[The__J__Factor]

Originally Posted by RingMeister01

WNothMW this far behind in the game? Carbon brakes are taking forever to be released while the competition has had this option for years. Twin turbo V8 is only new to the M5 but has been under the hood of competing German cars for some time. Case in point. Is BMW afraid to take risks? Or are they just letting others do the experiment so BMW can analyze if those moves deem profitable for them?

You say this like the v10 was nothing.

[RingMeister01]

Originally Posted by The__J__Factor

You say this like the v10 was nothing.

The E60 M5 was GOD. It is out of production and has been replaced, hasn't it?
So what's your point?

[mattokeol]

The M5 is a real disappointment. Is was usually to most powerfull in class.

[RingMeister01]

Originally Posted by mattokeol

The M5 is a real disappointment. Is was usually to most powerfull in class.

+1

[TheBingoBalls]

Threads like this result in heated debates as the direction BMW is heading.

What's funny is people in this thread actually want a xDrive M5 but if BMW came out with one before the news of the E63 becoming 4Matic only, how many of you would say or react negatively saying BMW totally lost their ways, first turbos now AWD on M5? I mean people are actually complaining that BMW is "late" to the game?

[Year's_End]

Fantastic upgrade. That face will most likely be a template for future AMG fascias. As much as I love the corporate predator-faced bumper graphics that are a current AMG trademark, I think this looks both more solid and sophisticated.

I'm not excited about the jump to mandatory AWD (at least in the states). RWD hooliganistics are synonymous with the brand's caricature style. I think this is an unfortunate move necessitated by everyone wanting better performance numbers. I wouldn't give a fuck about straightline stats and lap times if I was a prospective AMG buyer. I want burnouts, powerslides and loud noise.

[Ti335]

Interesting:

[RingMeister01]

Originally Posted by Ti335

Interesting:

Very interesting

[RingMeister01]

Originally Posted by Year's_End

I want burnouts, powerslides and loud noise.

+1000

[Year's_End]

Originally Posted by Ti335

Interesting:

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Coincidence and nothing else. You have to be insane to think that these two designs—both which are thoroughly refined—were a matter of copying one or the other.

There's this concept that many car enthusiasts can't seem to grasp; it's called trending design. Enlarged outer ducts with inserted trim pieces/3D graphics have been increasingly popular and are taking over the traditional 3-section lower fascia template.

[swanson]

Ones a concept and ones a real car.