[Kev312]

Originally Posted by are0lies

And who is paying for said wall?

Depends how creative they can be or much they want to take our country into debt.

[Kev312]

Originally Posted by yousefnjr

I believe the new travel restrictions are currently in effect. He came from somewhere not on the list. Add Uzbekistan? And the next country? And the next? I don’t have a good solution either. My concern is that security reaches a point of diminishing returns, where you start to do more harm than good, either by not letting in the right people, spending billions, etc. Trying to balance that is tough, especially when emotions run high

This is the most honest response I've read on several threads. Bravo

[bbbbmw]

Originally Posted by yousefnjr

In the context of this case, which this thread is about, yes a physical border is meaningless. Nobody here is calling for wide open borders in general.

Ummm.... under Obama, we had wide open borders. And these stupid programs to allow immigration from radicalized countries and regions, with little to no real vetting. And with 20% of Americans being foreign-born, we don't need any more until these can assimilate. Many public schools have to teach in over 100 foreign languages and dialects, and the public assistance dollars consumed far outweigh any taxes paid. And that's before we have the terrorism issues.

[Delta0311]

Originally Posted by bbbbmw

Ummm.... under Obama, we had wide open borders. And these stupid programs to allow immigration from radicalized countries and regions, with little to no real vetting. And with 20% of Americans being foreign-born, we don't need any more until these can assimilate. Many public schools have to teach in over 100 foreign languages and dialects, and the public assistance dollars consumed far outweigh any taxes paid. And that's before we have the terrorism issues.

Fuck that if you come here and go to school you have to learn English. I came here in 87 at age 8 and attended the Newark public school system. I took ESL for 2 years but everything was in English. I sure as fuck didn't have anyone come in and teach me in Polish.
For fucks sake if you are in the school then you have a golden opportunity to learn the language and if you can't or won't then get the fuck back to where you came from.

[Z K]

Originally Posted by bbbbmw

Ummm.... under Obama, we had wide open borders. And these stupid programs to allow immigration from radicalized countries and regions, with little to no real vetting. And with 20% of Americans being foreign-born, we don't need any more until these can assimilate. Many public schools have to teach in over 100 foreign languages and dialects, and the public assistance dollars consumed far outweigh any taxes paid. And that's before we have the terrorism issues.

As usual, greatly exaggerated. Just because the majority of Americans don't share your point of view doesn't mean you need to make up things to compensate.

[bbbbmw]

Originally Posted by Z K

As usual, greatly exaggerated. Just because the majority of Americans don't share your point of view doesn't mean you need to make up things to compensate.

My error - 20% is the number of Americans who don't speak English in their homes, according to the census bureau.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cit...rticle/365255/

Percentage of immigrants is generally estimated at 13.9%, although no one knows, as illegals aren't tracked or estimated by government sources.

I'm not sure about the other 6.1%, as it would seem that Americans would speak English....

Atlanta public schools teach in 140 languages:

http://thechampionnewspaper.com/news...-on-diversity/

[Delta0311]

And speaking of Germany. Lets not forget this gem from Ma Merkel. This is priceless, shows how she feels about German sovereignty. Germany will soon be taken over by migrants.

[The Choosey begger]

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[The Choosey begger]

Originally Posted by Delta0311

And speaking of Germany. Lets not forget this gem from Ma Merkel. This is priceless, shows how she feels about German sovereignty. Germany will soon be taken over by migrants.

She's a real bitch!

[1 AKY]

Originally Posted by bbbbmw

My error - 20% is the number of Americans who don't speak English in their homes, according to the census bureau.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cit...rticle/365255/

Percentage of immigrants is generally estimated at 13.9%, although no one knows, as illegals aren't tracked or estimated by government sources.

I'm not sure about the other 6.1%, as it would seem that Americans would speak English....

Atlanta public schools teach in 140 languages:

http://thechampionnewspaper.com/news...-on-diversity/

Veering slightly off-Off-Topic, but aren?t all Americans immigrants (or ancestors were).....with the exception of the indigenous native ?Indians? ?

Or is it the usual case of ?might is right??

[Bups]

Originally Posted by 1 AKY

Veering slightly off-Off-Topic, but aren?t all Americans immigrants (or ancestors were).....with the exception of the indigenous native ?Indians? ?

Or is it the usual case of ?might is right??

No, everyone around the world are technically Americans on this blessed day. See Pangaea was a super continent dating back some 300 millions of years, when humans were gay fish frogs still evolving. Now, if we want to be technically technical, nobody really immigrated, our fish frog families just got broken up during the continental divide and evolved with geographical characteristics. It wasn't until later that boats were invented and sailors went off in search of new land or the edge of the earth (whichever came first), and stumbled upon their old gay fish frog relatives from 175 million years ago during the separation of Pangaea. But, because they'd been separated so long (like your long lost uncle you haven't seen since 1), they couldn't tell they were related at one point. And so naturally everyone got raped and killed and caused racial tensions and here we are today.

Oh, and Tom Cruise single-handedly caused prehistoric extinction. There's some documentaries about it.

[Hawkeye]

Originally Posted by 1 AKY

Veering slightly off-Off-Topic, but aren?t all Americans immigrants (or ancestors were).....with the exception of the indigenous native ?Indians? ?

Or is it the usual case of ?might is right??

See, we use first generation immigrant and immigrant as the same. Someone who came here legally and then had kids here legally, their kids are not considered immigrants unless they want to classify themselves as such. I'm sure there is a flow chart somewhere...

Aside from that, still no. The people that broke away from the tyrannical Brits and formed this country were not immigrants. They are not native to North America but they also did not immigrate to the United States, they created it.

[The Choosey begger]

Originally Posted by 1 AKY

Veering slightly off-Off-Topic, but aren?t all Americans immigrants (or ancestors were).....with the exception of the indigenous native ?Indians? ?

Or is it the usual case of ?might is right??

That's silly, Karachi-On-Thames is also a land of immigrants.


You have immigration laws, Right?

[davis449]

Originally Posted by 1 AKY

Veering slightly off-Off-Topic, but aren?t all Americans immigrants (or ancestors were).....with the exception of the indigenous native ?Indians? ?

Or is it the usual case of ?might is right??

A recent, thorough, investigation confirmed Siberian ancestry and traces of native Australian and Melanesian peoples in "Native Americans". So, what we've always thought true (that they came here over the land bridge that used to exist between modern day Siberia and Alaska some 12,000 years ago) has been proven. After they came here, they disseminated into tribal nations and killed and conquered one another as populations of men always have and will continue to do. So idiots who spout off shit like this really need to STFU. Europeans came, saw, and conquered. Later on, as countries took shape on this continent, the US gov. allowed large numbers in, as they saw fit, at times to build this country. Excluded from this are the African slaves and their descendants who were forceably brought here (after often being sold out by their own) and forced to help build. Now we're WAY beyond that period of time. What we need now is talented, productive, and skilled immigrants to significantly contribute to our country and its economy. We don't need anymore Uber drivers like this sorry fuck. The "talent pool" for that sector is already large enough. Likewise, we don't need scores of illegal immigrants spilling over our borders and sucking up our resources while they hide until someone grants them citizenship they didn't earn, as any effort made after breaking the law jumping the border is null and void. We have enough poor, desperate souls with citizenship living here already who deserve that attention and those resources.

[The Choosey begger]

..,

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by anglo

..,

Yes my friend , your pic shows the Belgian flag .
It's because *Ann-Laure Decadt* is back in Belgium , but in a coffin !

As you know here is the link to Ann => #169 http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...4#post22373294


May Ann RIP !

[Reborn_]

Originally Posted by bbbbmw

My error - 20% is the number of Americans who don't speak English in their homes, according to the census bureau.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cit...rticle/365255/

Percentage of immigrants is generally estimated at 13.9%, although no one knows, as illegals aren't tracked or estimated by government sources.

I'm not sure about the other 6.1%, as it would seem that Americans would speak English....

Atlanta public schools teach in 140 languages:

http://thechampionnewspaper.com/news...-on-diversity/

Speaking English in the home is a choice, and it doesn't mean that the 20% cannot speak English. Example: I was born in the US, and we did not speak English in my home. My whole family CAN speak English.

[YR430D]

Along with the shooting in Las Vegas - done by a white American not a jihadist or Moslem.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/05/us/tex...ing/index.html

[The Choosey begger]

Originally Posted by YR430D

Along with the shooting in Las Vegas - done by a white American not a jihadist or Moslem.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/05/us/tex...ing/index.html

What's your point? We also have white Americans that are child molesters, murderers , neo Nazis etc.

To come here you can't be part of a terrorist group, neo nazi or have a criminal record etc

It's nit yoyr right to come here, we filter who we want and that process isn't working.

[Z K]

Originally Posted by Delta0311

And speaking of Germany. Lets not forget this gem from Ma Merkel. This is priceless, shows how she feels about German sovereignty. Germany will soon be taken over by migrants.

Taken out of context, it is kind of weird... but from a german perspective waving the flag in such a situation is not common at all in Germany. Actually flag waving or openly showing patriotism is extremely rare and considered a bad thing in Germany except when it comes to supporting sports events. I know of only one other event in the recent history of germany were people openly waved the flag: the fall of the Berlin Wall. The kind of flag waving etc. like common for americans and many other countries is highly suspicious for most germans.

[bd307]

Watch some Russell Peters to lighten it up!

[The Choosey begger]

Originally Posted by Z K

Taken out of context, it is kind of weird... but from a german perspective waving the flag in such a situation is not common at all in Germany. Actually flag waving or openly showing patriotism is extremely rare and considered a bad thing in Germany except when it comes to supporting sports events. I know of only one other event in the recent history of germany were people openly waved the flag: the fall of the Berlin Wall. The kind of flag waving etc. like common for americans and many other countries is highly suspicious for most germans.