[Year's_End]

Originally Posted by BTM

Some of the stupidest things I've ever heard have come out the mouths of people that work at gyms.

your point being what

[BTM]

Originally Posted by Nikkahtropolis

your point being what

That you working in a gym does not validate your argument.

[Year's_End]

Originally Posted by radix

Actually, I've posted several scientific studies which show that meal frequency has nothing to do with weight loss.

Interesting. I guess all of the nutritionists I work with are wrong. Of course there's the basic rule that calories burned must exceed calories taken in, but they all instructed me to eat 5-7 meals a day spread out by 2-3 hour increments to increase my metabolism.

That first link was published recently, the last two articles came out in the '80s and '90s.

[Year's_End]

Originally Posted by BTM

That you working in a gym does not validate your argument.

Not saying it does, but getting information from people who are certified nutritionists and preach this kind of info on a daily basis seems like a credible source of info, wouldn't you say.

[radix]

Originally Posted by ragingclue

Sweet, do so please.

Also, please inform Arnold, so he can come out with a more accurate Encyclopedia. It could be the New New Encyclopedia. GD I love that book. Speaking of which, today was my first day back in the gym in 1.5 years. Back is all healed up and ready to go....

Fuck, it hurts.

http://www.medicinenet.com/script/ma...ticlekey=56254

In a recent American Journal of Clinical Nutrition editorial, a team of nutrition researchers concluded that whether you are practicing the "three" or "six" meal daily dietary pattern, weight loss ultimately comes down to "how much energy (or calories) is consumed as opposed to how often or how regularly one eats."

So given the tried-and-true equation for weight maintenance: Calories "in" = Calories "out," what this really boils down to is whether eating five or six small meals a day truly helps us to:

Burn more total calories at the end of the day
Eat fewer total calories at the end of the day

As far as increasing the calories we burn, "The only thing that has been consistently shown to increase BMR is exercise," says Vicki Sullivan, PhD, RD, LD, national lecturer and president of Balance, LLC. Sullivan agrees that eating every three hours would certainly help some people control appetite and feel more energized, but she also believes that everyone is different. "I have clients who find that they gain weight when they eat more frequently, or some simply cannot eat every three hours due to job constraints."

Also, this:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/23/he...pagewanted=all

quoting this:


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16526835

Both groups lost significant and equivalent amounts of weight. There was no difference between them in fat loss, appetite control or measurements of hormones that signal hunger and satiety. Other studies have had similar results.

So I guess I was wrong, in terms of satiety, it doesn't matter, however some articles I've read on the subject written by medical professionals and scientists seem to indicate that the three meal plan has a couple of advantages:

1. Less chances to overeat.
2. Larger meals are more "filling".


The study quote above though basically says that as far as appetite goes it doesn't matter, and I suspect it would come down to individual preference.

[Year's_End]

Originally Posted by radix

http://www.medicinenet.com/script/ma...ticlekey=56254



Also, this:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/23/he...pagewanted=all

quoting this:


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16526835



So I guess I was wrong, in terms of satiety, it doesn't matter, however some articles I've read on the subject written by medical professionals and scientists seem to indicate that the three meal plan has a couple of advantages:

1. Less chances to overeat.
2. Larger meals are more "filling".


The study quote above though basically says that as far as appetite goes it doesn't matter, and I suspect it would come down to individual preference.

Yeah I just did some googling myself as well. Gonna have to go share these articles with my employees. Thanks for the links.

[BTM]

Originally Posted by Nikkahtropolis

Not saying it does, but getting information from people who are certified nutritionists and preach this kind of info on a daily basis seems like a credible source of info, wouldn't you say.

Apparently not

Don't mind me just trollin' dude nothin to see here

[ghosthi32]

Btm turned in to a troll...

[BTM]

Yea I've been waiting for a phone call for over an hour now wtf

[BTM]

Just got it I can finally go home peace out

[Quick6EF]

Originally Posted by Nikkahtropolis

Not saying it does, but getting information from people who are certified nutritionists and preach this kind of info on a daily basis seems like a credible source of info, wouldn't you say.

I think that radix helped my point some more with the facts - which I appreciate.

The fact is, it is difficult for many to cram their daily cals into large meals (due to fullness), others there may not be an issue - that is why many have spread their meals out.


Please see the following all on meal frequency:



http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1905998

Eur J Clin Nutr. 1991 Mar;45(3):161-9.Links
Influence of the feeding frequency on nutrient utilization in man: consequences for energy metabolism.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11319656

Int J Obes Relat Metab Disord. 2001 Apr;25(4):519-28.Links
Compared with nibbling, neither gorging nor a morning fast affect short-term energy balance in obese patients in a chamber calorimeter.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1...ubmed/18053311

Br J Nutr. 2008 Jun;99(6):1316-21. Epub 2007 Dec 6. Links
Acute effects on metabolism and appetite profile of one meal difference in the lower range of meal frequency.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9155494

Br J Nutr. 1997 Apr;77 Suppl 1:S57-70. Links
Meal frequency and energy balance.


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10578205

Int J Obes Relat Metab Disord. 1999 Nov;23(11):1151-9.Links
Acute appetite reduction associated with an increased frequency of eating in obese males.

(from above article):
RESULTS: When given a SINGLE pre-load, 27% more (t=2.651; P<0.05) energy was consumed in the ad libitum test meal (5261+/-1289 kJ) compared to that eaten after the MULTI pre-load (3763+/-1986 kJ). This increase in food intake occurred despite no significant change in subjective hunger ratings. Over the 315 min pre-load period, peak insulin concentrations were significantly higher (F6,72=7.95, P<0.01) on the SINGLE treatment (171.2+/-129.8 microU ml-1) than on the MULTI treatment (133.7+/-70.2 microU ml-1). Serum insulin remained elevated for longer on the MULTI meal treatment, resulting in no difference in the area under the insulin curves between the two feeding treatments. There was a positive correlation (r=0.87) between the amount of energy consumed at lunch and insulin concentration before lunch in the SINGLE group. However, this relationship was not apparent when subjects were given the MULTI meal preload.

[Razzy]

Razzle Dazzle to the rescue!! Saving one thread at a time...from derailment.



this pic is over 2 years old.

[Tondtar]

Originally Posted by Razzy

this pic is over 2 years old.

Wow! ...You don't look a day younger than your newer pics. Must be the good genes

[ghosthi32]

Originally Posted by Razzy

Razzle Dazzle to the rescue!! Saving one thread at a time...from derailment.
this pic is over 2 years old.

fail

[Razzy]

Originally Posted by Tondtar

Wow! ...You don't look a day younger than your newer pics. Must be the good genes

Originally Posted by ghosthi32

fail

why's that?

[Year's_End]

Originally Posted by Razzy

Razzle Dazzle to the rescue!! Saving one thread at a time...from derailment.



this pic is over 2 years old.

I'd be impressed if you actually had a pic without a helmet on.

[DougLikesBMW]

Why was Javi banned?

Also people talking about diet and timing and that mess look up the Warrior Diet.

Also who wants to attempt to remove the distortion from skinnycow's pic?

[ghosthi32]

WTF javi is banned...

who reported him...snitches

[Tondtar]

Originally Posted by Nikkahtropolis

I'd be impressed if you actually had a pic without a helmet on.

May be he does not have a head

Originally Posted by DougLikesBMW

Why was Javi banned?

Also who wants to attempt to remove the distortion from skinnycow's pic?

1. Happens to all good looking Mediterraneans around here. Watch Out!!!

2. You don't need to remove distortion from her pic. Just visit her account page

Originally Posted by ghosthi32

WTF javi is banned...

who reported him...snitches

No one. He self ignited the fire that burned him.

[ghosthi32]

damn oh wellz

[BTM]

meh good riddance

[ghosthi32]

Originally Posted by BTM

meh good riddance

stfu noob