Suggest a snowmageddon vehicle for me

minn19 · 12-16-2021, 12:04 PM

Maybe I missed it but nobody suggested a manual STI yet. That would be fun in the snow with the right tires and some mods.

As others said, a VW R would be fun to.

Or just go crazy and find a Dodge TRX.

JasonCSU · 12-16-2021, 12:37 PM

As others have said, good winter tires are what help the most. Several years ago when I still had my WRX, I got caught in a storm after a day of snowboarding that quickly dumped a few inches of snow on I-70 and I learned how capable my winter tires really were. Heading up in elevation towards the Eisenhower Tunnel, there was probably at least 6" on the road up there, and none of it had been plowed yet due to how quick the storm rolled in. Numerous semi-trucks were stuck because they hadn't put on chains yet, and there were all sorts of 4WD SUVs and trucks struggling to make it up the hill as well (most likely due to inadequate tires). Seeing the looks on peoples' faces as my low slung AWD car made it up the hill in deep snow without any issue was priceless.

Back on topic, how about a 2-door Jeep Wrangler? It's relatively compact lengthwise, is incredibly capable, and as a bonus, it can be a convertible in the warmer months.

tranquility · 12-16-2021, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JasonCSU

As others have said, good winter tires are what help the most. Several years ago when I still had my WRX, I got caught in a storm after a day of snowboarding that quickly dumped a few inches of snow on I-70 and I learned how capable my winter tires really were. Heading up in elevation towards the Eisenhower Tunnel, there was probably at least 6" on the road up there, and none of it had been plowed yet due to how quick the storm rolled in. Numerous semi-trucks were stuck because they hadn't put on chains yet, and there were all sorts of 4WD SUVs and trucks struggling to make it up the hill as well (most likely due to inadequate tires). Seeing the looks on peoples' faces as my low slung AWD car made it up the hill in deep snow without any issue was priceless.

Back on topic, how about a 2-door Jeep Wrangler? It's relatively compact lengthwise, is incredibly capable, and as a bonus, it can be a convertible in the warmer months.

Nice

, ya, Subbies are on my radar for sure. Wranglers are cool too, can't imagine getting stuck in one of those no matter what crazy snowstorm comes.

Killramos · 12-16-2021, 01:14 PM

Wranglers are really not great in the winter. ESP the short wheel base ones.

Don’t get me wrong, you are unlikely to get stuck in it. But the vehicle dynamics are pretty terrible at speed. I used to have one.

I always said, I’m not saying my wrangler won’t hit the ditch, but that it would be able to get out again after haha.

tranquility · 12-16-2021, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Killramos

Wranglers are really not great in the winter. ESP the short wheel base ones.

Don’t get me wrong, you are unlikely to get stuck in it. But the vehicle dynamics are pretty terrible at speed. I used to have one.

I always said, I’m not saying my wrangler won’t hit the ditch, but that it would be able to get out again after haha.

At speed? Haha, I'm not doing anything at speed in winter.

Not you but I'm always amazed at many ppl driving beyond the conditions and their capabilities. See it all the time.

T-Dubbs · 12-16-2021, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by minn19

Maybe I missed it but nobody suggested a manual STI yet.

My previous STi with winter tires was the best/ most fun car I've ever driven in snow.
The traction and control and predictability are some of the best reasons to have one. The ability to slide on a whim, always kept a smile on my face.

VisualEcho · 12-16-2021, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by T-Dubbs

My previous STi with winter tires was the best/ most fun car I've ever driven in snow.
The traction and control and predictability are some of the best reasons to have one. The ability to slide on a whim, always kept a smile on my face.

LOVED my STi in the snow/ice, even with all-season tires. I can't imagine how good it'd grip with real Winter tires.

Killramos · 12-16-2021, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by tranquility

At speed? Haha, I'm not doing anything at speed in winter.

Not you but I'm always amazed at many ppl driving beyond the conditions and their capabilities. See it all the time.

I mean beyond crawling speeds lol.

tranquility · 12-16-2021, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Killramos

I mean beyond crawling speeds lol.

It's that bad really??

Killramos · 12-16-2021, 08:57 PM

its brick shaped, without a real roof, live axles, suspended several feet off the ground.

It's a vehicle with many drawbacks in order to be really exceptional at low speeds off road.

tranquility · 12-16-2021, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Killramos

its brick shaped, without a real roof, live axles, suspended several feet off the ground.

It's a vehicle with many drawbacks in order to be really exceptional at low speeds off road.

Well, if you put it that way

...and...I'm out haha.

SpringheelJack · 12-16-2021, 11:19 PM

https://www.jeep.ca/en/wrangler/2021

spazzyfry123 · 12-17-2021, 01:36 PM

Why new? Dedicated for rough conditions, I think I'd rather have my money on something older that wouldn't make you cry once it's covered in salt and dings.

All said, used Toyotas are great. A very nice 100 series Land Cruiser could be had for half your money.

tranquility · 12-17-2021, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by spazzyfry123

Why new? Dedicated for rough conditions, I think I'd rather have my money on something older that wouldn't make you cry once it's covered in salt and dings.

All said, used Toyotas are great. A very nice 100 series Land Cruiser could be had for half your money.

I only buy new as I like being the first owner.

spazzyfry123 · 12-17-2021, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by tranquility

I only buy new as I like being the first owner.

Hey, your money, your rules!

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Originally Posted by Onesie

Plus; it's better to be in a safe car.
Wranglers and old Toyotas are never a good idea. Any body on frame SUV will not be good.

Also came back to reinforce the need for good winter tires. Cars are all the same, tires are different.

LOL @ old Toyotas not being a good idea. We’re taking “snowmageddon.” I couldn’t think of a better fit than a Land Cruiser. 25 year life cycle that’s built for the ends of the earth and used widely for things well more dangerous than a snow storm. Beast mode.

To each their own.

Lucky1 · 12-17-2021, 10:04 PM

I always worry with adding AWD and SUVs that you're trading the ability to get through deep snow with good snow stopping distance due to added weight vs a lighter car. Am I wrong?

spammysammich · 12-18-2021, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by VisualEcho

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Originally Posted by T-Dubbs

My previous STi with winter tires was the best/ most fun car I've ever driven in snow.
The traction and control and predictability are some of the best reasons to have one. The ability to slide on a whim, always kept a smile on my face.

LOVED my STi in the snow/ice, even with all-season tires. I can't imagine how good it'd grip with real Winter tires.

I've been testing out Continental Viking Contacts for the last two winters. With the exception of ground clearance I have very few problems getting around.

I should add that the difference between all seasons like Continental Extreme Contact DWS 06 and true winter/ice tires is night and day. I'll never make the mistake of trying to run an all season in deep snow or severe cold if I have an option.

JJ 911SC · 12-18-2021, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by tranquility

... my criteria:

.new
.AWD
.relatively COMPACT (so no Broncos, Hummers lol, etc), so small SUVs, CUVs, maybe even coupes, sedans or wagons if very capable
.ideally DCT but AT is acceptable
.must be able to carry 4 tires/wheels and at least 2 ppl at same time
.roughly CAD60,000 MSRP (~USD47,000)

That's all I can think of right now, TIA.

Pourquoi?

M-technik-3 · 12-18-2021, 08:13 AM

Back in the 90's I loved my Audi 4000CSQ 5 spd that someone had added a Calloway turbo kit to it being the old cars had manual locking diffs at the rear and the center There was never a time I got that thing stuck unless I was trying to play Mr Plow.

Sad it's gone

stein_325i · 12-18-2021, 10:02 AM

I'm gonna pile on and also say A4 Allroad, its pretty much scores in all criteria.

New ✅
AWD ✅
Compact ✅
DCT ✅
4 Tires + 2ppl ✅
CAD $60k ✅ (Starts at CAD $51k)

tranquility · 12-18-2021, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ 911SC

Pourquoi?

Je besoin un meilleur véhicule pour les transporter parce que c'est une corvée avec ma Z4 (qui a besoin 2 voyages).

[I need a better vehicle to transport them as it is a chore with my Z4 (which needs 2 trips).]

JJ 911SC · 12-18-2021, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by tranquility

Je besoin un meilleur véhicule pour les transporter parce que c'est une corvée avec ma Z4 (qui a besoin 2 voyages).

[I need a better vehicle to transport them as it is a chore with my Z4 (which needs 2 trips).]

So, you deliver Wheel and Tires?

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JasonCSU Colonel 705 Rep 2,548 Posts Drives: '08 135i, '88 325is Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Denver, CO iTrader: (0) Garage List 1988 BMW 325is [0.00] 2008 BMW 135i [0.00]	As others have said, good winter tires are what help the most. Several years ago when I still had my WRX, I got caught in a storm after a day of snowboarding that quickly dumped a few inches of snow on I-70 and I learned how capable my winter tires really were. Heading up in elevation towards the Eisenhower Tunnel, there was probably at least 6" on the road up there, and none of it had been plowed yet due to how quick the storm rolled in. Numerous semi-trucks were stuck because they hadn't put on chains yet, and there were all sorts of 4WD SUVs and trucks struggling to make it up the hill as well (most likely due to inadequate tires). Seeing the looks on peoples' faces as my low slung AWD car made it up the hill in deep snow without any issue was priceless. Back on topic, how about a 2-door Jeep Wrangler? It's relatively compact lengthwise, is incredibly capable, and as a bonus, it can be a convertible in the warmer months. __________________ Delivered in Munich, broken in on the Nurburgring.
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