[sygazelle]

Originally Posted by GOLFFRR

This may be outside the box but have you looked into the Mini Cooper all wheel drive SUVs? there pretty sporty and priced really nicely. I drove one for a while as a demo it was fun!

Mini is not outside the box, it IS the box

[GOLFFRR]

Originally Posted by sygazelle

Mini is not outside the box, it IS the box

lol nice! Serious note though, I love those cars!

[mike@tpc]

CPO Macan

[Alfisti]

WHat size? Seriously without this we're guessing.

[CirrusSR22]

The Macan is a nice SUV to drive but terrible if you need the cargo space of a typical SUV. Behind the 2nd row it's much smaller than even a Focus hatch or VW Golf.

[Nitrousbird]

Used Porsche Cayenne Turbo.

[Ali Shiralian]

Originally Posted by RowanBuds

Don't know if a cvt would be a deal breaker but I've been very happy with our new forester xt, excepting it could use better feedback/response from the brakes. Alternatively the sq5 is a great call above. And I'd even say check out the cayenne--most comfortable SUV I've been in.

I agree, my Forester is a beast in snow up here in Canada. Neither my X5 nor my 335 Xdrive were able to do what the Forester did last winter and jet me tell you it was one hell of a winter. 40 year old records were broken and we still had snow on the ground up to two weeks ago. I'm a believer in Subaru now. Before I had a 2010 Toyota 4Runner and although it was very caplable as well, never was as sure footed as the Forester. Btw all cars have snow tires in winter, it's a must up here.

[Ali Shiralian]

Originally Posted by M3Fanatics

Even tho I drove my M3 during the winter here in Ontario and it was really good with winter tires, I would strongly recommend the Audi SQ5 it's a beast and really fun to drive, would much rather have it over my x5 if it wasn't for the size.

How about the Q7?

[1MOREMOD]

Consider and x5d used and save some dough.

[sygazelle]

I know you said you don't want two BMWs in the garage, but you should look at an X3 3.5. They get great reviews and the performance is not shabby at all. If you do not want to look too BMWee, just slap an AMG badge on it and your good to go.

[mike@tpc]

Originally Posted by Nitrousbird

Used Porsche Cayenne Turbo.

oh yeah, 1st gen Cayennes are dirt cheap and seriously tough.

[1MOREMOD]

Originally Posted by mike@tpc

oh yeah, 1st gen Cayennes are dirt cheap and seriously tough.

And less appealing than a Subaru Forrester

[M3Fanatics]

Originally Posted by Ali Shiralian

How about the Q7?

Q7 is really nice too I owned one back in 2010, driving wise the SQ5 is on another level tho, Q7 is a bit boring to drive I hope they fixed that with the new model.

[DocWeatherington]

Originally Posted by 04cobra

So my wife is taking over the explorer sport, once I get the M3 in July. I will need a new car to be capable of driving in the winter. I am pretty set on having another SUV, since I have a family and haul around stuff. I was thinking of either a Jeep SRT8 or a Durango R/T. My budget is around 55-60k. I live in Minnesota so winter is a big concern (i.e. most likely want AWD).

Just trying to get some other ideas. Car must be somewhat performance oriented. Probably would not go for another BMW, I like to have a variety of manufacturers in my garage.

JNoSol

He is right, I am not Canadian but I drive my M3 in the snow. An use the OEM rims with snows, no issues no fear of getting stuck. Just don't expect it to be a Jeep.

In no order,

Expedition, Sequoia, Q56 or the GM Twins

[DocWeatherington]

Originally Posted by Ali Shiralian

I agree, my Forester is a beast in snow up here in Canada. Neither my X5 nor my 335 Xdrive were able to do what the Forester did last winter and jet me tell you it was one hell of a winter. 40 year old records were broken and we still had snow on the ground up to two weeks ago. I'm a believer in Subaru now. Before I had a 2010 Toyota 4Runner and although it was very caplable as well, never was as sure footed as the Forester. Btw all cars have snow tires in winter, it's a must up here.

I like you but I hate them.. Subaru

[04cobra]

Thanks for all the responses, to address a few

1. Don't need to save money, want something nice that I can enjoy in the winter, that still has some get up and go, that isn't the M3

2. I like the Macan's, but can you even get a used one yet? Didn't they JUST come out?

3. How badly would people kill me if I bought a C63 as my winter car. I am looking for more of a straight line car, with an automatic

[Ali Shiralian]

Originally Posted by DocWeatherington

I like you but I hate them.. Subaru

Lol, I'm not particularly in love with the design or looks of the Subie either, but the combination of the symmetrical AWD and the boxer engine (low centre of gravity), makes it ideal for snow

[Ali Shiralian]

Originally Posted by 04cobra

Thanks for all the responses, to address a few

1. Don't need to save money, want something nice that I can enjoy in the winter, that still has some get up and go, that isn't the M3

2. I like the Macan's, but can you even get a used one yet? Didn't they JUST come out?

3. How badly would people kill me if I bought a C63 as my winter car. I am looking for more of a straight line car, with an automatic

Subaru Forester XT ! 270 hp, 0-60 in 6 seconds.

[GlobalScientist]

Any Audi, but if you like to lug stuff, get the wagon versions.

[Meeni]

I got a Mazda cx5, it's not a race car but it is a nice daily, cost about 1/2 of the options you proposed and is nice inside and out if you buy one of the higher trims. The infotainment is one of the best if you buy a MY 16.

[happos2]

Originally Posted by 04cobra

Thanks for all the responses, to address a few

1. Don't need to save money, want something nice that I can enjoy in the winter, that still has some get up and go, that isn't the M3

2. I like the Macan's, but can you even get a used one yet? Didn't they JUST come out?

3. How badly would people kill me if I bought a C63 as my winter car. I am looking for more of a straight line car, with an automatic

Now you trolling? 180 degree turn from your original post. I like the C63, would own one...but how is that different than the M3 in the winter? In actuality, it is worse in the snow and can even be twitchy in the rain.

[M.Power]

Originally Posted by happos2

Now you trolling? 180 degree turn from your original post. I like the C63, would own one...but how is that different than the M3 in the winter? In actuality, it is worse in the snow and can even be twitchy in the rain.

He can treat the C63 like crap and not worry about it, that's the difference