[Murf993]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

It's similar here as well. I'm taking the car and recommending for suspension in some cases. The guy cruising along the 15 freeway to Vegas at 100 mph is different than the guy weaving in between cars and traversing multiple lanes at 100 mph.

There is always that. I always exercised my discretion, some folks make mistakes and the fines might be the family groceries for the week so I always tried to treat people fairly who deserved a break. But you're right, there are lots of ass hats out there who need the big stick. I miss dealing with those folks.

[paquet]

Ass hat with a big stick here. er i mean wait...

[UncleWede]

Originally Posted by packet

Ass hat with a big stick here. er i mean wait...

are we waiting about the ass, or the big stick claim

[jamesinaz]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

It's similar here as well. I'm taking the car and recommending for suspension in some cases. The guy cruising along the 15 freeway to Vegas at 100 mph is different than the guy weaving in between cars and traversing multiple lanes at 100 mph.

I remember 20 years ago I was driving from San Jose to Phoenix middle of the night. I hit CA-AZ border at midnight and pulled onto the highway after a quick stop along the border town for gas. I spot a semi flying along so what the heck - I figure if there is a cop shooting radar he will get it before I do and tailed the semi. I mean - 18 wheeler danger versus Mercedes sedan?

I got the cruise control set to 100 and didn't touch the gas or brake for over an hour. I didn't know those things could go that fast. Yowzah.

[paquet]

Originally Posted by UncleWede

are we waiting about the ass, or the big stick claim

Only the Shadow (cast by my bathroom mirror) knows...

[Joekerr]

Originally Posted by Murf993

And they just ammended this law so that if you are 40KMH over the limit in a speed zone below 80KMH you will be charged.

Yeah...I know...I brought this up to a friend who is also an officer and how I wasn't a huge fan of the new 40 km/h over law.

He naturally asked if I felt I needed to do 40 over in a 60 or less.

Soooo....no...I don't *need* to. But there are times and places is my point. If I'm in town or in a neighbourhood / school zone, no, and actually I try very hard to do less than 10 over at most in these cases.

But there are far too many side roads in Ontario that are (IMO) improperly marked at 60, when they should be 80. And I'm ok with the 50kmh over rule (more or less), but the 40km/h law bugs me for some reason. I think it is just because I suspect it will get progressively tighter, instead of doing anything at all about making licensing harder.

[upstatedoc]

Do the crime, pay the time

[Joekerr]

^

[Murf993]

Originally Posted by Joekerr

Yeah...I know...I brought this up to a friend who is also an officer and how I wasn't a huge fan of the new 40 km/h over law.

He naturally asked if I felt I needed to do 40 over in a 60 or less.

Soooo....no...I don't *need* to. But there are times and places is my point. If I'm in town or in a neighbourhood / school zone, no, and actually I try very hard to do less than 10 over at most in these cases.

But there are far too many side roads in Ontario that are (IMO) improperly marked at 60, when they should be 80. And I'm ok with the 50kmh over rule (more or less), but the 40km/h law bugs me for some reason. I think it is just because I suspect it will get progressively tighter, instead of doing anything at all about making licensing harder.

I don't disagree with your view on our speed limits. Hwy 401 is a great example, originally built in the 1960's with a speed limit of 70MPH, the road has been improved as have cars suspension, tires and breaking and yet the speed limit is now lowered to 100KHM (62MPH), the speed limit should be at least 120KPH.

[S1nner]

I was stopped doing over 30mph in NY a few years ago. Officer told me that normally he would handcuff and put me in jail, but since I'm from IL he's going to write a ticket.
I didn't want that moving violation in my record, so started looking for lawyers, etc. in the area, but no one sounded promising, so decided I'll send it to court and try my luck.
Luckily I got a mail a few weeks later, stating that I don't have to show up for court, but instead was offered to pay 2 parking tickets = 200$.
Lucky me I guess, but lesson learned.

[Lady Jane]

There you go...


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[Sedan_Clan]

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CVfvbeH...dium=copy_link

This kid has vision.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CVfvbeH...dium=copy_link

This kid has vision.

Have you had your 911 delivered yet Sedan.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Have you had your 911 delivered yet Sedan.

It's set to arrive early/mid Feb. My freeze date is 11/17/21.

[NorCalAthlete]

An approach to speeding / driving I think would be a monumental overhaul effort but well worth it in the end (figure ~10 years for full data on adoption / effects):

1. Tiered license system. For both motorcycles and cars / trucks / SUVs. You get the bottom tier license, you're stuck with anything under [hp / weight ratio limit or just hp limit]. 2nd tier gets you most stuff. 3rd tier gets you "performance" cars / trim packages. 4th tier gets you the sports cars / top of the line stuff. Similar with motorcycles - 300cc and under; 301cc - 750cc; 751cc - 1000cc; 1000cc+. Each tier comes with progressively more training requirements and stringent testing, but with an appropriate reduction in insurance costs, tickets, etc (along with granting you the ability to purchase the vehicle to begin with).

2. More frequent / stringent licensing in general. You get a DUI where you total your car, 3 others, half a storefront, a manhole cover somehow, and a traffic light? Buh bye license for ohhhhh, 10 years? Injure + kill someone and you're at fault? Lose your license for 2x the equivalent of how long you'd spend in jail for homicide - IF you don't go to jail for it. No buying it back either. Get caught riding dirty after the fact? Do not pass go, do not collect $200, right back to jail you go. License testing revamped to include more reversing, parking, parallel parking, merging, etc - and must be in an appropriate vehicle for the tier you're testing for. So if you know you're gonna go out and buy a turbo 'busa, no borrowing your girlfriend's moped for the keyhole test. Oh, and you have to get a truck / SUV qualifier kinda like your M1 is additional to your C license, or various commercial certs. So for those of you taking the license test in your mom's Civic and then buying an Escalade...no more of that either. License recertification - including full retesting - every 10 years for bottom tier, 8 years for mid tier, and 3-5 years for top / performance tiers.

3. Stiffer penalties, tied to, say, your car's value or your income, for various offenses. A speeding fine that costs $500 and an insurance bump is huge for someone making $50k a year. It's a "have my secretary pay my fine" for someone making $500k / year. It's not even a deterrent at that point. But if a reckless + speeding ticket costs, say, 20% of your car's value, and you have a Ferrari, well, that's gonna sting a lot more. (For example, I know someone clearing well into the 6 figures whose insurance was over $450 / month until recently. For one car. And it wasn't even an expensive luxury car, just American muscle.)

Of course, this is all mostly a pipe dream, and the legislation for it would probably end up so full of holes and exemptions as to be toothless, but hey...it'd probably be pretty damn effective at improving safety on the roads over time, to the point where speed limits would be of far lesser concern and we could work on removing them on most freeways...

[M5Rick]

^ I agree completely to the suv qualifier licences,a very stiff German like exam test is needed.

[Fly320s]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CVfvbeH...dium=copy_link

This kid has vision.

That is awesome. I hope someone can take him to a shooting range to get some time with real guns.

[F30lolz]

Me: officer, why do you smell so bad?
Officer: ……… -.- ……….
Me: because you’re on duty!
Me:
Officer:

[upstatedoc]

Originally Posted by F30lolz

Me: officer, why do you smell so bad?
Officer: ……… -.- ……….
Me: because you’re on duty!
Me:
Officer:

Banned

[UncleWede]

Originally Posted by upstatedoc

Banned

Because no posting from jail

[upstatedoc]

Originally Posted by NorCalAthlete

An approach to speeding / driving I think would be a monumental overhaul effort but well worth it in the end (figure ~10 years for full data on adoption / effects):

1. Tiered license system. For both motorcycles and cars / trucks / SUVs. You get the bottom tier license, you're stuck with anything under [hp / weight ratio limit or just hp limit]. 2nd tier gets you most stuff. 3rd tier gets you "performance" cars / trim packages. 4th tier gets you the sports cars / top of the line stuff. Similar with motorcycles - 300cc and under; 301cc - 750cc; 751cc - 1000cc; 1000cc+. Each tier comes with progressively more training requirements and stringent testing, but with an appropriate reduction in insurance costs, tickets, etc (along with granting you the ability to purchase the vehicle to begin with).

2. More frequent / stringent licensing in general. You get a DUI where you total your car, 3 others, half a storefront, a manhole cover somehow, and a traffic light? Buh bye license for ohhhhh, 10 years? Injure + kill someone and you're at fault? Lose your license for 2x the equivalent of how long you'd spend in jail for homicide - IF you don't go to jail for it. No buying it back either. Get caught riding dirty after the fact? Do not pass go, do not collect $200, right back to jail you go. License testing revamped to include more reversing, parking, parallel parking, merging, etc - and must be in an appropriate vehicle for the tier you're testing for. So if you know you're gonna go out and buy a turbo 'busa, no borrowing your girlfriend's moped for the keyhole test. Oh, and you have to get a truck / SUV qualifier kinda like your M1 is additional to your C license, or various commercial certs. So for those of you taking the license test in your mom's Civic and then buying an Escalade...no more of that either. License recertification - including full retesting - every 10 years for bottom tier, 8 years for mid tier, and 3-5 years for top / performance tiers.

3. Stiffer penalties, tied to, say, your car's value or your income, for various offenses. A speeding fine that costs $500 and an insurance bump is huge for someone making $50k a year. It's a "have my secretary pay my fine" for someone making $500k / year. It's not even a deterrent at that point. But if a reckless + speeding ticket costs, say, 20% of your car's value, and you have a Ferrari, well, that's gonna sting a lot more. (For example, I know someone clearing well into the 6 figures whose insurance was over $450 / month until recently. For one car. And it wasn't even an expensive luxury car, just American muscle.)

Of course, this is all mostly a pipe dream, and the legislation for it would probably end up so full of holes and exemptions as to be toothless, but hey...it'd probably be pretty damn effective at improving safety on the roads over time, to the point where speed limits would be of far lesser concern and we could work on removing them on most freeways...

So….what's in this for you?

[Joekerr]

Originally Posted by upstatedoc

So….what's in this for you?

Based on how North Americans drive, probably a much quicker commute since there will be significantly less traffic on the roads as 50% would likely fail even the most basic tier.

I'm with him - that could be nice. Only issue then is my speed would really stick out like a sore thumb to the bored officer at the side of the road. Maybe we need the idiots after all.