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      04-18-2020, 01:18 AM   #23
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Knew the day would come where we'd need masks in the US,
was follwing all the data out of china and other Asian countries

I am a clothing designer, i started this company, making masks seven weeks ago
https://5mmask.com/

If im allowed to toot my horn,some of the most stylish, versatile and well fitting masks on the market

5M is M5, and the fact that the letter M has 5 points to it.
We are doing well, and was featured on Yahoo after having a virtual press conference with the Brooklyn Borough president Eric Adams, who also wears our masks


https://news.yahoo.com/brooklyn-mask...171458639.html
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This is my sons's mask when we go out. We get the best reactions from people.
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I have a construction-style solution that I wouldn't seriously wear around in public. I bought it months ago for a renovation, but I made this picture my Microsoft Teams profile picture. Lol
I have one like this for when I am airbrushing. I also recently shaved my head for the first time.




In public I use a standard white hank.
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Knew the day would come where we'd need masks in the US,
was follwing all the data out of china and other Asian countries

I am a clothing designer, i started this company, making masks seven weeks ago
https://5mmask.com/

If im allowed to toot my horn,some of the most stylish, versatile and well fitting masks on the market

5M is M5, and the fact that the letter M has 5 points to it.
We are doing well, and was featured on Yahoo after having a virtual press conference with the Brooklyn Borough president Eric Adams, who also wears our masks


https://news.yahoo.com/brooklyn-mask...171458639.html
I remember your post. You actually listed your car for sale to fund this.

I hope you and anyone on here that maybe helped you in your venture are doing well.
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Whats the point of the mask if I don't cough, don't sneeze, and practice social distancing?
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Business as usual here. It makes me mad when government feels special and responsible for
telling us shit we already should be doing from young age. I washed my hands, cover my mouth not only when coughing and sneezing but when yawning as well. keeping distance don't start me with this shit.
Nothing makes me more mad when I'm in store and people literally reach over my fucking head to get box of cereal and No I'm not short I'm 6.3.
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I remember your post. You actually listed your car for sale to fund this.

I hope you and anyone on here that maybe helped you in your venture are doing well.
Yep,
but my wife begged me not to sell the car and actually gave me some money to start the project.
we had spoken to 5 investors who loved the project but just was talking a load of crap. I knew I had to move quick.
the project allowed us to hire 3 new people and fund everything with the revenue coming from it.

several people interested in investing now, but im NOT interested. too late...…..

we donate a lot of them, its doing incredibly well
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Whats the point of the mask if I don't cough, don't sneeze, and practice social distancing?
to protect you (and by extension those you interact with) when you are exposed to someone who does the things you listed that you dont
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Whats the point of the mask if I don't cough, don't sneeze, and practice social distancing?
Wearing a mask help reduce the risk of exposure from OTHER people sneezing. The virus doesn't die at 6ft and 1 in. 6ft is just an acceptable risk when we are out in public.

Wearing a mask reduced the risk of you touching your face after touching a door handle, shopping cart etc.

Wearing a mask reduces the risk of exposing others even if you asymptomatic. You are still contagious if you are asymptomatic. The mask reduces the risk of you touching your mouth then touching a door handle, shopping cart etc.

Here's a logic bomb: if wearing a mask reduces risk and not wearing a mask increases risk, what are the downsides of wearing a mask?
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I could not find any good quality mask in nearby by shops, so decided to stitch by myself...
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Same here...
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I dont wear anything as Im not really concerned, but I saw a dude wearing a garbage bag over himself in a parking lot last week. Didnt see any airholes, but it aint my business if he doesnt think he needs those.
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to protect you (and by extension those you interact with) when you are exposed to someone who does the things you listed that you dont
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Wearing a mask help reduce the risk of exposure from OTHER people sneezing. The virus doesn't die at 6ft and 1 in. 6ft is just an acceptable risk when we are out in public.

Wearing a mask reduced the risk of you touching your face after touching a door handle, shopping cart etc.

Wearing a mask reduces the risk of exposing others even if you asymptomatic. You are still contagious if you are asymptomatic. The mask reduces the risk of you touching your mouth then touching a door handle, shopping cart etc.

Here's a logic bomb: if wearing a mask reduces risk and not wearing a mask increases risk, what are the downsides of wearing a mask?
You must have FFP2 or FFP3 mask in order to protect yourself, anything else offers zero protection. WHO doesn't even recommend wearing those because of the shortage and because you really must always be in close contact with virus in order benefit from such protection.
Previously WHO didn't recommend any masks because incorrect use actually spreads virus. Basically what you described is the Incorrect use, you can't touch mask because that just spread virus everywhere on everything you touch. Every time I go to stores, I see many people who have zero clue how to properly use one. So touching face doesn't spread virus, you must be touching mouth and nose area. Touching mask thats been soaked will spread, and thats what most do because it's not comfortable, itching, etc.

I dont touch my face, period. And I wash my hands, there is no need for gloves either.

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You must have FFP2 or FFP3 mask in order to protect yourself, anything else offers zero protection. WHO doesn't even recommend wearing those because of the shortage and because you really must always be in close contact with virus in order benefit from such protection.
Previously WHO didn't recommend any masks because incorrect use actually spreads virus. Basically what you described is the Incorrect use, you can't touch mask because that just spread virus everywhere on everything you touch. Every time I go to stores, I see many people who have zero clue how to properly use one. So touching face doesn't spread virus, you must be touching mouth and nose area. Touching mask thats been soaked will spread, and thats what most do because it's not comfortable, itching, etc.

I dont touch my face, period. And I wash my hands, there is no need for gloves either.
Rubbish, and I don't want to get too controversial because I have resigned in my mind to leave people and let the be stupid if they want to be.

In another place I TOLD people they were gonna need masks, because the science PROVES that masks help to slow the virus, even non medical masks

I told people the surgeon general was wrong, and that all the people at WHO the CDC and the Surgeon general were reckless and should be held accountable for reckless endangerment of peoples lives.

I had friends who were doctors who said how dare challenge the knowledge of the surgeon general, I began to ask them as doctors, questions they could not answer, as the parroted the statements made by the SG.

I told them over 7 weeks ago that the SG will have to come back and reverse course when this shit starts to hit the fan...……….He had to do exactly that, and all the media outlets parroting his statements had to change course.

I don't have the time now, but I suggest YOU DO YOUR RESEARCH and stop talking rubbish

Seatbelts don't stop accidents, nor do they completely stop you from being injured, yet is LAW that you wear them when driving

Lots o people don't know how to wash their hands properly, yet its encouraged and we have videos etc showing how to properly do it

the idea that people don't know how to wear masks properly is another bullshit propaganda. If they don't know, promote how to do it properly. and as a mask maker, there is nothing complicated or difficult in wearing a masks

the issue I have is that makers need to use the right kind of materials, and they need to know how to cut and construct a masks so that it fits properly, is comfortable to the user and that is does what its intended to do.

the masks we make at 5MMask, most of them are backed with POLYPROPYLENE, the same material used to make an N95. you can use even the filters used in Vacuum cleaners, as a filtration piece in a cloth masks and anything above merv 13 offers BETTER protection than an N95.

I dare you to prove that other masks offer Zero Protection, you are WRONG and I dare you to demonstrate the factuality of your argument.

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... what are the downsides of wearing a mask?
False sense of protection

Sheep mentality

Inability to research, analyze information, think critically

Another thing that crazies unite around and ostracize 'others'

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Does the mask help slow the virus, yes, because people cough, sneeze, and don't follow social distancing etc.
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to protect you (and by extension those you interact with) when you are exposed to someone who does the things you listed that you dont
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Wearing a mask help reduce the risk of exposure from OTHER people sneezing. The virus doesn't die at 6ft and 1 in. 6ft is just an acceptable risk when we are out in public.

Wearing a mask reduced the risk of you touching your face after touching a door handle, shopping cart etc.

Wearing a mask reduces the risk of exposing others even if you asymptomatic. You are still contagious if you are asymptomatic. The mask reduces the risk of you touching your mouth then touching a door handle, shopping cart etc.

Here's a logic bomb: if wearing a mask reduces risk and not wearing a mask increases risk, what are the downsides of wearing a mask?
You must have FFP2 or FFP3 mask in order to protect yourself, anything else offers zero protection. WHO doesn't even recommend wearing those because of the shortage and because you really must always be in close contact with virus in order benefit from such protection.
Previously WHO didn't recommend any masks because incorrect use actually spreads virus. Basically what you described is the Incorrect use, you can't touch mask because that just spread virus everywhere on everything you touch. Every time I go to stores, I see many people who have zero clue how to properly use one. So touching face doesn't spread virus, you must be touching mouth and nose area. Touching mask thats been soaked will spread, and thats what most do because it's not comfortable, itching, etc.

I dont touch my face, period. And I wash my hands, there is no need for gloves either.
The improper use of the masks is still less likely to spread the virus than no mask at all. Even if people are touching their masks then transferring the virus to common objects, it is still preferable than airborne particles that are less discriminate.

In the end the best practice is to reduce exposure through social distancing and washing your hands.
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... what are the downsides of wearing a mask?
False sense of protection

Sheep mentality

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Another thing that crazies unite around and ostracize 'others'

Sorry, I have immediate family in the medical field including nurses and doctors. I'll trust the professionals who are at risk daily and have the most experience over what people on the internet say.
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Rubbish, and I don't want to get too controversial because I have resigned in my mind to leave people and let the be stupid if they want to be.

In another place I TOLD people they were gonna need masks, because the science PROVES that masks help to slow the virus, even non medical masks

I told people the surgeon general was wrong, and that all the people at WHO the CDC and the Surgeon general were reckless and should be held accountable for reckless endangerment of peoples lives.

I had friends who were doctors who said how dare challenge the knowledge of the surgeon general, I began to ask them as doctors, questions they could not answer, as the parroted the statements made by the SG.

I told them over 7 weeks ago that the SG will have to come back and reverse course when this shit starts to hit the fan...……….He had to do exactly that, and all the media outlets parroting his statements had to change course.

I don't have the time now, but I suggest YOU DO YOUR RESEARCH and stop talking rubbish

Seatbelts don't stop accidents, nor do they completely stop you from being injured, yet is LAW that you wear them when driving

Lots o people don't know how to wash their hands properly, yet its encouraged and we have videos etc showing how to properly do it

the idea that people don't know how to wear masks properly is another bullshit propaganda. If they don't know, promote how to do it properly. and as a mask maker, there is nothing complicated or difficult in wearing a masks

the issue I have is that makers need to use the right kind of materials, and they need to know how to cut and construct a masks so that it fits properly, is comfortable to the user and that is does what its intended to do.

the masks we make at 5MMask, most of them are backed with POLYPROPYLENE, the same material used to make an N95. you can use even the filters used in Vacuum cleaners, as a filtration piece in a cloth masks and anything above merv 13 offers BETTER protection than an N95.

I dare you to prove that other masks offer Zero Protection, you are WRONG and I dare you to demonstrate the factuality of your argument.
I am pretty sure its a fact that surgical masks don't offer virus protection. I dont need to prove that, it's already been proven. That's why so many nurses get infected and refuse to work without FFP2/3 mask. Whether its 0% protection or 10%, i don't know and no one does, so it goes as they don't protect from viruses, thats it.
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