VOLVO S60R OR ΒΜW 335i E90

shimshimhada · 11-01-2006, 04:38 PM

B = 2

V = 22

Volvo is 11x better than BMW, that is truf.

Nikki · 11-01-2006, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shimshimhada

B = 2

V = 22

Volvo is 11x better than BMW, that is truf.

hahahah truth!

ALPINE6SPD · 11-06-2006, 02:58 PM

Volvo By Far

Jaws · 11-06-2006, 06:17 PM

No contest here, and this is coming from someone who grew up with Volvos. Don't forget that the S60 is inherently a FWD. The Haldex AWD is also quite heavy. Go BMW in this case. Also the S60 platform is from 2001 and is not nearly as stiff as the E90/2. I used to have a 850 turbo and quite like the 5 cyl, but it is not nearly as smooth as the BMW 6 cyl.

recruiter · 11-06-2006, 06:56 PM

Well i have just sold my S60R 2004 i have had it since new Feb 04 Great car and i tried to order a new 06 but in Australia Volvo has decided not to import any R's. So i looked at alternatives Audi S4, only Auto available, heavy fuel consumption and well overpriced. In Aus $170,000 on road
I pick up a 335 end of this month, hope I'm not disappointed. However, the Volvo i have no doubts will be a better allround car. In areas of seats, drivability in wet and slush, fuel consumption is fantastic for such performance,ambience of cabin and more space So in my case the 335 was second on my list.

ALPINE6SPD · 11-10-2006, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by recruiter

Well i have just sold my S60R 2004 i have had it since new Feb 04 Great car and i tried to order a new 06 but in Australia Volvo has decided not to import any R's. So i looked at alternatives Audi S4, only Auto available, heavy fuel consumption and well overpriced. In Aus $170,000 on road
I pick up a 335 end of this month, hope I'm not disappointed. However, the Volvo i have no doubts will be a better allround car. In areas of seats, drivability in wet and slush, fuel consumption is fantastic for such performance,ambience of cabin and more space So in my case the 335 was second on my list.

you will get better mileage with the 335i

herbz · 11-27-2006, 10:31 AM

lol@ the results

CnoteMD · 11-27-2006, 01:34 PM

I would probably choose a BMW 325i over the Volvo S60R. This is coming from the owner of a BMW 330i and a Volvo S60 2.4T. Don't get me wrong, Volvo makes very nice cars, but the focus is more about comfort and safety. My wife loves her Volvo, but admits that she will probably go for a BMW next time (despite the drop in ride comfort that will accompany such a switch).

bavarian19 · 11-27-2006, 04:06 PM

Id rather drive the volvo. I am so OCD about keeping my BMW clean and in pristine condition.

I would not give a crap about the volvo, wash it twice a year, not care about minor scratches... My life would be easier...

recruiter · 11-28-2006, 04:49 AM

Having now picked up my 335i i can give you my initial thoughts on both.
I was expecting seats to be inferior to the Volvo having driven 330i's but that it is not the case, very line ball.Ride is smoother and gearbox less notchy than Volvos.
Seat of pants tells me 335i is quicker by a good margin. However, In the wet the Volvo would trounce the 335i. Remember the S60r design is a lot older than the 335i but still gives a good account for itself. 330i could not get close to a 6 speed S60r.
The advanced setting on the Volvo is a great thrill but do not hit any potholes as you could bite your tongue with the jaring. Only for perfect roads or track.
The 335i is not yet a week old but if it is as reliable as the Volvo i will be happy.

redlinejunkie · 12-29-2006, 02:18 PM

I have a 335 coupe, and drove s60r. As a matter of fact s60r was one of my favourite before 335 came out. Interrms of engine performance i thought he cars are not too far apart.

S60R, on a roll is not as quick as the 335, i guess because of weight and awd. Thats why on a quarter mile it runs 14s to high 13s. However at 110, 120, volvo still pulls harder. Thats what amazed me the most about it.

Interms of handling, in the dry I give 335 the edge. 335 is more flickable,and stable. However volvo also gives the feeling of you have been driving this car for years.

recruiter · 01-01-2007, 01:49 PM

Have now completed 3600 klms in the 335i manual Coupe and additional comparsions to the s60R (completed 60,000 lklms on sale) are:
Fuel consumption with mixture of city/country driving is slightly better on the Volvo and 6th gear will pull at lower speeds than the 335i, i find myself dropping to 5th more often (this is not a problem just an observation).
The Volvo had a well known skip or hop when a bump is encountered on a corner very noticable at speed; guess what the 335i reacts the same. Violent enough to wake the wife but does recover quickly(Both the wife and the car).
I do find the BMW is an easier car to drive and would not swap for a new s60r. A combination of better driving position, placement of the gear leverand less notchy and great turning circle make driving a pleasure not to mention that great exhaust note.
Just a note, i returned from 8 days away and had the car loaded with Christmas presents, food , bags you name it ,back seats lowered flat and behind my seat was a plastic container. There must have been pressure on the seat backing as there is an indentation, i hope it returns to normal after awhile.

BMW F22 · 01-01-2007, 05:01 PM

beside me, how many of the voters are badge whores???

View Poll Results: VOLVO S60R (300bhp) OR BMW 335i E90
BMW 335i E90	94	94.95%
VOLVO S60R (300bhp)	5	5.05%
Voters: 99. You may not vote on this poll

11-01-2006, 04:38 PM	#23
shimshimhada Brigadier General 491 Rep 4,838 Posts Drives: Portal Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Portal iTrader: (2)	B = 2 V = 22 Volvo is 11x better than BMW, that is truf.
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11-06-2006, 02:58 PM	#25
ALPINE6SPD Lieutenant General 161 Rep 10,407 Posts Drives: 2010 BMW 328i Sport Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Highland Lakes NJ iTrader: (2)	Volvo By Far __________________ 2010 AW e90 328i: 6 speed, Black Leather, Dark Wood trim, ZPP, ZCW, ZVP,ZSP, Nav, Xenon BMW Performance CF Rear spolier and Gloss black grills 2008 Candy White MKV GTI 2.0T 6 Speed Manul Gone 2008 AW X3 3.0si: 6 speed Returned 2006 AW e90 330i: 6 speed Dinan Stage 1 Returned
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11-06-2006, 06:17 PM	#26
Jaws Lieutenant Colonel 49 Rep 1,738 Posts Drives: 2006 325i mt Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Edmonton iTrader: (0)	No contest here, and this is coming from someone who grew up with Volvos. Don't forget that the S60 is inherently a FWD. The Haldex AWD is also quite heavy. Go BMW in this case. Also the S60 platform is from 2001 and is not nearly as stiff as the E90/2. I used to have a 850 turbo and quite like the 5 cyl, but it is not nearly as smooth as the BMW 6 cyl. __________________ 2006 325i - Sparkling Graphite 2000 S2000 - New Formula Red 2007 Chev Silverado crew cab Z71
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11-06-2006, 06:56 PM	#27
recruiter Private 2 Rep 70 Posts Drives: 335i Montego Blue(manual) Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sydney Australia iTrader: (0)	Well i have just sold my S60R 2004 i have had it since new Feb 04 Great car and i tried to order a new 06 but in Australia Volvo has decided not to import any R's. So i looked at alternatives Audi S4, only Auto available, heavy fuel consumption and well overpriced. In Aus $170,000 on road I pick up a 335 end of this month, hope I'm not disappointed. However, the Volvo i have no doubts will be a better allround car. In areas of seats, drivability in wet and slush, fuel consumption is fantastic for such performance,ambience of cabin and more space So in my case the 335 was second on my list.
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11-27-2006, 10:31 AM	#29
herbz hi 98 Rep 837 Posts Drives: '86 325e Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: outside boston MA iTrader: (0)	lol@ the results
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11-27-2006, 01:34 PM	#30
CnoteMD Commander in Chief 38 Rep 1,034 Posts Drives: 2008 BMW 535i Join Date: May 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 M5 [0.00] 2006 330i [0.00]	I would probably choose a BMW 325i over the Volvo S60R. This is coming from the owner of a BMW 330i and a Volvo S60 2.4T. Don't get me wrong, Volvo makes very nice cars, but the focus is more about comfort and safety. My wife loves her Volvo, but admits that she will probably go for a BMW next time (despite the drop in ride comfort that will accompany such a switch). __________________ 2008 BMW 535i Space Gray, Black Leather, Dark Bamboo Trim\| Sport Automatic with Paddles \| Sport Package 2008 BMW M5 (gone, but not forgotten) Space Gray, Silverstone Merino Leather, Madeira Walnut Wood Trim \| 7speed SMG \| All options Mods: Corsa Exhaust \| RPI Ram Air Intake \| H&R Sport Springs \| Rogue Engineering 12mm spacers
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11-27-2006, 04:06 PM	#31
bavarian19 General 547 Rep 18,849 Posts Drives: Car Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: VA iTrader: (23)	Id rather drive the volvo. I am so OCD about keeping my BMW clean and in pristine condition. I would not give a crap about the volvo, wash it twice a year, not care about minor scratches... My life would be easier...
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11-28-2006, 04:49 AM	#32
recruiter Private 2 Rep 70 Posts Drives: 335i Montego Blue(manual) Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sydney Australia iTrader: (0)	Comparsion btw S60R AND 335I both 6 speed Having now picked up my 335i i can give you my initial thoughts on both. I was expecting seats to be inferior to the Volvo having driven 330i's but that it is not the case, very line ball.Ride is smoother and gearbox less notchy than Volvos. Seat of pants tells me 335i is quicker by a good margin. However, In the wet the Volvo would trounce the 335i. Remember the S60r design is a lot older than the 335i but still gives a good account for itself. 330i could not get close to a 6 speed S60r. The advanced setting on the Volvo is a great thrill but do not hit any potholes as you could bite your tongue with the jaring. Only for perfect roads or track. The 335i is not yet a week old but if it is as reliable as the Volvo i will be happy.
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12-29-2006, 02:18 PM	#33
redlinejunkie Private 4 Rep 64 Posts Drives: 335 coupe Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: ohio iTrader: (0)	I have a 335 coupe, and drove s60r. As a matter of fact s60r was one of my favourite before 335 came out. Interrms of engine performance i thought he cars are not too far apart. S60R, on a roll is not as quick as the 335, i guess because of weight and awd. Thats why on a quarter mile it runs 14s to high 13s. However at 110, 120, volvo still pulls harder. Thats what amazed me the most about it. Interms of handling, in the dry I give 335 the edge. 335 is more flickable,and stable. However volvo also gives the feeling of you have been driving this car for years.
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01-01-2007, 01:49 PM	#34
recruiter Private 2 Rep 70 Posts Drives: 335i Montego Blue(manual) Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sydney Australia iTrader: (0)	Have now completed 3600 klms in the 335i manual Coupe and additional comparsions to the s60R (completed 60,000 lklms on sale) are: Fuel consumption with mixture of city/country driving is slightly better on the Volvo and 6th gear will pull at lower speeds than the 335i, i find myself dropping to 5th more often (this is not a problem just an observation). The Volvo had a well known skip or hop when a bump is encountered on a corner very noticable at speed; guess what the 335i reacts the same. Violent enough to wake the wife but does recover quickly(Both the wife and the car). I do find the BMW is an easier car to drive and would not swap for a new s60r. A combination of better driving position, placement of the gear leverand less notchy and great turning circle make driving a pleasure not to mention that great exhaust note. Just a note, i returned from 8 days away and had the car loaded with Christmas presents, food , bags you name it ,back seats lowered flat and behind my seat was a plastic container. There must have been pressure on the seat backing as there is an indentation, i hope it returns to normal after awhile.
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01-01-2007, 05:01 PM	#35
BMW F22 Major General 3659 Rep 9,783 Posts Drives: ///M235i Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Bay Area iTrader: (8)	beside me, how many of the voters are badge whores???
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