[texasmojo]

Originally Posted by CollinsE90

if they wanted that they could just brodcast it free at all Autozones

Say what you want but Latinos are the biggest fight fans.

[ghosthi32]

Originally Posted by texasmojo

Say what you want but Latinos are the biggest fight fans.

he didnt say they werent...

[richardbb85]

it seem to me brock can't take the hits......from carwin/cain, as soon as brock got hits, he was on the ground blocking like a weirdo. don't know how to explain, i am sure you guys understand if you watched his last 2 fights.

[richardbb85]

[import36]

Originally Posted by richardbb85

that is effing hilarious!!

i thought he was employing the monkey style like the guy in BloodSport.

[JohnSprm69]

Originally Posted by beshaw81

the formula is a mix of wrestling, stand-up, and bjj, and most successful fighters have a mix of all except for lesnar which has none.

fixed.T


bottom line is i think he sucks as a fighter in anyway you look at it. his fighting style is simply take you down and sit on you till the round is over. personally i like to see a technical fight be it on the ground or a standup match lesnar cannot bring to the ring any of the two, therefore i don't like the guy as a ufc fighter and why i think he does not belong in the ufc, but then again that is just my opinion.

[iBoost]

Finally Lesnar got his ass handed to him like he should have a long time ago. He's just a big ass monster with not as much talent as the best in UFC.

@ the queers that are still jumping on Lesnar's nuts "it was rigged" hahaha

Congrats to Velasquez in his well deserved victory! Viva la Raza!

[monaroCountry]

The Cain versus Brock fight exposed 2 UFC/Zuffa myths…….


From R3D @ TeamTakeOver

1. "NEW BREED"

Over the last 2 years, people like Dana White, Joe Rogan and others from ZUFFA did an impressive job of making MILLIONS of casual viewers BELIEVE that there was some kind of "NEW BREED" of HWs that ONLY EXISTED in the UFC and couldnt be found anywhere else. They made it seem like being bigger made fighters BETTER (Mir fell for this). They made it seem like Royce Gracie didnt come in there almost 20 YEARS AGO and build the sport of MMA on idea of SKILL>>>>>>>>>>>>>muscles like Brock and Carwin and the worst thing is the FANS BELIEVED THIS. THE MEDIA BELIEVED THIS. They made the whole country believe that a guy like Brock is "THE BADDEST MAN ON THE PLANET" That statement ALONE ERASES EVERYTHING ROYCE EVER DID (and Fedor Emelianenko’s achievements), and takes our great sport back 20 years by making statements like that in 2010.

There needed to be a change. This couldnt fly for much longer. The "NEW BREED" term which was a Zuffa tactic to discredit guys like Fedor turned out to be a bunch guys with no muscle endurance (Carwin), no skill or heart (Brock), glass jaw and no cardio (Dufee) I love how the ball never lies and fights change everything and all those wont combine for 20+ career wins between the 3 of them. I love how Cain regularly fights at 240lbs and is 6'1 and proved that the best HWs dont have to be juiced faggots with no skill and put this sport where it should be in terms of what a HW champion is. What Im saying is 90% of American UFC fans, were NOOBS until last night. Big Up to Cain for setting the record straight on what a REAL HW CHAMP is.

2. "The best HW's are in the UFC"

Last night Cain made it very clear that there are only 2 great HWs in the UFC. They are Cain "El Terrible" Velasquez and Junior "Cigano" Dos Santos. Everyone else in the UFC is NOTHING SPECIAL. The best HWs are NOT in the UFC. This myth was juiced for almost 3 years and that DIED a cowards a death last night. I’ve been saying forever that Cain will murder Brock and that Dos Santos comes right after Cain as the two best HWs in the UFC. Outside of that, UFC has a bunch of B-Level low skilled, glass jawed, unprofessional cardio, cage hugging and a few washed up legends like Big Nog and Mirko.

Im glad that Zuffa will need to take a different marketing approach now and will be forced to be more honest to their fans about whose badass and who’s just a cash cow like Brock. Calling Brock "The Baddest Man on the planet" is terrible for the sport, dishonest to its fans, and counterproductive in every way possible. From now on we will be seeing who is truly great and the era of fighters like Brock, Carwin, Duffee being hyped as anything is OVER.

For those new to MMA, educate yourself and watch two HW fighters who genuinely deserving of their title as the baddest man in the planet:
Fedor Emelianenko – top level Sambo and Judo
Igor Vovchanchyn – top level Sambo and Kickboxing

[nightkhan]

Originally Posted by monaroCountry

The Cain versus Brock fight exposed 2 UFC/Zuffa myths…….


From R3D @ TeamTakeOver


For those new to MMA, educate yourself and watch two HW fighters who genuinely deserving of their title as the baddest man in the planet:
Fedor Emelianenko – top level Sambo and Judo
Igor Vovchanchyn – top level Sambo and Kickboxing

Fedor is a fucking beast!

here's a cool sports science video on Cain's physicality:

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2010/10/2...0-lbs-of-force

2230 lbs of force in his punch!!

[escobar929]

Originally Posted by monaroCountry

The Cain versus Brock fight exposed 2 UFC/Zuffa myths…….


From R3D @ TeamTakeOver


For those new to MMA, educate yourself and watch two HW fighters who genuinely deserving of their title as the baddest man in the planet:
Fedor Emelianenko – top level Sambo and Judo
Igor Vovchanchyn – top level Sambo and Kickboxing

I like Fedor, he is a monster but I dont wanna hear about him being so deserving of a tittle after he got owned by a guy who couldnt cut it against the sub par HWs is the UFC. He is a great fighter, just saying

[NYCGarbagePrince]

Don't try and tell me his wins were against nobodies... because that is horse shit. The man may very well be one of the greatest fighters in the last 100 years. It isn't his fault that this sport became mainstream after his glory years.

[OC Guy]

Originally Posted by monaroCountry

For those new to MMA, educate yourself and watch two HW fighters who genuinely deserving of their title as the baddest man in the planet:
Fedor Emelianenko – top level Sambo and Judo
Igor Vovchanchyn – top level Sambo and Kickboxing

Igor has been done for quite awhile and is well past his prime.

Originally Posted by richardbb85

it seem to me brock can't take the hits......from carwin/cain, as soon as brock got hits, he was on the ground blocking like a weirdo. don't know how to explain, i am sure you guys understand if you watched his last 2 fights.

Except Carwin/Cain are two of the hardest hitters in the HW division...

People tend to forget Brock has skills but they are overshadowed by his physical nature. The guy was a D1 Wrestling champ and submitted Carwin with BJJ. He has improved quite a bit since he first joined the UFC but obviously he is quite inexperienced.

[graider]

i want to see fedor and overeem in UFC now.

[FStop7]

Guys like Fedor, Overeem and Monson would shit all over 80% of the guys in UFC. Real talk.

[OC Guy]

Originally Posted by FStop7

Guys like Fedor, Overeem and Monson would shit all over 80% of the guys in UFC. Real talk.

Fedor is a given.
Jeff Monson hasn't defeated anyone big in years. I don't know about that.
Overeem wouldn't pass a piss test and when's the last time he defeated or even faced a top 10 HW? Who and when again?

[FStop7]

Isn't Overeem pretty anxious to get a shot at Fedor?

[graider]

Originally Posted by FStop7

Isn't Overeem pretty anxious to get a shot at Fedor?

he want wardim since he beat fedor. overeem is a real warrier, only want to fight the best.

[TiAg335i]

overeem is a freak of nature...he would utterly destroy any heavyweight in the UFC

[san~man]

Steroids does a body good!

Why would Fedor jump back into Werdum's guard after he almost got caught in the arm bar the first time?

[texasmojo]

Originally Posted by TiAg335i

overeem is a freak of nature...he would utterly destroy any heavyweight in the UFC

I dont think so. He is good and all but someone like cain can negate him by wrestling and far better gas tank. Congo the pure striker almost had cain and i think cain vs overeem would be similar. Overeem is only dangerous on standup. And thats it. Roiders gas fast. Overeem has many many losses and alot of them to smaller guys. Dont be fooled by his bret rogers win.

[OC Guy]

Originally Posted by texasmojo

I dont think so. He is great and all but someone like cain can negate him by wrestling and far better gas tank. Congo the pure striker almost had cain and i think cain vs overeem would be similar. Overeem is only dangerous on standup. And thats it. Roiders gas fast. Overeem has many many losses and alot of them to smaller guys. Dont be fooled by his bret rogers win.

Not necessarily true. Plenty of athletes use steroids and it does not necessarily mean they gas fast. Examples in the UFC of guys with great cardio that used roids are Sean Sherk and Stephan Bonnar. Please don't spread myths you obviously know nothing about.

Overeem has pretty good BJJ. He tapped out all his opponents in the ADCC trials in Europe in 2005. In fact, he has subbed out more opponents than he has knocked them out.

Where do you get your information from again?

[E91 Dude]

Overeem's keylock on Mark Hunt was MEAN. His guillotine is really good too (he's had that before he became jumbo sized). I don't know about all the steroid talk though, word on the street is he gets his power from eating unicorns. Plus, he passed his drug test when he beat Brett Rogers.