Article: Cars that make Detroit worth saving. Any of them worth it?

Tennberg · 12-20-2008, 04:23 PM

Found this article on MSN this morning, I apologize if it's been posted already:

http://editorial.autos.msn.com/lista...umentid=786706

Basically, these are, in the writer's opinion, the 11 cars that make the auto bailout a good idea and worth saving Detroit:

Cadillac CTS
Chevrolet Corvette
Chevrolet Malibu
Chrysler Town & Country
Dodge Challenger
Ford Escape Hybrid
Ford F-150
Ford Flex
Ford Fusion Hybrd
GMC Acadia
Pontiac G8

I've never personally driven any of these cars, so I cannot attest to their performance or build quality. I've only ever driven European cars (first a Volvo, then an Audi, and then 2 Bimmers - currently drive an '09 E90 335i).

What are your thoughts on this list?

Year's_End · 12-20-2008, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Tennberg

Cadillac CTS
Chevrolet Corvette
Chevrolet Malibu
Dodge Challenger
Pontiac G8

Funny you mentioned this article. I just read it. I crossed out the ones I'd never consider. These ones are nice and prove that GM deserves another chance. Ford and chrysler can die for all I care.

san~man · 12-20-2008, 05:39 PM

ford isn't included in the bailout, so the article = fail

vAnt826 · 12-20-2008, 09:40 PM

Why are magazines touting that the Flex will save Ford?

HAVE THEY SEEN THE FLEX?! That is by far the ugliest car I have seen in a while.

Seeing Ford and other US automakers make such piss poor cars makes it really difficult for me to feel sorry for them.

DougLikesBMW · 12-20-2008, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bimmer Loyalist

Funny you mentioned this article. I just read it. I crossed out the ones I'd never consider. These ones are nice and prove that GM deserves another chance. Ford and chrysler can die for all I care.

I'd have to agree with you here. We rented a Malibu once for a 700 mile trip once and to my surprise it was pretty solid.

ledclulez · 12-21-2008, 02:00 PM

the definite trash it or dump it realfast nominations are

HHR
HumVee
Monte Carlo
the entire Buick lineup
Charger
GMCs

and last and most important Dump the UAW President along with Wagner

1cleanm6 · 12-21-2008, 02:37 PM

The Saturn Vue, and aura sell well also...

theres a huge market for the Saturn Vue.

M3350Z · 12-21-2008, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tennberg

Found this article on MSN this morning, I apologize if it's been posted already:

http://editorial.autos.msn.com/lista...umentid=786706

Basically, these are, in the writer's opinion, the 11 cars that make the auto bailout a good idea and worth saving Detroit:

Cadillac CTS
Chevrolet Corvette
Chevrolet Malibu
Chrysler Town & Country
Dodge Challenger
Ford Escape Hybrid
Ford F-150
Ford Flex
Ford Fusion Hybrd
GMC Acadia
Pontiac G8

I've never personally driven any of these cars, so I cannot attest to their performance or build quality. I've only ever driven European cars (first a Volvo, then an Audi, and then 2 Bimmers - currently drive an '09 E90 335i).

What are your thoughts on this list?

Short answer: No
Long answer: No, none of them.

lyndon_h · 12-21-2008, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by M3350Z

Short answer: No
Long answer: No, none of them.

The Corvette and CTS (V) are world beaters and you say "NO". Sounds like GM just needs to change their logo to a blue, white and black propeller then you'd be much more impressed with those two cars.

M3350Z · 12-21-2008, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by lyndon_h

The Corvette and CTS (V) are world beaters and you say "NO". Sounds like GM just needs to change their logo to a blue, white and black propeller then you'd be much more impressed with those two cars.

No offense to you but a fast piece is still a piece.

I do think the vette has vastly improved though in recent years. But Cadillacs are

I don't care if that thing has 10000 hp.

EZ_TUR90 · 12-21-2008, 11:12 PM

The CTS and the Vett arent bad, and the F150 is a great work car. But wouldnt buy any of them. :/

Kev · 12-21-2008, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bimmer Loyalist

Funny you mentioned this article. I just read it. I crossed out the ones I'd never consider. These ones are nice and prove that GM deserves another chance. Ford and chrysler can die for all I care.

You realize that Dodge is owned by Chrysler, right?

ChrisV · 12-22-2008, 02:42 PM

Ford is actually the only one of the big three that doesn't need a bailout. They've only asked for a credit line, but said they can get by without it. Alan Mullaly has recently come over from Boeing, and has been having no problem turning Ford around.

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll...811130413/1148

JL330i_UT · 12-22-2008, 02:46 PM

i think the escalade should be on the list. GM paid off all development costs after only 6 months from when the car hit dealers. and imo i think its purdee

and i dont know about the rest of the country but here they are very common, at least 1/3 of all my neighboor's have one. (badge whores)

Inzane · 12-22-2008, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tennberg

Cadillac CTS
Chevrolet Corvette
Chevrolet Malibu
Chrysler Town & Country
Dodge Challenger
Ford Escape Hybrid
Ford F-150
Ford Flex
Ford Fusion Hybrd
GMC Acadia
Pontiac G8

What are your thoughts on this list?

The Vette is the only car on that list that I'd miss.

12-20-2008, 04:23 PM	#1
Tennberg Private First Class 20 Rep 132 Posts Drives: 2009 E90 335i w/ xDrive Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Boston iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 335i xDrive Sedan [0.00]	Article: Cars that make Detroit worth saving. Any of them worth it? Found this article on MSN this morning, I apologize if it's been posted already: http://editorial.autos.msn.com/lista...umentid=786706 Basically, these are, in the writer's opinion, the 11 cars that make the auto bailout a good idea and worth saving Detroit: Cadillac CTS Chevrolet Corvette Chevrolet Malibu Chrysler Town & Country Dodge Challenger Ford Escape Hybrid Ford F-150 Ford Flex Ford Fusion Hybrd GMC Acadia Pontiac G8 I've never personally driven any of these cars, so I cannot attest to their performance or build quality. I've only ever driven European cars (first a Volvo, then an Audi, and then 2 Bimmers - currently drive an '09 E90 335i). What are your thoughts on this list?
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vAnt826 Major 65 Rep 1,417 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Seattle iTrader: (3)	Why are magazines touting that the Flex will save Ford? HAVE THEY SEEN THE FLEX?! That is by far the ugliest car I have seen in a while. Seeing Ford and other US automakers make such piss poor cars makes it really difficult for me to feel sorry for them.
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ledclulez New Member 0 Rep 12 Posts Drives: e90 i35i Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Bowie Md iTrader: (0)	the definite trash it or dump it realfast nominations are HHR HumVee Monte Carlo the entire Buick lineup Charger GMCs and last and most important Dump the UAW President along with Wagner
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1cleanm6 Brigadier General 465 Rep 3,666 Posts Drives: M5 comp/Range/i3S Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Earth iTrader: (7)	The Saturn Vue, and aura sell well also... theres a huge market for the Saturn Vue.
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EZ_TUR90 Ez tur90 197 Rep 3,193 Posts Drives: M6 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (11)	The CTS and the Vett arent bad, and the F150 is a great work car. But wouldnt buy any of them. :/ __________________
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ChrisV 7er 9 Rep 409 Posts Drives: 1998 BMW 740iL Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Pikesville, MD iTrader: (0) Garage List 1998 740iL [6.00]	Ford is actually the only one of the big three that doesn't need a bailout. They've only asked for a credit line, but said they can get by without it. Alan Mullaly has recently come over from Boeing, and has been having no problem turning Ford around. http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll...811130413/1148 __________________ 1998 740iL
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JL330i_UT Lieutenant 33 Rep 462 Posts Drives: G20 330i Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Salt Lake City Utah iTrader: (0)	i think the escalade should be on the list. GM paid off all development costs after only 6 months from when the car hit dealers. and imo i think its purdee and i dont know about the rest of the country but here they are very common, at least 1/3 of all my neighboor's have one. (badge whores)
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