otherwise, once EVs become mainstream, the dealers won't have anything to work on, other than warranty issues.

[Mavus]

which dct requires 30k maint and what is it? do you know the model no. of the new dct that Audi will use?

also what regen braking are you talking about, what car models?

Regen braking causes component wear also.

let’s be little bit more specific vs writing general comments that don’t mean much.

[Ravenous666]

Originally Posted by Mavus

which dct requires 30k maint and what is it? do you know the model no. of the new dct that Audi will use?

also what regen braking are you talking about, what car models?

Regen braking causes component wear also.

let’s be little bit more specific vs writing general comments that don’t mean much.

Usually all DSG gearboxes require oil change latest every 60000km.

Only DSG that would fit the SQ5 V6 would be the DQ500. The smaller DQ381 is only rated for max 420Nm torque and the SQ5s V6 is putting out 550Nm.

The DQ500 was ok and without problems in my RS3, but like all DSGs accceleration has a little bit of lag

[Mavus]

Originally Posted by Ravenous666

Usually all DSG gearboxes require oil change latest every 60000km.

Only DSG that would fit the SQ5 V6 would be the DQ500. The smaller DQ381 is only rated for max 420Nm torque and the SQ5s V6 is putting out 550Nm.

The DQ500 was ok and without problems in my RS3, but like all DSGs accceleration has a little bit of lag

ok good info

is that lag from dsg shifting or turbo lag? is the lag there when shifting manually? some of it may be tuning

m-dct is pretty much lag free and gear changes are lightning fast so it will be interesting to compare

[BigMonkeyWrench]

Originally Posted by Mavus

which dct requires 30k maint and what is it? do you know the model no. of the new dct that Audi will use?

also what regen braking are you talking about, what car models?

Regen braking causes component wear also.

let’s be little bit more specific vs writing general comments that don’t mean much.

All the info necessary was in the post. If you don't understand it, that's on you to go google it and learn. I think it was clear when I mentioned EVs for regen braking. And no, it doesn't cause component wear in EVs. So take your own advice and comprehend before "writing general comments that don't mean much".

[Mavus]

Originally Posted by BigMonkeyWrench

All the info necessary was in the post. If you don't understand it, that's on you to go google it and learn. I think it was clear when I mentioned EVs for regen braking. And no, it doesn't cause component wear in EVs. So take your own advice and comprehend before "writing general comments that don't mean much".

don’t want to derail the thread to ev’s but if you generate energy “something” is doing the work based on laws of physics thus those components are subject to wear (el motor, capacitors, resistors, cables, battery etc). also regen braking is not unique to ev’s.

back to our ice vehicles now …

[JK479]

Originally Posted by srekal34

You need to ask them because all new Q5 is DSG only, no tiptronic on any version anymore.

If it’s like the PDK- we are all set.

If it’s closer to the Mini/BMW DCT- it won’t work.

[Jen4BMW]

Originally Posted by ASAP

If excitement or any sort of driving experience is a priority for you... or steering feel or throttle response... you better be prepared to get disappointed with audi lol... audi makes solid cars but unless you understand their philosophy of who they build their cars for... they are really not for you. (source owned an Audi S3... driven the entire Audi line... family members have a Q5 and Q7).

100% agree ASAP

Just returned from a week spent touring colleges in Florida and put 1,400 miles on a brand new Q7 rental that was loaded. I didn’t like anything about it and couldn’t wait to get back in my M40i. The biggest disappointment was engine performance. My bernedoodle accelerates better.

[VER]

Not a fan of light bars and no idea what the heck they are doing with the rear bumper design, but overall the new SQ5 isn't straight up offensive so it'll sell very well and be in my consideration set around the time it gets refreshed.

[internalaudit]

BMW is going to have a tougher time competing once many of us are out shopping for BEVs.

The powertrain/drivetrain advantages will go away and if the current design (2025 X3, iX, XM) stays on...

At least Audi is also copying the elongated display screen lol so possibly can rule them out too.

I'll be left with the Japanese manufacturers most likely, whose designs haven't really been inspiring of late either.

[14all41]

Originally Posted by JK479

I’m almost there on this new sq5- it’s got a moonroof that opens- a steering wheel
Without a red stripe 😒- most of all the interior and power is close to an x3 finally.

I see your point on this

There is a good chance I will be jumping off the BMW ship as well. Went to BMW, looked at and drove the M50. I could almost get used to the design but it is still ugly to me. The sunroof not opening is a deal breaker for me. So it's going to be the X5 Hybrid, the SQ5 or the Macan.

[JK479]

Originally Posted by 14all41

There is a good chance I will be jumping off the BMW ship as well. Went to BMW, looked at and drove the M50. I could almost get used to the design but it is still ugly to me. The sunroof not opening is a deal breaker for me. So it's going to be the X5 Hybrid, the SQ5 or the Macan.

That new 25 sQ5 looks awesome.

Macan S- bigger money. Good luck✌️

[DocMarshall]

I think the new bodystyle is going to be a 26 model. The 25's are on the site and look the same as the prior year.

[EWL5]

Originally Posted by DocMarshall

I think the new bodystyle is going to be a 26 model. The 25's are on the site and look the same as the prior year.

Not according to this:
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a6...-sq5-revealed/