[CollinsE90]

Originally Posted by Jlomb436

Hey folks. Doc is gonna referr me to an ortho. However, he's sending me over to get an x-ray not an MRI, so i'm not sure how much that is going to help. As soon as I get to the ortho I'm going to ask if a MRI is necessary and that at this stage i'd prefer one.

word of advice, know the truth in the back of your mind but try to act dumb at the docs office, or ASK his/her opinion not tell him/her, well people have been telling... or ive done research....they hate that shit and will most likely get butt hurt and schedule BS procedures to cost you money and make them more...most docs are whiney bitches and feel threatened if you have ANY knowledge and think bc they are docs they know ALL...

on a sidenote i honestly think jaykay will make an amazing doctor bc he understands $$ and will be one of the few docs ive been to that will give you free shit and try to save you $$

[Jlomb436]

Originally Posted by JayKay335i

$$. Pass on the x-ray. Go to the ortho.

I would have, but the receptionist mentioned that in order to get a referral, I needed an x-ray. Not sure if that's an insurance thing or what. Again, I rarely use my insurance so I'm clueless.

Thanks for the input guys, they actually set me up with an ortho as well, I just need to make an appointment with the guy. Lets hope he is good and can help me out.

I also totally know what your talking about in terms of bring in my own research. I like to be informed, however, my doc hates it when I say ohhh well could it be this? or that? So I play dumb with him. Good advice though.

[CollinsE90]

Originally Posted by Jlomb436

I would have, but the receptionist mentioned that in order to get a referral, I needed an x-ray. Not sure if that's an insurance thing or what. Again, I rarely use my insurance so I'm clueless.

Thanks for the input guys, they actually set me up with an ortho as well, I just need to make an appointment with the guy. Lets hope he is good and can help me out.

I also totally know what your talking about in terms of bring in my own research. I like to be informed, however, my doc hates it when I say ohhh well could it be this? or that? So I play dumb with him. Good advice though.

in my experience the Xray thing is correct, i usually would be given a digi copy on a disk to bring to the ortho, or they did it for me...

[xraymd]

Too bad. Unless you have a fracture (unlikely) or some big bone eating tumor (even less likely), the X-ray won't show anything. And most orthopods can do the X-ray in their office, if they think you need one. I guess you could ask when you set up your appointment if you really need the X-ray.

[JayKay335i]

Originally Posted by CollinsE90

word of advice, know the truth in the back of your mind but try to act dumb at the docs office, or ASK his/her opinion not tell him/her, well people have been telling... or ive done research....they hate that shit and will most likely get butt hurt and schedule BS procedures to cost you money and make them more...most docs are whiney bitches and feel threatened if you have ANY knowledge and think bc they are docs they know ALL...

on a sidenote i honestly think jaykay will make an amazing doctor bc he understands $$ and will be one of the few docs ive been to that will give you free shit and try to save you $$

Huh? Free shit? Save you money? Lulz.

The reason that doctors don't like it when patients come in saying "well its probably this, or that, or this, I read it on the internet" isn't because doctors dont like informed patients. On the contrary, we like patients to be informed, healthy, and happy. Were not only there to heal but the educate the public.

The thing is that people go on line, look at a picture, read a sentence and think "Oh wow, I have this" and walk into their doctors office proclaiming what they have. If that was all it generally took to make diagnoses, there wouldn't be a need for doctors.

There are many simple disorders with shit tons of underlying pathologies, signs, symptoms, etc. Its nothing to do with being butt hurt, cause chances are the patient doesn't have a clue what he/shes talking about. Nobody likes being told how to do their job.

[aus]

Originally Posted by CollinsE90

word of advice, know the truth in the back of your mind but try to act dumb at the docs office, or ASK his/her opinion not tell him/her, well people have been telling... or ive done research....they hate that shit and will most likely get butt hurt and schedule BS procedures to cost you money and make them more...most docs are whiney bitches and feel threatened if you have ANY knowledge and think bc they are docs they know ALL...

on a sidenote i honestly think jaykay will make an amazing doctor bc he understands $$ and will be one of the few docs ive been to that will give you free shit and try to save you $$

You need a new doc. I'm NEVER threatened by a patient's knowledge when it comes to my field.

Originally Posted by JayKay335i

Huh? Free shit? Save you money? Lulz.

The reason that doctors don't like it when patients come in saying "well its probably this, or that, or this, I read it on the internet" isn't because doctors dont like informed patients. On the contrary, we like patients to be informed, healthy, and happy. Were not only there to heal but the educate the public.

The thing is that people go on line, look at a picture, read a sentence and think "Oh wow, I have this" and walk into their doctors office proclaiming what they have. If that was all it generally took to make diagnoses, there wouldn't be a need for doctors.

There are many simple disorders with shit tons of underlying pathologies, signs, symptoms, etc. Its nothing to do with being butt hurt, cause chances are the patient doesn't have a clue what he/shes talking about. Nobody likes being told how to do their job.

I agree. Patient's who act like they know what their diagnosis is BUT symptoms and findings don't match are just a pain in the ass. THAT's why we get annoyed. Go play fucking doctor on someone elses time.

And it's pretty standard to get an x-ray before seeing an ortho. You have an HMO so it shouldn't be a big deal and shouldn't cost you anything.
And for the ass hat who said we get paid more for doing the test... TOTALLY CLUELESS. Unless the ortho owns the MRI or does the X-ray in his office, he's not getting anything when he sends a pt out. And with an HMO, it's usually minimal money anyway.

[CollinsE90]

Originally Posted by aus

You need a new doc. I'm NEVER threatened by a patient's knowledge when it comes to my field.



I agree. Patient's who act like they know what their diagnosis is BUT symptoms and findings don't match are just a pain in the ass. THAT's why we get annoyed. Go play fucking doctor on someone elses time.

And it's pretty standard to get an x-ray before seeing an ortho. You have an HMO so it shouldn't be a big deal and shouldn't cost you anything.
And for the ass hat who said we get paid more for doing the test... TOTALLY CLUELESS. Unless the ortho owns the MRI or does the X-ray in his office, he's not getting anything when he sends a pt out. And with an HMO, it's usually minimal money anyway.

well im very good at reading people's face reactions etc, and when i went to the stomach doc i would ask questions with some knowledge, not telling him what it was and he would stop me mid sentence bc he was butt hurt...now my family doc was cool as hell, we would shoot the shit and i always listened to him bc he knew what he was talking about

[02themax]

I feel your pain! I tore my achilles playing basketball 3 years ago and it sucked big time. Sounds like you did some minor damage to your achilles and you should get an MRI to see how bad. It could be a small tear but most likely it's really aggravated and needs some time to heal. I would imagine about 3 months no sports activity. I had the same symptoms as you but played through the pain and finished up the season. The problem is that pain is microscpoic tears in the tendon and as the tendon heals it has scar tissue. The scar tissue is the weak point and thus the following spring I ruptured my achilles and it didn't take much. I opted to hae the surgery and I was back on the court in 8 months after my injury and have been fine since. In your case since you haven't ruptured it yet I would take a long break then start this work out program http://www.sportsinjurybulletin.com/...endonitis.html. I now do this training and both of achilles feel alot stronger than before. Good luck with everything, keep us posted on what your outcome is.

[aus]

Originally Posted by CollinsE90

well im very good at reading people's face reactions etc, and when i went to the stomach doc i would ask questions with some knowledge, not telling him what it was and he would stop me mid sentence bc he was butt hurt...now my family doc was cool as hell, we would shoot the shit and i always listened to him bc he knew what he was talking about

If the doc doesn't listen, then get a new one, but the GENERALIZE all of us is BS. Now if you have an HMO... you get what you pay for.

[CollinsE90]

Originally Posted by aus

If the doc doesn't listen, then get a new one, but the GENERALIZE all of us is BS. Now if you have an HMO... you get what you pay for.

sorry it wasnt meant for ALL doctors and i know it came off that way, but i have UHC, what type of doc are you if you dont mind me asking?

[aus]

Originally Posted by 02themax

I feel your pain! I tore my achilles playing basketball 3 years ago and it sucked big time. Sounds like you did some minor damage to your achilles and you should get an MRI to see how bad. It could be a small tear but most likely it's really aggravated and needs some time to heal. I would imagine about 3 months no sports activity. I had the same symptoms as you but played through the pain and finished up the season. The problem is that pain is microscpoic tears in the tendon and as the tendon heals it has scar tissue. The scar tissue is the weak point and thus the following spring I ruptured my achilles and it didn't take much. I opted to hae the surgery and I was back on the court in 8 months after my injury and have been fine since. In your case since you haven't ruptured it yet I would take a long break then start this work out program http://www.sportsinjurybulletin.com/...endonitis.html. I now do this training and both of achilles feel alot stronger than before. Good luck with everything, keep us posted on what your outcome is.

That links has some interesting stuff. I have achilles soreness after playing basketball but don't know what exercises to do to actually strengthen it.
I'm still not entirely sure what they want you to do, but I'll have to read it a few more times. Don't want to do it wrong and cause damage.

Originally Posted by CollinsE90

sorry it wasnt meant for ALL doctors and i know it came off that way, but i have UHC, what type of doc are you if you dont mind me asking?

I'm a Pulmonologist. I deal with asthma, COPD (emphysema), lung nodules, pneumonias, and sleep apnea most of the time. The history of KEY in figuring out what's wrong. I DEFINITELY listen to patients, but will stop them when they start talking about something no related that happend 10 years ago!!
If a doc doesn't listen, then go elsewhere. There are a lot of doc's who just want to take care of a few things and try to make everyone fit into one of the categories they can treat. Good luck.

[CollinsE90]

Originally Posted by aus

That links has some interesting stuff. I have achilles soreness after playing basketball but don't know what exercises to do to actually strengthen it.
I'm still not entirely sure what they want you to do, but I'll have to read it a few more times. Don't want to do it wrong and cause damage.



I'm a Pulmonologist. I deal with asthma, COPD (emphysema), lung nodules, pneumonias, and sleep apnea most of the time. The history of KEY in figuring out what's wrong. I DEFINITELY listen to patients, but will stop them when they start talking about something no related that happend 10 years ago!!
If a doc doesn't listen, then go elsewhere. There are a lot of doc's who just want to take care of a few things and try to make everyone fit into one of the categories they can treat. Good luck.

thats cool man, i thought about going into the medical field bc i like to solve things and like helping people(house is my favorite show, i know its not accurate but i just like the puzzles), but i just dont want to go through that long journey to get the med degree

[aus]

Originally Posted by CollinsE90

thats cool man, i thought about going into the medical field bc i like to solve things and like helping people(house is my favorite show, i know its not accurate but i just like the puzzles), but i just dont want to go through that long journey to get the med degree

I will have to say it's a DAMN LONG journey... and the pay is getting cut more and more each year. Almost all of us love what we do, but when you're getting cut each year, that means you have to see more patient's, which means less time with each patient. No matter what anyone say's about only wanting to help people, you still have rent to pay, employees who rely on you for a paycheck, and a family to feed. Then throw in the $200,000 in loans... good luck to the new grads.
The cost of schools is so insane now, it's really not a wise choice to go into medicine.

OP, good luck with your achilles. It takes many months to heal and may never truely heal. I still has pain after a game for a couple days and pray nothing pops. I've known people who were doing almost nothing (lightly push off to start a 10K run or run backwards) and pop it.

[DevJ]

Originally Posted by aus

I'm a Pulmonologist. I deal with asthma, COPD (emphysema), lung nodules, pneumonias, and sleep apnea most of the time. The history of KEY in figuring out what's wrong. I DEFINITELY listen to patients, but will stop them when they start talking about something no related that happend 10 years ago!!
If a doc doesn't listen, then go elsewhere. There are a lot of doc's who just want to take care of a few things and try to make everyone fit into one of the categories they can treat. Good luck.

Cool, my sister's boyfriend is a pulmonologist. She's starting neurology in the fall

[02themax]

That links has some interesting stuff. I have achilles soreness after playing basketball but don't know what exercises to do to actually strengthen it.
I'm still not entirely sure what they want you to do, but I'll have to read it a few more times. Don't want to do it wrong and cause damage.

Well for whats its worth I was getting soreness in both, ignored it, tore my right achilles. Healed up but started having problems with my left due to over compensating. To make a long story short after incorporating the swedish workout into my program I have no pain after 3 hours of hard ball. I still run in a competetive mens basketball league.

Seriously consider this if you want to keep ballin and reduce the risk of a rupture or tear. Again, good luck with everything!!

[Jlomb436]

Thanks folks. Headin to the Ortho on Monday morning, I'll see whats up then.

[aus]

Originally Posted by 02themax

That links has some interesting stuff. I have achilles soreness after playing basketball but don't know what exercises to do to actually strengthen it.
I'm still not entirely sure what they want you to do, but I'll have to read it a few more times. Don't want to do it wrong and cause damage.

Well for whats its worth I was getting soreness in both, ignored it, tore my right achilles. Healed up but started having problems with my left due to over compensating. To make a long story short after incorporating the swedish workout into my program I have no pain after 3 hours of hard ball. I still run in a competetive mens basketball league.

Seriously consider this if you want to keep ballin and reduce the risk of a rupture or tear. Again, good luck with everything!!

Thanks for the feedback.
Just to clarify, you start in the fully extented ("tippy toes") position and slowly lower yourself. Then use the other leg to lift yourself back up the tip toe position?

OP, good luck tomorrow, but you probably won't know much unless they get an MRI.
.

[02themax]

Originally Posted by aus

Thanks for the feedback.
Just to clarify, you start in the fully extented ("tippy toes") position and slowly lower yourself. Then use the other leg to lift yourself back up the tip toe position?

OP, good luck tomorrow, but you probably won't know much unless they get an MRI.
.

Yes exactly, but slowly lower yourself on one foot through a count of 10 seconds - thats one rep. Worked wonders for me, no more sore achilles.

[Jlomb436]

Okay, went and saw the ortho today. He seemed concerned that while he was applying pressure with his fingers to my achilles, I had no pain. He noticed that I had almost no fat below my heel, and viewed my x-ray.

He believes that I have a bone bruise at the bottom of my heel and that's whats causing my problems. I am confident that he knows what he is saying. I now have a cup looking device that squeezes the fat together on my heel to protect it, and he told me to wear it at all times and wear shoes with a nice heel at all times. I'm not sure how that's causing pain at the very back heel (bottom is obvious) so we'll see. Glad I'm at least making some progress.

[Jlomb436]

PS, the doc said that the lump on the side of my leg on the ankle, was probably just fat buildup. He sorta explained how it happens.

[JayKay335i]

Interesting. Glad its not worse and hope it gets resolved.

[bosstones]

Originally Posted by JayKay335i

The problem with an injury to your achilles is that its constantly pulled taught and keeps some of your calf muscles from shooting back up into your leg. Hard and long injury to heal.

This + less blood flow = long time to heal. I tweaked mine a couple times trading leg locks grappling. They're not very fun. If you are worried and don't feel your doc is doing much, you are always welcome to go seek a 2nd opinion. Someone in sports medicine would be useful.

edit: I see I'm a little late to the party.