Human Immortality

scottwww · 09-23-2009, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by kyleb350

If you think about it, wouldn't this nanotechnology have to keep the parts of our bodies (that make us human) from eventually decaying if we wanted to me immortal? We could be all machine, yes, but in order to have any "human" in us, we would still have to have a consciousness, which cannot be replicated by electronics, no? Unless they know 100% of what the brain can do and mimic that with this technology.

I'm thinking too much into this... ha

I don't know much about biology, but a documentary I watched once indicated that telomeres (spelling?) are one of the main things that limits our lifespan. Apparently they determine how many times your DNA can replicate. If this could be fixed, then our biology might be able to go on for much longer. I would guess that one of the more difficult things to extend would be memory. If you replaced old brain cells with new ones, wouldn't the memories go with them? That may not be a bad thing.

TiAg335i · 09-23-2009, 09:18 PM

Immortality in 20 years...haha.

That has got to be one of the most nonsensical statements of the 21st century. We still haven't got a cure for cancer, or aids, and this guy is coming up with immortality?

Spool · 09-23-2009, 09:33 PM

This is the dumbest thing i've ever heard...20 years?

I think the concept of immortality and time travel is science fiction...and will never happen

All these theories of worm holes and folding the fabric of time and space, are just "fun" ideas with no data to support...

This is what i think humans are capable of

Landing humans on Mars and possibly colonizing the planet.

We will not survive the trip to Jupiter or farther, and we'll never reach the nearest star with a probe, let alone a human...

oneintheory · 09-23-2009, 09:38 PM

oh my god, we're all gonna die!

oh, wait....

koreez88 · 09-23-2009, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by oneintheory

oh my god, we're all gonna die!

oh, wait....

2012

Italteen3 · 09-23-2009, 10:20 PM

Count me in!

Jammin Jason · 09-23-2009, 10:23 PM

i dont care about immorality as long as the nanotechnology enhances our organs such as our lungs so that we are capable of living in places that does not require oxygen like underwater or space

TiAg335i · 09-23-2009, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Spool

This is the dumbest thing i've ever heard...20 years?

I think the concept of immortality and time travel is science fiction...and will never happen

All these theories of worm holes and folding the fabric of time and space, are just "fun" ideas with no data to support...

This is what i think humans are capable of

Landing humans on Mars and possibly colonizing the planet.

We will not survive the trip to Jupiter or farther, and we'll never reach the nearest star with a probe, let alone a human...

The main reason why this guy is a total nutjob - entropy. Nothing will stay ordered for eternity.

scottwww · 09-23-2009, 11:46 PM

Fascinating video

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MJC///M3 · 09-24-2009, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TiAg335i

Immortality in 20 years...haha.

That has got to be one of the most nonsensical statements of the 21st century. We still haven't got a cure for cancer, or aids, and this guy is coming up with immortality?

nor can they even cure athlete's foot....

it would be pretty sweet though being a cyborg...

then I can tell everyone my "CPU is a neural net processor...a learning computer......Cyberdine Systems Model 101."

oldaccount · 09-24-2009, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by guardianangel3290

Strangely, genetically engineering life to display desired traits, included longer life cycles, is quite a bit easier that defying the laws of physics. Who'd a thunk.

Strangely, my post was (obviously) facetious. Who'd a thunk?

TiAg335i · 09-24-2009, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MJC///M3

nor can they even cure athlete's foot....

it would be pretty sweet though being a cyborg...

then I can tell everyone my "CPU is a neural net processor...a learning computer......Cyberdine Systems Model 101."

Yeah...throwing out a bunch of stats about your processing power WOULD be cool.

But no computer can ever match the power of the human brain...not even close.

darkphantom · 09-24-2009, 07:40 PM

You know, I think we will gain immortality before starcraft 2 or diablo III ever come out....so its probable...

number335 · 09-24-2009, 09:46 PM

I don't think the NFL will allow this to happen or player salaries will get out of control.

MJC///M3 · 09-24-2009, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TiAg335i

Yeah...throwing out a bunch of stats about your processing power WOULD be cool.

But no computer can ever match the power of the human brain...not even close.

hahah...I'm a big terminator fan so I had to throw that one out there when I heard "cyborg"

+1 on the brain, what would be sweet is if they can figure out a way for us to use more of it....dont we only use like 10% of our entire brain capacity?

i'd love to be able to move shyt with my mind...i'd be sitting at that roulette table all night baby.....RED 23 ALL NIGHT...bang!!!

len56 · 09-24-2009, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Spool

This is the dumbest thing i've ever heard...20 years?

I think the concept of immortality and time travel is science fiction...and will never happen

All these theories of worm holes and folding the fabric of time and space, are just "fun" ideas with no data to support...

This is what i think humans are capable of

Landing humans on Mars and possibly colonizing the planet.

We will not survive the trip to Jupiter or farther, and we'll never reach the nearest star with a probe, let alone a human...

let's say it's 1790. nobody has the slightest idea of what a telephone is.

do you think they could have thought that at one point we could talk to people across the earth, in realtime, and hear the sound of their voice?

not to mention, doing it from practically anywhere you want, (cellphone), or receiving a practically infinite amount of information at the touch of your fingertips? (smartphone, mobile internet)

no... they couldn't even imagine a lightbulb.

we're just going to keep getting cooler.

(hopefully)

imagine what space travel can be like... maybe it will be as cool as in Halo... (minus evil aliens)(...hopefully)

as for population control...we'd have to do birth control. like you're allowed one kid, and then when new space is made (new planet), your allowed another... something like that.

len56 · 09-24-2009, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MJC///M3

hahah...I'm a big terminator fan so I had to throw that one out there when I heard "cyborg"

+1 on the brain, what would be sweet is if they can figure out a way for us to use more of it....dont we only use like 10% of our entire brain capacity?

i'd love to be able to move shyt with my mind...i'd be sitting at that roulette table all night baby.....RED 23 ALL NIGHT...bang!!!

telekinesis would be so sick

-1 on the brain... yeah, we don't use all of it, and it is extremely powerful...

but thinking that a computer will never beat the brain (even at 100%)?

look how fast technology moves, like 25 years ago, 1 mb of data in a hardrive would be great. now you get terabytes easy.

but I doubt 0s and 1s can move things around

(if we're ever able to do that)

CollinsE90 · 09-24-2009, 10:15 PM

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JoosyJoos · 09-24-2009, 10:53 PM

This sounds exactly like how Metal Gear Solid gets started. Fox Die anyone? Sons of the Patriots?

scottwww · 09-25-2009, 12:24 AM

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