[len56]

Originally Posted by CollinsE90

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/search...=1274066435465

these are all ZHP^^(i like the black one half way down for 15k, its a one owner) and dont even think about a 335 for 25k bc the extended warranty is 3k plus tax title and tag...that is not a car you want if you have to pay for everything yourself, unless you make more money ha

im telling you get a e46 ZHP, its a rare car and holds its value better than any other e46, id go with that and save the rest for any possible problems it might have(all BMWs will have problems) but this is a NA car and will most likely not have any major(like motor and tranny, but possible) issues at all. Just sensors,belts, some of the gadgets might go which are all routine with any german car...plus this car(ZHP) comes with everything possible in that year(id get a 05-06)...wont be as fast as a M3 but it will be quick and much cheaper to maintain than a ///M(just the parts on those can be outrageous)

do they offer this ZHP in Canada? I would check but I'm on my phone right now. I didn't see any when I was searching earlier though...

Originally Posted by BTM

If he's considering 7s then a ZSP might be a little too hardcore for him, there are a lot of good cars to be had for $25k.

OP, what are you looking for? Big and luxurious? Sporty and fast?

Have you looked at E9x 328s or E60 6 cylinder variants?

what exactly is a ZHP package? I looked at 328s and they would be great I just couldn't find one with premium package in the price range I'm going for. I'll check out the 5s tommorrow though

I'm going more towards big and luxurious because I'm just a stupid teenager (at least I'm self aware :P) and I'll prolly make some dumb speed related decisions if I have a sporty car

I really want a 7 but I just don't want to be stuck with a lemon :S ... A five could work though! I would take a 3 series too, but like I just mentioned I don't want to be tempted to do stupid things with it :/

Originally Posted by CollinsE90

he probably wants to throw Dub Dueces on the 7 seriez mayne, hints the sound system he wants etc...

and you meant ZHP , i have a ZSP bc i didnt feel like waiting to find the right ZHP as this is just my get me buy car as you know

awwww yeeeeee mayyyyneeeeee
no I just like my audio crisp and clear with solid base. I don't want those bone rattling subs in the trunk ... I AM SOFISTICATED :P

[CollinsE90]

Originally Posted by len56

do they offer this ZHP in Canada? I would check but I'm on my phone right now. I didn't see any when I was searching earlier though...


what exactly is a ZHP package? I looked at 328s and they would be great I just couldn't find one with premium package in the price range I'm going for. I'll check out the 5s tommorrow though

I'm going more towards big and luxurious because I'm just a stupid teenager (at least I'm self aware :P) and I'll prolly make some dumb speed related decisions if I have a sporty car

I really want a 7 but I just don't want to be stuck with a lemon :S ... A five could work though! I would take a 3 series too, but like I just mentioned I don't want to be tempted to do stupid things with it :/



awwww yeeeeee mayyyyneeeeee
no I just like my audio crisp and clear with solid base. I don't want those bone rattling subs in the trunk ... I AM SOFISTICATED :P

yea they brought them out in canada too, might be hard to find though
and i was just making sure you werent one of the kids that just want to look rich and flashy, good to hear you're not...here is what a ZHP is, get a napkin for the drool

Basically a 330 optioned with M-tech II and alcantara interior pack, and a bunch of engine and suspension upgrades. The MSRP for the package was $3900. Many US magazines consider the 330i ZHP to be one of the best handling/balanced BMWs to date. Below is a list that was on bmwusa.com. Only thing I can add to it is Imola Red paint, which is usually reserved for M cars.

Engine mods (new camshafts, electronics, & lighter flywheel) for 10HP & 8 ft/lb of torque increase & 6800 max RPM (from 6500).
6 speed short throw shifter
3.07:1 Final drive ratio (instead of 2.91:1)
Max Speed Limiter set to 155 mph (instead of 128)
New M suspension, more "sporty" than standard sport package:
Firmer springs (front +6%, rear +8%)
Firmer shocks (Jounce: front +50%, rear +20%), (Rebound: front +35%, rear -8%)
Larger diameter anti-roll bars: 23.5 mm front (v. 23.0), 18.5 mm rear (v. 18.0)
More rigid forward bushings
Lower ride height by 15 mm (.6 inches) utilizing shorter auxiliary springs
-.5 degrees of camber
BMW M exterior trim elements (front & rear fascia, side sills, & trunk lid spoiler)
Special exterior trim: Anthracite (charcoal) headlight & foglight surrounds, High-Gloss
Shadowline (black gloss) trim
Large diameter stainless steel dual exhaust outlets
Extra thick Alcantra steering wheel
Sport Seats
Alcantra & Cloth upholstry to replace leatherette and standard trim (leather still an option)
Choice of "Black Cube" or "Silver Cube" trim
Anthracite headliner
Red needles on the instrument cluster
Unique 18" Wheels (style 135M), 18x8.0" front, 18x8.5" rear
Wider Tires: 225/40ZR-18 in front and 255/35ZR-18 in the rear.
Steering ratio: ZHP has the steering ratio of 13.7:1. Non-ZHP cars as well as the E46 M3 is 15.4:1, and the E46 M3 Competition has ratio of 14.5:1.

[endofanera7]

A clean E46M3

[BTM]

Originally Posted by len56

do they offer this ZHP in Canada? I would check but I'm on my phone right now. I didn't see any when I was searching earlier though...


what exactly is a ZHP package? I looked at 328s and they would be great I just couldn't find one with premium package in the price range I'm going for. I'll check out the 5s tommorrow though

I'm going more towards big and luxurious because I'm just a stupid teenager (at least I'm self aware :P) and I'll prolly make some dumb speed related decisions if I have a sporty car

I really want a 7 but I just don't want to be stuck with a lemon :S ... A five could work though! I would take a 3 series too, but like I just mentioned I don't want to be tempted to do stupid things with it :/



awwww yeeeeee mayyyyneeeeee
no I just like my audio crisp and clear with solid base. I don't want those bone rattling subs in the trunk ... I AM SOFISTICATED :P

Yet can't spell sophisticated...

You should be able to find an 07 or maybe even 08 328 with premium package for under 25k no problem. For a young person the 5 might cost more in insurance than it is worth to pay for one, I'd drive what's out there, but I can speak from experience I was able to find 325/328s all day under 25k when searching for my E9x...whatever you do don't drive a 335, I never planned on buying one and just to see I test drove one. A week later I bought one.

[bosstones]

ZHP:

[len56]

Originally Posted by CollinsE90

yea they brought them out in canada too, might be hard to find though
and i was just making sure you werent one of the kids that just want to look rich and flashy, good to hear you're not...here is what a ZHP is, get a napkin for the drool

Basically a 330 optioned with M-tech II and alcantara interior pack, and a bunch of engine and suspension upgrades. The MSRP for the package was $3900. Many US magazines consider the 330i ZHP to be one of the best handling/balanced BMWs to date. Below is a list that was on bmwusa.com. Only thing I can add to it is Imola Red paint, which is usually reserved for M cars.

Engine mods (new camshafts, electronics, & lighter flywheel) for 10HP & 8 ft/lb of torque increase & 6800 max RPM (from 6500).
6 speed short throw shifter
3.07:1 Final drive ratio (instead of 2.91:1)
Max Speed Limiter set to 155 mph (instead of 128)
New M suspension, more "sporty" than standard sport package:
Firmer springs (front +6%, rear +8%)
Firmer shocks (Jounce: front +50%, rear +20%), (Rebound: front +35%, rear -8%)
Larger diameter anti-roll bars: 23.5 mm front (v. 23.0), 18.5 mm rear (v. 18.0)
More rigid forward bushings
Lower ride height by 15 mm (.6 inches) utilizing shorter auxiliary springs
-.5 degrees of camber
BMW M exterior trim elements (front & rear fascia, side sills, & trunk lid spoiler)
Special exterior trim: Anthracite (charcoal) headlight & foglight surrounds, High-Gloss
Shadowline (black gloss) trim
Large diameter stainless steel dual exhaust outlets
Extra thick Alcantra steering wheel
Sport Seats
Alcantra & Cloth upholstry to replace leatherette and standard trim (leather still an option)
Choice of "Black Cube" or "Silver Cube" trim
Anthracite headliner
Red needles on the instrument cluster
Unique 18" Wheels (style 135M), 18x8.0" front, 18x8.5" rear
Wider Tires: 225/40ZR-18 in front and 255/35ZR-18 in the rear.
Steering ratio: ZHP has the steering ratio of 13.7:1. Non-ZHP cars as well as the E46 M3 is 15.4:1, and the E46 M3 Competition has ratio of 14.5:1.

can I have a mop please? :P it looks damn sexy in the picture that was posted :O
I'll be sure to look for one...

Originally Posted by BTM

Yet can't spell sophisticated...

You should be able to find an 07 or maybe even 08 328 with premium package for under 25k no problem. For a young person the 5 might cost more in insurance than it is worth to pay for one, I'd drive what's out there, but I can speak from experience I was able to find 325/328s all day under 25k when searching for my E9x...whatever you do don't drive a 335, I never planned on buying one and just to see I test drove one. A week later I bought one.

y'all didn't understand my high-larious joke :P don't worry, I can spell sophisticated.

I'll look again (what I meant by premium was navi and logic7, sorry for confusion)

[shuarma]

OP-- did you skip my post or something? you can get a 2007 e90 (sedan) 335i for 25. i would take that over an e46 m3 any day seeing how a $500 electrical mod for the 335 can have you beating stock e46 m3's.

[len56]

Originally Posted by shuarma

OP-- did you skip my post or something? you can get a 2007 e90 (sedan) 335i for 25. i would take that over an e46 m3 any day seeing how a $500 electrical mod for the 335 can have you beating stock e46 m3's.

ty, but I'm not sure if i want such a fast car like i mentioned earlier... don't want to end up in a ditch :P

[Kroy]

Why don't you check out a nice 135?

[len56]

Originally Posted by Kroy

Why don't you check out a nice 135?

i need space for friends lol

[BTM]

And the 135 is every bit as fast as a 335.

328/525 are your friends or 528 if you can find a decent example in your price range

[mpimping]

Prebangle 740 or m3 99 or 03 m3 or maybe e36 m3

[mpimping]

Originally Posted by BTM

Yet can't spell sophisticated...

You should be able to find an 07 or maybe even 08 328 with premium package for under 25k no problem. For a young person the 5 might cost more in insurance than it is worth to pay for one, I'd drive what's out there, but I can speak from experience I was able to find 325/328s all day under 25k when searching for my E9x...whatever you do don't drive a 335, I never planned on buying one and just to see I test drove one. A week later I bought one.

ll

lol end of thread

[BillLee]

get a e39

[CollinsE90]

Originally Posted by BillLee

get a e39

you put the best looking part of the car, the rest is so ugly IMO...i used to have one and i hated how that thing looked

[lux.sh]

Originally Posted by CollinsE90

you put the best looking part of the car, the rest is so ugly IMO...i used to have one and i hated how that thing looked

You have a lot of hate for good cars. E46 that you drive lives up to all your picky needs?

[Alexander]

Originally Posted by CollinsE90

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/search...=1274066435465

these are all ZHP^^(i like the black one half way down for 15k, its a one owner) and dont even think about a 335 for 25k bc the extended warranty is 3k plus tax title and tag...that is not a car you want if you have to pay for everything yourself, unless you make more money ha

im telling you get a e46 ZHP, its a rare car and holds its value better than any other e46, id go with that and save the rest for any possible problems it might have(all BMWs will have problems) but this is a NA car and will most likely not have any major(like motor and tranny, but possible) issues at all. Just sensors,belts, some of the gadgets might go which are all routine with any german car...plus this car(ZHP) comes with everything possible in that year(id get a 05-06)...wont be as fast as a M3 but it will be quick and much cheaper to maintain than a ///M(just the parts on those can be outrageous)

Lol that's my old car. Maybe...

[Alexander]

Originally Posted by Aonarch

Lol that's my old car. Maybe...

I bought my E90 from a European specialist for 22 cash back in 2009. It had 36,000 on the clock and was in perfect shape.

[BTM]

Originally Posted by CollinsE90

you put the best looking part of the car, the rest is so ugly IMO...i used to have one and i hated how that thing looked

Really? You're probably the first person I've heard with that opinion. I love the E39...crisp lines, understated, classic. Looks so good in M5 guise too

[CollinsE90]

Originally Posted by lux.sh

You have a lot of hate for good cars. E46 that you drive lives up to all your picky needs?

e46 and e9x are the sexiest BMWs on the road to me, i like the old e30, like the e60...but the e39,e36 doesnt do it for me...i drove a e39 for 2 years and loved the feel but i hated the look to it, but its just my opinion

Originally Posted by BTM

Really? You're probably the first person I've heard with that opinion. I love the E39...crisp lines, understated, classic. Looks so good in M5 guise too

maybe its my age, but im just not a fan of the e39, and like i said above i owned one for 2 years...just didnt like the look...dad bought it for me and i had no choice what it was, but it began my love for BMW, i just wasnt a huge fan of the e39, i would of rather had a e46, but you take what you get and be happy

[BTM]

I'm only a year older than you

To each his own

[CollinsE90]

Originally Posted by BTM

I'm only a year older than you

To each his own

yea i know, maybe it was because mine was a old 97 e39, but i just dont like the long body long pointed nose etc...