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Based on other pics, I guess there will be a number of choices regarding the design of the front (i.e. the base model won't be much to look at, however the upper models will have a satisfactory front, whereas the M-models will be nice). |
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In other words, just shut the fuck up. |
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A new model usually has a coordinates market introduction several months after production starts, so that the factory can build the HEA (dealer) cars and press can do test drives etc. This will likely be the case here as well.
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I am shooketh. Never thought I'd ever be lumped with others as a "tried and true F'Boi with an ostentatious Java Green BMW (G05 X5 45e) for positive attention" when I purchased it.
I wonder who the comment was aimed at for their ostentatious Java Green BMW, but oh well, ggill1313 is banned now so not like it matters now. |
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06-12-2024, 03:41 PM | #252 |
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I don't recall ever seeing it work that way. In NA, at least, once production begins they are for customer ordered vehicles as well as any Priority 3 orders for dealers.
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06-12-2024, 05:11 PM | #253 | |
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BMW lost a G80 sale on me because of the hideous grill. I'm hoping this ice X3 comes through in the looks department!
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06-12-2024, 05:31 PM | #254 | |
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That's the only design element that is sticking out as being obnoxious. Although the really older BMWs had vertical grill designs, I think horizontal ones look so much better. Lexus and Audi have really big grill designs so it's really either go big or go home but even Acura has already kinda perfected its pentagonal design where BMW is moving towards the wrong direction. I wouldn't let a grill design stand in the way of a $30,000 car purchase but for a $50,000 or more luxury vehicle, we expect elegance, both inside and out. |
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https://www.bimmerfile.com/2024/01/1...r-14-for-2023/
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Strongly disagree. The interior is lightyears better than existing as is the front end. I’d agree that the rear is a downgrade. Even so, even the current Macan is better than any X3 new or old. After switching to a 24’ Cayenne S from 5 consecutive BMWs (last one was a 21’ X5MC) I can attest the price premium is justified when upgrading to Porsche in the same segment.
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I can't buy an ugly car as I keep mine for 8+ years. I must fall in love with the looks first and foremost.
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I do like the verricle orientation of them. Something different is good. But my god man tone them down a little. A 30% reduction would be pretty great. It's akin to putting braces on a super model with crooked teeth. She may be the full package...until she smiles... Editing this post to say I don't want to detract this discussion from the new X3. I'm just really sour on BMW lately because I loved my prior M3 and was very excited to replace it with the new one....until I saw it. Now that the new M3 is off the list this X3 is my only hope for sticking with the brand. Please please PLEASE don't uglify the X3 BMW!
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TBH I prefer the F95 X5MC's horizontal grill slats in this one G45 view available to us now - 'less is more' seems an apt phrase here IMHO... |
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Also, the Macan ICEV only has brake-based torque vectoring whereas the X3 M40i/M50 can be optioned with the M Sport Differential. So although the Macan ICEV will handle much better and have a more comfortable ride, I would assume the X3 with M Sport Differential will prove to be superior when driving in inclement weather. I live in Toronto, Ontario, Canada where we rarely experience torrential rain but have 3.5 months of potential snow and ice to contend with. Even the Macan 4 cannot be optioned with PTV Plus so I think in terms of poor weather performance, an X3 with TVD will win hands down. We don't even drive anywhere near 6/10 of what the M40i is capable of (so maybe 4/10 on a Macan S ) We did withdraw our deposit on a Macan 4 because it was too pricey even with the limited options we put in and because after having done more research this year, I think battery chemistry/technology isn't here yet. 2028 onward would usher in better batteries with fewer degradation pathways. When batteries last 16 years easily, then these >$80,000 BEV purchases will be justifiable in my household. Update: Strange, I guess Porsche Canada updated the PTV Plus (1Y1) description on the Macan ICEV. It's now the active torque vectoring type. Earlier this year, the configurator described it as brake-based torque vectoring. Last edited by internalaudit; 06-13-2024 at 04:14 PM.. |
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Regardless of how much I dislike the looks (digitally) of the new G45 I would be surprised if it ends up being a huge step backwards in the looks department up close and in person. Time shall tell. With this said, I really dislike everything I am seeing so far. The flattened
wheels arches, the goofy vertical slat grill, all the chrome, the increase in size…for me nothing hits a home run so far. Even if the new G45 pulls even with a Porsche Macan in the handling department which it won’t I still don’t see myself buying one, based on these pics. Also, all BMW leases and discounts have gotten dramatically worse post Covid. The value proposition has really changed. A new M50 will price out over $70K and you can bet BMW will mostly be selling these at full MSRP, making the gap between a reasonably sped’d 2025 Macan S $15K.
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