918 beats the P1 again

hellrotm · 03-24-2015, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ShocknAwe

How is the LFA overrated? Overpriced sure. Those two descriptors are pretty close to being entirely separate to me.

Now, if you meant the RC-F, I would totally agree with you. That car is both overpriced AND overrated.

Second...not third.

As far as getting into the overrated or over hyped debate, well that has been covered/debated on here many times.

ShocknAwe · 03-24-2015, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackJetE90

Second...not third.

What are you talking about.

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Originally Posted by BlackJetE90

As far as getting into the overrated or over hyped debate, well that has been covered/debated on here many times.

Uh huh.

AW335TT · 03-24-2015, 02:55 PM

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Ok buddy..

He basically described his dream car (LFA) in the second sentence of his post.

I guess with a comment like that it's safe to assume he's driven a F40, F50, 355, 360, 360CS, 430, 430 Scuderia, Enzo, Italia, 458 Speciale, 599 GTO, LaFerrari and all the XX cars, and was extremely let down by all of them... Almost as much as he was let down by the Tesla.

BMW269 · 03-24-2015, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by AW335TT

I guess with a comment like that it's safe to assume he's driven a F40, F50, 355, 360, 360CS, 430, 430 Scuderia, Enzo, Italia, 458 Speciale, 599 GTO, LaFerrari and all the XX cars, and was extremely let down by all of them... Almost as much as he was let down by the Tesla.

Yep, and I prefer the Alfa Romeo 8C or 4C over Ferrari.

Vigilante375 · 03-24-2015, 03:20 PM

LFA? Not even on the list of cars I would want to see or own. Its a waste of time and money. Even if Lexus gave the car to me with a warranty that covers everything while I own the car, I wouldn't take them up on their offer. I'd rather have a FRS/BRZ.

AW335TT · 03-24-2015, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Levi

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Originally Posted by AW335TT

I guess with a comment like that it's safe to assume he's driven a F40, F50, 355, 360, 360CS, 430, 430 Scuderia, Enzo, Italia, 458 Speciale, 599 GTO, LaFerrari and all the XX cars, and was extremely let down by all of them... Almost as much as he was let down by the Tesla.

Yep, and I prefer the Alfa Romeo 8C or 4C over Ferrari.

Good for you.

NickyC · 03-24-2015, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Vigilante375

LFA? Not even on the list of cars I would want to see or own. Its a waste of time and money. Even if Lexus gave the car to me with a warranty that covers everything while I own the car, I wouldn't take them up on their offer. I'd rather have a FRS/BRZ.

Wat

AW335TT · 03-24-2015, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Vigilante375

LFA? Not even on the list of cars I would want to see or own. Its a waste of time and money. Even if Lexus gave the car to me with a warranty that covers everything while I own the car, I wouldn't take them up on their offer. I'd rather have a FRS/BRZ.

Lol. The front is ugly as shit, but that's a little extreme.

gonzo · 03-24-2015, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Vigilante375

LFA? Not even on the list of cars I would want to see or own. Its a waste of time and money. Even if Lexus gave the car to me with a warranty that covers everything while I own the car, I wouldn't take them up on their offer. I'd rather have a FRS/BRZ.

Slowly, put the pipe and lighter down and put your hands against the wall.

SunnyD · 03-24-2015, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Vigilante375

LFA? Not even on the list of cars I would want to see or own. Its a waste of time and money. Even if Lexus gave the car to me with a warranty that covers everything while I own the car, I wouldn't take them up on their offer. I'd rather have a FRS/BRZ.

Wow...speechless.

BMW269 · 03-24-2015, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Vigilante375

LFA? Not even on the list of cars I would want to see or own. Its a waste of time and money. Even if Lexus gave the car to me with a warranty that covers everything while I own the car, I wouldn't take them up on their offer. I'd rather have a FRS/BRZ.

Congrats!! You beat me at trolling.

Vigilante375 · 03-24-2015, 04:39 PM

Lol, people don't think I'm serious. The LFA is a waste and a ugly design. Only thing that looks neat is the center armrest. Not trolling but being serious.

A lower priced 458 will smack a LFA around.

hellrotm · 03-24-2015, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ShocknAwe

What are you talking about.

The original post of mine you quoted.

hellrotm · 03-24-2015, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Vigilante375

A lower priced 458 will smack a LFA around.

If Ferrari is overrated, Levi's LFA must be a bag of turds.

Ferrari's entry level base car out laps LFA at just about any track. (when done by independent testing)

458 - Autocar Dry Handling Track 1:08.90
LFA - Autocar Dry Handling Track 1:11.60

458 - Hockenheim Short 1:09.70
LFA - Hockenheim Short 1:11.00

458 - Circuit de Nevers Magny-Cours Club 1:20.16
LFA - Circuit de Nevers Magny-Cours Club 1:20.64

458 - Laguna Seca (Motor Trend) 1:36.22
LFA - Laguna Seca (Motor Trend) 1:36.39

458 - SportAuto wet handling test 1:33.60
LFA - SportAuto wet handling test 1:35.50

458 - Nordschleife Full (Sport Auto) 7:32.92
LFA - Nordschleife Full (Sport Auto) 7:38.85

458 - Balocco 2:43.90
LFA - Balocco 2:48.52

458 - VIR (C/D Lightning Lap) 2:49.90
LFA - VIR (C/D Lightning Lap) 2:55.10

SunnyD · 03-24-2015, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Vigilante375

Lol, people don't think I'm serious. The LFA is a waste and a ugly design. Only thing that looks neat is the center armrest. Not trolling but being serious.

A lower priced 458 will smack a LFA around.

If you ever acquire an LFA for free, I got dibs. I'll gladly buy a brand new FRS and trade you straight up.

BMW269 · 03-24-2015, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackJetE90

If Ferrari is overrated, Levi's LFA must be a bag of turds.

Ferrari's entry level base car out laps LFA at just about any track. (when done by independent testing)

458 - Autocar Dry Handling Track 1:08.90
LFA - Autocar Dry Handling Track 1:11.60

458 - Hockenheim Short 1:09.70
LFA - Hockenheim Short 1:11.00

458 - Circuit de Nevers Magny-Cours Club 1:20.16
LFA - Circuit de Nevers Magny-Cours Club 1:20.64

458 - Laguna Seca (Motor Trend) 1:36.22
LFA - Laguna Seca (Motor Trend) 1:36.39

458 - SportAuto wet handling test 1:33.60
LFA - SportAuto wet handling test 1:35.50

458 - Nordschleife Full (Sport Auto) 7:32.92
LFA - Nordschleife Full (Sport Auto) 7:38.85

458 - Balocco 2:43.90
LFA - Balocco 2:48.52

458 - VIR (C/D Lightning Lap) 2:49.90
LFA - VIR (C/D Lightning Lap) 2:55.10

Put on them he same tires, the LFA will be faster, and yet LFA is heavier, has less torque and slower transmission.

LFA is of high quality and reliable, Ferrari is plastic, breaks down and burns.

Can't wait to see the new NSX rape the 488 GTB.

ShocknAwe · 03-24-2015, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackJetE90

The original post of mine you quoted.

LOL gotcha. I think I need to learn to count. 1, 2, 10.

Year's_End · 03-24-2015, 07:06 PM

Trying to rationalize an LFA using a set of spec sheet numbers, lap times, or performance data is missing the point of it altogether. It's a masterpiece of emotional engineering.

Come on; it's like the ultimate FM/RR car! It's got one of the best sounding engines in history that revs to the moon. It makes enough power to have fun. It's got a great weight distribution; a fun driving position where you're nearly sitting on the rear axle; a transmission that's visceral more than it is efficient; it's basically the epiphany of a high-strung, front-engined, RWD driver's car.

It's a shame that it gets overshadowed because it just doesn't put up the numbers that people have grown to expect. Forget the numbers. I bet anyone that drives one would hop out with a smile plastered on their face just as big as if they got out of some other competitive car.

AW335TT · 03-24-2015, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Year's_End

Trying to rationalize an LFA using a set of spec sheet numbers, lap times, or performance data is missing the point of it altogether. It's a masterpiece of emotional engineering.

Come on; it's like the ultimate FM/RR car! It's got one of the best sounding engines in history that revs to the moon. It makes enough power to have fun. It's got a great weight distribution; a fun driving position where you're nearly sitting on the rear axle; a transmission that's visceral more than it is efficient; it's basically the epiphany of a high-strung, front-engined, RWD driver's car.

It's a shame that it gets overshadowed because it just doesn't put up the numbers that people have grown to expect. Forget the numbers. I bet anyone that drives one would hop out with a smile plastered on their face just as big as if they got out of some other competitive car.

599 GTO and F12

BMW269 · 03-25-2015, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by AW335TT

599 GTO and F12

LFA is faster than 599 GTO, is of better build quality and more reliable. F12 is overpowered, made of Fiat plastic and is really ugly.

AW335TT · 03-25-2015, 10:40 AM

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599 GTO and F12

LFA is faster than 599 GTO, is of better build quality and more reliable. F12 is overpowered, made of Fiat plastic and is really ugly.

LFA is a Toyota and is one of the ugliest cars ever made. Gives the Pontiac Aztec a run for its money.

AW335TT · 03-25-2015, 10:41 AM

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599 GTO and F12

LFA is faster than 599 GTO, is of better build quality and more reliable. F12 is overpowered, made of Fiat plastic and is really ugly.

Lol but now I know your trolling. I refuse to believe someone as dumb as you can exist.

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