[Captain Blood]

Firefighters struggle to douse fire on luxury cars vessel off Azores islands https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...el-2022-02-20/

[DETRoadster]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

That looks very bad, what is then done with this? I'm guessing tow it in somewhere for any salvage what might be left then it goes to Gujarat in India to be cut up..

They will tow it back to port, salvage all the microchips they can, then scrap the rest.

[TiMSport]

And catalytic converters?

[3.0L]

I heard a rumor that a Porsche dealership is going to open in our little town - first one ever.

"Discount Porsches, as is, no warranty. Free air freshener with purchase. Bring trailer."

[F30lolz]

Originally Posted by Captain Blood

Firefighters struggle to douse fire on luxury cars vessel off Azores islands https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...el-2022-02-20/

From the article:

Cabeças previously said that "everything was on fire about five meters above the water line" and the blaze was still far from the ship's fuel tanks. It is getting closer, he said.

Makes me wonder when it’ll be pointless to even have it towed with the risk above?

[Bimmersandmopars]

Originally Posted by TiMSport

And catalytic converters?

Ahhhhh current Rhodium market.

$18.4k per ounce.

[TiMSport]

Originally Posted by Bimmersandmopars

Ahhhhh current Rhodium market.

$18.4k per ounce.

Palladium coming in at a distant second place for $2,382 per ounce.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Bimmersandmopars

Ahhhhh current Rhodium market.

$18.4k per ounce.

Originally Posted by TiMSport

Palladium coming in at a distant second place for $2,382 per ounce.

Guard your Honda Elements, Toyota Prius' and Ford F250's/F350's. Those are highly targeted vehicles in my patrol area. If you hear the roar of a Sawzall, you better beat feet towards your vehicle.

[DETRoadster]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Guard your Honda Elements, Toyota Prius' and Ford F250's/F350's. Those are highly targeted vehicles in my patrol area. If you hear the roar of a Sawzall, you better beat feet towards your vehicle.

It's rampant here in Seattle. 3-man crews with 1 behind the wheel, 1 doing the sawing, and 1 standing watch with a gun. Multiple vehicle owners have been forced to stand there and watch while their catalytic converters are cut off in front of their eyes, while a 2nd crook points a gun at them. Being that this is Seattle you cant use deadly force to protect private property. In fact, the only legal action you can take is to offer the crooks a nice latte and some encouragement.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by DETRoadster

It's rampant here in Seattle. 3-man crews with 1 behind the wheel, 1 doing the sawing, and 1 standing watch with a gun. Multiple vehicle owners have been forced to stand there and watch while their catalytic converters are cut off in front of their eyes, while a 2nd crook points a gin at them. Being that this is Seattle you cant use deadly force to protect private property. In fact, the only legal action you can take is to offer the crooks a nice latte and some encouragement.

It angers me so much how these liberal cities allow crime to run rampant and don't prosecute. Sometimes I find it pointless to work in law enforcement. Morale is way down. If it weren't for the pay and retirement, I would've already quit.

[DETRoadster]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

It angers me so much how these liberal cities allow crime to run rampant and don't prosecute. Sometimes I find it pointless to work in law enforcement. Morale is way down. If it weren't for the pay and retirement, I would've already quit.

Me too. And I count myself amongst the Liberals when it comes to most social and economic issues. But theres a difference between treating people humanely and flat out enabling them. I feel awful for our men and women in uniform in this city who I know are trying their best to do their jobs well but lack the support of the city and the community. It sucks, and the results of how we treat our officers are clear in the attrition rate.

Anyway, dont mean to derail the thread on a rant. Thanks for all that you do for your community Sedan_Clan. Please know that the vast majority of citizens appreciate and support the work you and your fellow officers do. Even if it doesn't always feel like it.

[ibmc]

Originally Posted by Maynard

How could you have a ship dedicated to auto transport that doesn't have the same level of fire suppression that you see at a gas station - some kind of foam that would stop a fire from spreading? This isn't a boatload of Kia's after all - some of them probably had matching humidors that cost more than my M2.

IF it was a EV/battery fire, a normal AFFF fire suppression system would not have helped much. Battery fires don't go out like normal fires from gas or similar volatile liquid. This can happen to any EV, so I hope adjustments are made to prevent this from reoccurring.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by DETRoadster

Me too. And I count myself amongst the Liberals when it comes to most social and economic issues. But theres a difference between treating people humanely and flat out enabling them. I feel awful for our men and women in uniform in this city who I know are trying their best to do their jobs well but lack the support of the city and the community. It sucks, and the results of how we treat our officers are clear in the attrition rate.

Anyway, dont mean to derail the thread on a rant. Thanks for all that you do for your community Sedan_Clan. Please know that the vast majority of citizens appreciate and support the work you and your fellow officers do. Even if it doesn't always feel like it.

Much appreciated! Truly!

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by DETRoadster

They will tow it back to port, salvage all the microchips they can, then scrap the rest.

It'll take hours to get to one through the mound of melted alloy and plastic heheh

[upstatedoc]

Originally Posted by Maynard

This isn't a boatload of Kia's after all -

that hurts

[TiMSport]

Originally Posted by DETRoadster

Me too. And I count myself amongst the Liberals when it comes to most social and economic issues. But theres a difference between treating people humanely and flat out enabling them. I feel awful for our men and women in uniform in this city who I know are trying their best to do their jobs well but lack the support of the city and the community. It sucks, and the results of how we treat our officers are clear in the attrition rate.

Anyway, dont mean to derail the thread on a rant. Thanks for all that you do for your community Sedan_Clan. Please know that the vast majority of citizens appreciate and support the work you and your fellow officers do. Even if it doesn't always feel like it.

I couldn't agree with you more. I come from that place and I don't even recognize it any more. It saddens me to no end.

+1 on remark regarding Sedan_Clan .

[Elwood F]

Yes. I agree with you. I used to reside there about a year ago.

[upstatedoc]

Originally Posted by Elwood F

Yes. I agree with you. I used to reside there about a year ago.

@vreihen16 What's your meter reading on this?

[vreihen16]

Originally Posted by upstatedoc

@vreihen16 What's your meter reading on this?

You don't need to ask. Just look at the user's visitor messages for anyone posting gibberish to see if they're on my spam radar and I've tagged them. (Alan Turing FTW!)

In this case, there are already two SEO link posts in the user's history...one for Canadian storage units when the user allegedly lives in Texas. I hit the triangle on him, but the mods haven't done anything yet. Wait for the bot to come back and edit that post to add an SEO link.....

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by ibmc

IF it was a EV/battery fire, a normal AFFF fire suppression system would not have helped much. Battery fires don't go out like normal fires from gas or similar volatile liquid. This can happen to any EV, so I hope adjustments are made to prevent this from reoccurring.

"«The fire has subsided in recent hours,» João Mendes Cabeças, captain of the nearest port in the Azorean island of Faial said, per Reuters, adding that there was «little material left to burn».":
https://www.carscoops.com/2022/02/fi...cars-affected/

"Electric Vehicles and Maritime Transportation – Fire Hazards Identified":
https://gcaptain.com/electric-vehicl...ds-identified/

"Stuck at sea: The latest on the burning car carrier that never made it to RI"
https://eu.providencejournal.com/sto...nd/6860627001/

If could be established that an EV car battery caused the fire catastrophy (complicated to prove), the manufacturer and its insurer risk to face massive claims in damages (destruction of thousands of cars and claims by the ship owner for (irreparable?) damage to the ship, loss of profits, salvage costs, etc.). A nightmare.

[Tommysalami]

Originally Posted by Maynard

How could you have a ship dedicated to auto transport that doesn't have the same level of fire suppression that you see at a gas station - some kind of foam that would stop a fire from spreading? This isn't a boatload of Kia's after all - some of them probably had matching humidors that cost more than my M2.

Cost of installing those in every container probably outweighs the return. Cheaper to pay for a huge loss once in a while than to put fire suppression in shitloads of containers and then continue to inspect and test each of those systems on a regular basis.

Also most gas stations don't have fire suppression

[F30lolz]

Ship sank. So much for seeing pics but initial reports from last week said that the electric car batteries were the cause but now it’ll be impossible who’s to blame exactly. I would love to be a fly on the wall listening to the ongoing debating.