[Game]

Originally Posted by F32Fleet

Supply chain issues due to Ukraine are real. We had an X3 delayed 2 months.

Mercedes Benz C-class was delayed until last spring and just now hitting dealer lots.

There's no reason an X3 should've been delayed two months. They're popping those out like tic tacs. SA included.

[F32Fleet]

Originally Posted by Game

There's no reason an X3 should've been delayed two months. They're popping those out like tic tacs. SA included.

Wire looms were being made in Ukraine. As I understand it's very labor intensive.

[Juggernator]

Where is the sales number for M models?

[VIERsr]

Originally Posted by Kr0m3assass1n

Really impressive growth on the X7. High volume, high margin.

No surprises really, its a luxury family hauling, not so gas guzzling, ass massaging monster.

Good point.
Mercedes just announced that there will be no successors for the A-Class and B-Class, there are not enough profits for these cheap models and they will focus on the more luxurious - and profitable - ones. It will be probably the same for Bmw, the 3-series (or whatever they will call it) will be the new entry level of the brand, if they can't sell as many cars anymore they will focus on the most profitable ones.
We have to be ready for a big change with the arrival of new players from China, starting from the lower range up to... who knows.

In any case, the drop in sales is not due to the design or anything else related to the cars, in Europe the situation is the same and all brands are affected, it's not a good time for many reasons (shortage of components, rising prices and leasing rates, uncertainty about the global political situation). It will be a tough year.

[Juggernator]

Anyone have the sales figure for M models?

[falconey]

Curious why they don't detail i4 sales. Would love to compare to how many iX's they were able to get on lots.

[BMWCCA1]

Originally Posted by Juggernator

Where is the sales number for M models?

That's a broad brush. Pretty soon every model will be an "M" of some kind. Remember, "M is for Marketing".

[tgrundke]

No, design is not the reason for the sales shortfall - it's supply chain related. All you need to do is read the forum discussions about order delays, limited allocations, and options being removed to understand the issue.

Originally Posted by Maks///M2

Bmw quit claiming production issues. Less than a year ago you were one of the manufactures that had production under control.

Just admit you screwed up on the design of the new models.
The 4 looks like an a5 from 2012z
The XM honestly… anything but that
IX good tech, but make it appealing.

All these skinny/double lights. Yes it's here to stay, but that's the cause of your sales loss… not production.

It's sad when the g80 only looks good in black….

[OSee]

Originally Posted by Maks///M2

Bmw quit claiming production issues. Less than a year ago you were one of the manufactures that had production under control.

Just admit you screwed up on the design of the new models.
The 4 looks like an a5 from 2012z
The XM honestly… anything but that
IX good tech, but make it appealing.

All these skinny/double lights. Yes it's here to stay, but that's the cause of your sales loss… not production.

It's sad when the g80 only looks good in black….

Lol at this pedantic armchair analysis.

4 series sales are up. The G80 is the best selling M3 of all time. Yes, that’s units moved, not dollars, so you can’t claim markup.

So if you’re waiting to be able to yell “I told you so!” to BMW and have them come crawling back with updated re-releases of the e38, e39 and e46 as brand new models….you’re going to be waiting a long time.

Every car that got purist hate is selling like hot cakes. Even the X7 is up. Wow!

[FrankieNuo]

Originally Posted by Juggernator

Anyone have the sales figure for M models?

They're included with there respect series number. For example the m3 is included in 3 series sales.

[Matthi]

Originally Posted by F32Fleet

Wire looms were being made in Ukraine. As I understand it's very labor intensive.

US X3s don't get their wire harnesses from Europe though. Only European plants where shut down because of it.

[cfm56d7b]

X vehicles outsold passenger cars by 2 to 1. Increasing X5 sales is not a mistake. The car is nearly perfect. iX product managers: worth visiting X5 design colleagues and take notes.

[3RDSECTOR]

I was told we would continue to see 4 Series sales numbers rise exponentially due to the design being so bold, striking, cutting edge, captivating and modern. What happened?

[antzcrashing]

Originally Posted by That_Schwarz_E92

The X5 45e is the bread and butter around my dealership. They're sold before they even have paint on the frame.

Coincidentally they don't put much paint on those frames anyway…

[supershaft]

Originally Posted by OSee

Lol at this pedantic armchair analysis.

4 series sales are up.

when -14% in sales means sales are up

[StradaRedlands]

Originally Posted by OSee

Lol at this pedantic armchair analysis.

4 series sales are up. The G80 is the best selling M3 of all time. Yes, that’s units moved, not dollars, so you can’t claim markup.

So if you’re waiting to be able to yell “I told you so!” to BMW and have them come crawling back with updated re-releases of the e38, e39 and e46 as brand new models….you’re going to be waiting a long time.

Every car that got purist hate is selling like hot cakes. Even the X7 is up. Wow!

Where do I sign up for the e39 re-release?

[Ibiza]

Originally Posted by 3RDSECTOR

I was told we would continue to see 4 Series sales numbers rise exponentially due to the design being so bold, striking, cutting edge, captivating and modern. What happened?

People took their blinders off and that grill

I have a G83, so I can make the comment.

[Ibiza]

Originally Posted by cfm56d7b

X vehicles outsold passenger cars by 2 to 1. Increasing X5 sales is not a mistake. The car is nearly perfect. iX product managers: worth visiting X5 design colleagues and take notes.

Thus why BMW M for the bespoke vehicle chose the XM. It's sad that BMW is now a SUV/SAV company.

[sittingmongoose]

Originally Posted by R2i3a

I'd like to see a comparison in profits rather than cars sold

Keep in mind, it's not bmw getting those huge marked up prices. It's the dealerships. Bmw only gets the invoice pricing for cars(maybe msrp?).

The biggest thing they have now is they are saving money on no rebates or financing incentives.

[Game]

Originally Posted by F32Fleet

Wire looms were being made in Ukraine. As I understand it's very labor intensive.

Oh I get it. I run the inventory at a BMW store and haven't had a single issue getting an X3 within 3-5 weeks. Only issue has been a few missing options here and there.

Only way one would take a few months is if your store had only South Africa allocations.

[F32Fleet]

Originally Posted by Game

Oh I get it. I run the inventory at a BMW store and haven't had a single issue getting an X3 within 3-5 weeks. Only issue has been a few missing options here and there.

Only way one would take a few months is if your store had only South Africa allocations.

Ya I don't know what to tell ya. She ordered the B58.

[Pyrat 2]

Pretty sorry story here. Speaks to the attractiveness of their line-up overall. Watching them on the sidelines lose their game slowly 1 day at a time.