[3GFX]

Originally Posted by RugbyBro

I heard that vid was taken at an open track session with relatively novice drivers out on track

Based on the position of the other cars on track versus the lines the Tesla was taking this seems to be the case. A short clip of it passing no problem with others moving out of the way. Not a fair vid by any means, great title though...got my attention.

[Ximian]

I too like making videos of how much faster my car is than those that cost 10x as much when those cars are on a cool down lap and driven by people who don't seem to have much experience.

[Info@mad-us.com]

Originally Posted by chassis

What's the best Tesla time on the 'ring?

7:13 by the prototype plaid

[MPSdriver]

All electric performance cars will be a force to be recogned with, not just Tesla's.
Up next HUD showing ideal driving line, braking point, cornering speed...
Up next AI driving aids...
It's progress, it's all good but I'm dreaming of cruisin' in a 200hp NC with ITB's on some twisty roads, enjoying driving as it used to be. I must be getting old

[frchdragon]

Originally Posted by speedmaster20d

doesn't prove a thing IMO.

I consider myself a good driver but a pro race driver familiar with a given track in a golf GTI can easily beat me in a Ferrari first time on the same track (it has happened). so we conclude GTI is faster than a Ferrari or .... ?

I absolutely agree. I am a decent driver and I know drivers much better than me that can lap me with slower cars.
I too can out lap people with my heavy 635csi because I don't lift where they do and I accelerate earlier because I know the track and my car's behavior.

Same with my favorite on ramp, It is a long straight then a 360 downhill, then a long straight. I know that I am faster than 98% of the drivers no matter the car, because I have been driving it the last 15 years with many different cars in all kind of conditions.

Experience is a stubborn thing.

[six75LT]

"id rather drive a tesla than a P1" - said no one ever. dont care how much faster an electric car is, id take a slower ICE over it any day of the week

[Lemikson]

Ha, ha... with ICE sound enforcer from ahead car

[stein_325i]

I would actually really like to get behind the wheel (sorry, "Yoke") of a Plaid and see how they've improved the car. That being said Tesla is stupidly forcing their version of the future on their customers (once again) as the Yoke is the only steering wheel available. It amazes me that it passed the NHTSA as it looks seriously annoying. A solution for a problem that never existed.

https://www.motortrend.com/cars/tesl...-wheel-review/

[King Rudi]

Title change coming in 5....4....3....2.....

Mods, may I make another suggestion? This time, how about....Short video inaccurately depicts tomfoolery.

Marcus, I'm sorry. I can't help myself.

[chassis]

When does, or did, Tesla announce development of a future Indy 500 entry?

[Merami fan]

Originally Posted by DieselDiner

Excellent summation.

Or put another way, what happened on the second lap? And the third lap? etc

Taycan Turbo time from 2019: 7:42.34
https://presse.porsche.de/prod/press...l=modelle-news
Tesla: no official times.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...eife_lap_times
Only did 1 lap here, but the battery pack started to cut power due to overheating after 7 minutes and the brakes were shot. After 1 lap. "Dangerously bad brakes and suspension" as Misha describes.

To be fair, a stock Taycan is not going to last all day on a track, but it's certainly better than any Tesla when it comes to sustained performance and brakes. 26 launches (0-200 kmph/124 mph) in a row and the difference was only 0.8s between the best and worst times (source below). A Tesla can barely launch 2 times in a row.

While the Taycan has an advantage in drag races due to the 2-speed gearbox, it's also down on power and weighs more. But the key insight here is the Taycan trapped 130.02, 129.53, and 129.99 while the Model S did 128.64, 126.54, and 125.81.

Anything you read about Tesla track performance that's favorable, especially over a Taycan, is complete bullshit. Every instance is a pro driver in a heavily modified car running slicks vs a 1st time driver on all-seasons. Stock for stock, there is no comparison. There's a reason only Porsche has an official time despite getting into the EV game much later. And 'they always publish lap times for their cars and Tesla doesn't care' isn't a fair statement either. Tesla has certainly tried. I wouldn't be shocked if they do manage to beat the Taycan's time from 2019, but remember to give Porsche a month or two to see if they can reclaim the record.

Originally Posted by chassis

Good to know.

After the Nordschleife, does Tesla have a confirmed entry in an upcoming 24 Heures du Mans?

ICEs refuel many times during a 24 hour race. I don't see how EVs could possibly run a 24 hour race in the next decade or two, but that's EVs in general, not just Tesla. Maybe if they swapped cars instead of tires.

The Taycan did 3,425 km (2,128 miles) in 24 hours with charging stops.
https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/2019...ife-18440.html

[FCX5]

Originally Posted by Merami fan

Taycan Turbo time from 2019: 7:42.34
https://presse.porsche.de/prod/press...l=modelle-news
Tesla: no official times.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...eife_lap_times
Only did 1 lap here, but the battery pack started to cut power due to overheating after 7 minutes and the brakes were shot. After 1 lap. "Dangerously bad brakes and suspension" as Misha describes.

To be fair, a stock Taycan is not going to last all day on a track, but it's certainly better than any Tesla when it comes to sustained performance and brakes. 26 launches (0-200 kmph/124 mph) in a row and the difference was only 0.8s between the best and worst times (source below). A Tesla can barely launch 2 times in a row.

While the Taycan has an advantage in drag races due to the 2-speed gearbox, it's also down on power and weighs more. But the key insight here is the Taycan trapped 130.02, 129.53, and 129.99 while the Model S did 128.64, 126.54, and 125.81.

Anything you read about Tesla track performance that's favorable, especially over a Taycan, is complete bullshit. Every instance is a pro driver in a heavily modified car running slicks vs a 1st time driver on all-seasons. Stock for stock, there is no comparison. There's a reason only Porsche has an official time despite getting into the EV game much later. And 'they always publish lap times for their cars and Tesla doesn't care' isn't a fair statement either. Tesla has certainly tried. I wouldn't be shocked if they do manage to beat the Taycan's time from 2019, but remember to give Porsche a month or two to see if they can reclaim the record.

ICEs refuel many times during a 24 hour race. I don't see how EVs could possibly run a 24 hour race in the next decade or two, but that's EVs in general, not just Tesla. Maybe if they swapped cars instead of tires.

The Taycan did 3,425 km (2,128 miles) in 24 hours with charging stops.
https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/2019...ife-18440.html

Are you saying the Taycan is faster than the S Plaid? When was this comparison?

[Merami fan]

Originally Posted by FCX5

Are you saying the Taycan is faster than the S Plaid? When was this comparison?

That's an S Performance in the video. The S Plaid started being delivered very recently. It's much faster in the quarter mile, but that wasn't the point I was making. An overall comparison between the Turbo S and the S Plaid is a different topic.

[stevehifi]

I wouldn't dismiss the tri-motor Tesla too quickly.. the acceleration of that car is on par with the P1/Senna. Probably accelerates faster out of the hole as well.

It's really not a fair test though as the unplugged performance version strips out the interior, runs slicks, cage, etc..

Potential is there though and at a fraction of the cost of a P1/Senna for sure.

[IllSic_Design]

Originally Posted by stevehifi

I wouldn't dismiss the tri-motor Tesla too quickly.. the acceleration of that car is on par with the P1/Senna. Probably accelerates faster out of the hole as well.

It's really not a fair test though as the unplugged performance version strips out the interior, runs slicks, cage, etc..

Potential is there though and at a fraction of the cost of a P1/Senna for sure.

It still cant match the speeds that the McLaren's can get to on the front straight at Laguna, no matter how fast it can accelerate.

It's a nice feat and pretty awesome for a 4dr ev, but the experience of a super/hyper car can't be matched that's for sure.

[stein_325i]

Interesting article which goes through the process of how to get the best time, like all Tesla's, a pretty long time to prepare the car.

https://www.motortrend.com/cars/tesl...-wheel-review/

Also interesting article that talks about how frustrating the steering is.

https://www.motortrend.com/cars/tesl...-wheel-review/

[LOW4LYF]

Originally Posted by TXSTYLE

And?????

They are still Hypercars. Period. Impressive. The end.

Forget it... you hurt too many feelings with this video!

[Teutonic]

Originally Posted by TXSTYLE

And?????

They are still Hypercars. Period. Impressive. The end.

I passed yesterday with my BMW bicycle a Mclaren. It was sitting on the side of the road but it was an impressive feeling...
The end.

[FCX5]

Originally Posted by Teutonic

I passed yesterday with my BMW bicycle a Mclaren. It was sitting on the side of the road but it was an impressive feeling...
The end.

If you read this from Motor Trend, it confirms the Plaid is a serious machine. Also, they contradict the person above who said the Tesla cannot launch multiple times. Lastly, your example makes no sense….or may be you are just trying to be funny. LOL.

https://www.motortrend.com/cars/tesl...t-test-review/

[FCX5]

Originally Posted by Merami fan

That's an S Performance in the video. The S Plaid started being delivered very recently. It's much faster in the quarter mile, but that wasn't the point I was making. An overall comparison between the Turbo S and the S Plaid is a different topic.

https://www.motortrend.com/cars/tesl...t-test-review/

The model S as per this is now able to launch multiple times consistently.

[Ximian]

Originally Posted by FCX5

https://www.motortrend.com/cars/tesl...t-test-review/

The model S as per this is now able to launch multiple times consistently.

Progress is great and I'm onboard with EVs, but it doesn't change the fact that this video is just plain dumb.

[Humdizzle]

plaid is most definitely serious. motortrend just had it beat the Senna in the 0-100-0 test.

ran a 9.3 @ 147... unprepped surface.

just crazy. fastest 1/4 mile car in the world is a 5 seater for $140k.