[Mandi90TT]

I was thinking to myself that this was an epic troll by Springs1, but then, very few trolls go to this level of effort. She honestly thinks she is rational, and sane. So did the Unabomber.

[jtodd_fl]

Originally Posted by Dave 90TT

I was thinking to myself that this was an epic troll by Springs1, but then, very few trolls go to this level of effort. She honestly thinks she is rational, and sane. So did the Unabomber.

It's even scarier than a troll. He is dead serious. I know it's a "he" because no woman would spend this much time on this. They'd go get laid and relieve the tension. An option that I guess is not available to Mr. springs.

[Needbmwpartzz]

Originally Posted by jtodd_fl

It's even scarier than a troll. He is dead serious. I know it's a "he" because no woman would spend this much time on this. They'd go get laid and relieve the tension. An option that I guess is not available to Mr. springs.

It's a she....read her previous posts on her profile.

Originally Posted by Dave 90TT

I was thinking to myself that this was an epic troll by Springs1, but then, very few trolls go to this level of effort. She honestly thinks she is rational, and sane. So did the Unabomber.

WHY am I not rational or sane to you? Please explain why being *HONEST* is a problem here?

Originally Posted by jtodd_fl

It's even scarier than a troll. He is dead serious. I know it's a "he" because no woman would spend this much time on this. They'd go get laid and relieve the tension. An option that I guess is not available to Mr. springs.

I am a woman. I am extremely sensitive about servers hurting my feelings. For example, in the middle of ordering, I have had several servers close their book and stop writing my order down. That's just down right RUDE and it DOES hurt my feelings. WHY? So they can't take an extra 20-30 seconds to take my order so they can *CARE* about getting it right so I can *CARE* about their tip at the end? If they care about me, I care about them.

[jgoens]

Originally Posted by Springs1

Here, read and weep:

Look at these servers that agree with me, shall we:

http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/ti...337603/page-14

flowwiththego said:

“Springs does make some good points. In my experience, at least half the time if not more it is the servers fault when food takes too long. for example, I hate when the servers hold their tix and put in 4 (or even three) at once. They are not allowed to do that. So the first table has to wait extra long and other servers got tix in also. I can’t tell you how many times someone will say they have been here for 45 minutes and the tix time says they were 20 minutes.”

Read what Stef 319 said:

http://howtobeagoodserver.blogspot.c...?commentPage=4

She is responding to MT's comment and this was a waitress at a Red Lobster. I had gone on her blog, she came onto mine agreeing with me. Her blog has since been deleted, so I can't go on hers, but her comment is still on my blog.

" MT
"Your system of never taking another tables drink order before turning in a ticket would back you up terribly, not to mention the humongous quantity of time you'd waste checking plates and menu prices. It would take you forever to get anything done."

In my opinion, MT, once an order is taken, it should be put into the computer IMMEDIATELY. Once my guests place their order with me, the clock begins to tick. They should be getting their apps 5-10 minutes after they PLACE their order, and their entrees should take between 20-30 minutes (where I work). You really should not start off a new table with an appetizer or dinner order on hold. The guests who just placed their order (who are hungry) are watching you approach another table. You then have to build your rapport, go over the specials, and possibly answer questions. This can potentially be very time consuming and your guests are not going to appreciate the delay in your service. There are other times when it is acceptable to work all your tables together, but when you have a food order you shouldn't be doing this. The correct way to handle this is to approach the table (with the other tables' menus in hand) and acknowledge their presence, and tell them YOU WILL BE RIGHT BACK. Then you ring in the order, go back to the table, and then you can do your greeting, go over specials, answer questions, etc. Now you can take your time with the new table cause you know that your other tables' food is getting worked on by the kitchen. I know that this can be time-consuming but it really is worth it. Waste no time getting food orders in. August 5, 2011 at 12:05 PM "

You do realize that she is right about once you take an order, the CLOCK BEGINS TO TICK and that actually goes for anyone waiting for a talbe AS WELL AS the customers that the server took the order from.

She was a server and AGREES WITH ME, isn't that something? It's because it's TRUE. Look at Flowwiththego how this person said how the first table has to wait "EXTRA LONG", which is preventing customers from getting seated faster if there is a wait for a table or if there becomes a wait for a table when the customer arrives. Every MINUTE, SECOND COUNTS in service. That's what you don't seem to understand. As this person said, other servers have put orders in also AHEAD of that first table, so the first table REALLY GETS A HUGE, HUGE HIT when it comes to wait times. It prevents that table from leaving faster. If it's a triple sat situation, even the second table is being punished for the 3rd table. Not going to put in orders right after getting them only helps ONE table out the 3 and that is making the other 2 tables contribute to a longer wait time to get seated.

Read this from a former bartender:

http://www.cafemom.com/group/416/for...next=1#replies

AutymsMommy said: "I was a bartender during college and I can tell you that in my bar, it was generally the servers fault when bar drinks didn't get to a table in a decent amount of time. I would make service drinks first (I could entertain my bar customers easier than you can explain to a table why it's taking so long to get a drink)... put them on the service bar and the waiters were supposed to pick them up. I can't tell you how many times those drinks would sit there for 5-10 minutes. Then I would have the server bringing the drink back complaining that the customer said it was "watered down".*insert eyeroll*"

Isn't that something that from a *BARTENDER* HERSELF she says that it's most of the time the *SERVER'S FAULT*, HMMM, ISN'T THAT SOMETHING, HUH?????

WHY would these people that actually **DO*** THE JOB actually TELL you this if this wasn't **TRUE** huh???

Originally Posted by Springs1

Read another former waiter that AGREES with me since it is the TRUTH:

http://slickdeals.net/e/600104-thoug...11#commentsBox

Demosthenes9 said: "Absolutely right. As a waiter, it was ultimately my responsibility to ensure that EVERYTHING was correct with your food. Cooks would plate up entrees and the expediter would "build tickets" by collecting the correct entrees, adding the side items, and placing the plates on a tray to complete the order. (at least that's how it worked just about everywhere I have been).

At that point, the waiter SHOULD check each plate to see that the order is correct to include having the correct side items. Waiter should also make sure that the food is still hot and didn't "die in the window" while waiting for the order to be filled.

Lastly, a waiter who actually knows what he is doing can simply look at your steak and tell with some accuracy whether it is cooked correctly or not. (There are of course exceptions where steaks are "borderline", like right between medium rare and medium, or between medium and mid well.)

I have had any number of cooks yell at me because I told them to recook a steak before I even took it to the table. It doesn't take a genius to see a somewhat burnt steak sitting on a plate and to figure out that it ISN'T medium rare as ordered.)

The funny thing is, if waiters took the time to pay attention to the little details like the one's Spring mentioned, they would actually have MORE time on their hands to take care of customers.

Afterall, it takes maybe 30 seconds to check over an order and make sure it's correct. Failure to do so means that you now have to go all the way back to the kitchen, argue with a cook, get a replacement side item, then carry it back out to the table.

That time could have been better spent taking care of other tables instead. "

Don't even feel like reading any of it...your wasting your time.

[jgoens]

Originally Posted by Needbmwpartzz

It's a she....read her previous posts on her profile.

I guess I would be like that if I drove a dodge neon.

[PINeely]

Here's some ***HONEST*** truth for you: nobody gives a shit. Writing a novel about your bad service at Dennys? Oh yeah, you talked about that time you really sprung and went to Red Lobster. Red Lobster.

I'm sorry that you got strawberry sauce instead of raspberry. I'm sorry that your bacon wasn't burnt to a crisp. Why don't you put some raspberry sauce on that sore ass of yours to make it feel better.

Originally Posted by jgoens

Don't even feel like reading any of it...your wasting your time.

You are just too lazy and MADD I PROVED YOU ALL WRONG! It's hilarious to see people who CAN'T EVER ADMIT WHEN THEY ARE WRONG!

Originally Posted by PINeely

Here's some ***HONEST*** truth for you: nobody gives a shit. Writing a novel about your bad service at Dennys? Oh yeah, you talked about that time you really sprung and went to Red Lobster. Red Lobster.

I'm sorry that you got strawberry sauce instead of raspberry. I'm sorry that your bacon wasn't extra crispy. Why don't you put some raspberry sauce on that sore ass of yours.

If they didn't give a shit, WHY did these people LIE and say it's not the server's fault then, huh??

[jgoens]

Originally Posted by PINeely

Here's some ***HONEST*** truth for you: nobody gives a shit. Writing a novel about your bad service at Dennys? Oh yeah, you talked about that time you really sprung and went to Red Lobster. Red Lobster.

I'm sorry that you got strawberry sauce instead of raspberry. I'm sorry that your bacon wasn't extra crispy. Why don't you put some raspberry sauce on that sore ass of yours.

holy shit...that was funny.

Originally Posted by jgoens

holy shit...that was funny.

You are mean!

[Needbmwpartzz]

Originally Posted by Needbmwpartzz

I am NO TROLL IDIOT!! All I am merely doing is stopping the LIARS!

[Needbmwpartzz]

Originally Posted by Springs1

I am NO TROLL IDIOT!!

I was on your side about that last mean comment!

[jgoens]

Originally Posted by Springs1

I am NO TROLL IDIOT!! All I am merely doing is stopping the LIARS!

[jgoens]

Originally Posted by Springs1

You are mean!

I was being HONEST..it was funny.

Originally Posted by jgoens

I was being HONEST..it was funny.

If it were *YOUR FOOD* you would feel VERY DIFFERENTLY and you know it. Like some server deciding to serve you something you didn't order or getting your side dish obviously wrong. It sucks.

[kscarrol]

Originally Posted by Springs1

I am a woman. I am extremely sensitive about servers hurting my feelings. For example, in the middle of ordering, I have had several servers close their book and stop writing my order down. That's just down right RUDE and it DOES hurt my feelings. WHY? So they can't take an extra 20-30 seconds to take my order so they can *CARE* about getting it right so I can *CARE* about their tip at the end? If they care about me, I care about them.

This post speaks volumes. There have clearly been some issues in the past that are driving these lectures...

[jtodd_fl]

Originally Posted by Springs1

I am a woman. I am extremely sensitive about servers hurting my feelings. For example, in the middle of ordering, I have had several servers close their book and stop writing my order down. That's just down right RUDE and it DOES hurt my feelings. WHY? So they can't take an extra 20-30 seconds to take my order so they can *CARE* about getting it right so I can *CARE* about their tip at the end? If they care about me, I care about them.

Thought of witty repartee then realized I didn't really want to invest more time. I will "close my book" on this thread simply by telling you to try and relax and possibly seek some help. These things are really not worth this much of your mental effort. I wish you some serenity and peace in your life and I hope that people treat you with more kindness and compassion than it seems you treat others with. Peace.

[wdb]

This needs to go in the epic threads archive.

[Axius]

Originally Posted by Joekerr

I really feel you are underappreciating the value of your artwork.

I'm flattered.

Originally Posted by jgoens

Do you add the balls as well?

If you've seen my drawings on here in the past, everything is realism. I'd never just draw a shaft with a head, need to make sure the audience is getting what they pay for.