[vanguard8]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Was this some ad hominem attack about what you think my aptitude is for corporate world skills. You know nothing about me. You have no idea what I did professionally BEFORE deciding to enter law enforcement. Don't assume I'm meathead with no skills. I lived an entirely different CORPORATE life before taking up service.

I am sorry.
It was a joke.
Nobody here should make too many assumptions, for sure!

[vanguard8]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

....
A teen lifeguard diving into hurricane waters is still a bad judgment call (….if we agree that self-preservation is the #1 priority), however noble and courageous the act. Sometimes the intervention available isn't the best option for intervention, BUT it is still better than no intervention at all. Like I said earlier, heroes place themselves at risk in an effort to save and/or protect others even though it's detrimental to themselves as individuals.

They were paid $10. a day, up to $20. a day. How could they not?
It was expected.

[UncleWede]

On the lifeguard thingy:
The first thing we always learned in LG training, was to NOT become victim #2.


But, Eddie would go. And many of us still remember him.

[vanguard8]

Originally Posted by UncleWede

On the lifeguard thingy:
The first thing we always learned in LG training, was to NOT become victim #2.


But, Eddie would go. And many of us still remember him.

Sh!t happens(to the best of us). My town never lost a swimmer, or guard.
But hurricanes could be fun! (ex-guards only)
We had the son of the first woman to swim the English Channel.

Did you have "Percy the Pervert" who tried to help all the little girls who got knocked down by the surf?

[vanguard8]

So, what did we learn from yesterday's discussion?
-That is isn't OK to send a teen into the wild surf to save a life, even when well trained & supervised.
-It is OK when an unsupervised minor teen goes into a curfew area with the intent to use deadly force if necessary, to protect property.

(this post is not meant to antagonize)

[Fly320s]

Originally Posted by vanguard13

(this post is not meant to antagonize)

Yeah it is.

[UncleWede]

Originally Posted by vanguard13

Did you have "Percy the Pervert" who tried to help all the little girls who got knocked down by the surf?

I was TRAINED, but only so I could surf at the military installation where I worked as a civilian. It was required that all in the "surf club" be trained lifeguards. Military could bring 2 guests, civies only one. Somebody in the club had to go to OoD's office, check out the surf flag, and run it up the pole to tell Security that the beach was indeed open, and a trained lifeguard was present.

No little girls.

Funny story (to me) when I got trained the first time, it was at some daycare center pool, and the instructor was just trying to get all her teen assistants trained so the pool there could be opened. Being 5'10" 190lbs of solid muscle (at the time) she made me fill the part of real rescue victim. Everyone else had to be able to at least get me hanging over the coping of the pool before she would pass them. I got pushed under so many times, and my ribs were scraped worse than surfing bareback.

On the way home, after dark, I got pulled over by CHP (alleged speeding 85+ and pulling away from the officer) When I told him my '75 Volvo 245 4-cyclinder was incapable of such speeds, I had seen him on the onramp, looked down and was doing 68, and didn't vary from that speed until he hit his lights, he then wanted to discuss my bloodshot eyes. I related the above LG story, offered to allow him to touch my wet bathing suit (in the bag, not on my waist) and then he thanked me for being prepared.

[Lady Jane]

Peaceful demonstrator.




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[NorCalAthlete]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

I totally agree. I've tried to impress upon them that line of thinking, but they are stubborn.

Show them the video of the recent barber shooting, and ask them "what if that was you getting your hair done, and it was your hairdresser's angry ex boyfriend / husband / etc?"

[vanguard8]

Originally Posted by Fly320s

Yeah it is.

Gd help us, nasty internet mind readers....

If you can't win on merit....

Haters gonna hate. (meant with disappointment)

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by vanguard13

Gd help us, nasty mind readers....

If you can't win on merit....

Haters gonna hate. (meant with disappointment)

Your tone is eerily familiar. New avatar skin, same ol' behavior.

[vanguard8]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Your tone is eerily familiar. New avatar skin, same ol' behavior.

I really hoped for better from the Ladies & Gentlemen here.


Full Definition of cynic

1 : a faultfinding captious critic especially : one who believes that human conduct is motivated wholly by self-interest.
ex: "Of course, there will always be cynics when companies make good-faith apologies and seek to follow through." — Andrew Ross Sorkin

[upstatedoc]

I am watching body cam again. I don't think any of you guys are canine officers? What do you think about the future of police canines.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by upstatedoc

I am watching body cam again. I don't think any of you guys are canine officers? What do you think about the future of police canines.

On my department the K9 handlers are part of our Special Enforcement Bureau; the equivalent of a SWAT team. Canines are extremely valuable resources that pay dividends whenever there is a large area, building, etc. that needs to be searched. In addition, K9's limit officer exposure/injury.

[Murf993]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

On my department the K9 handlers are part of our Special Enforcement Bureau; the equivalent of a SWAT team. Canines are extremely valuable resources that pay dividends whenever there is a large area, building, etc. that needs to be searched. In addition, K9's limit officer exposure/injury.

I was always very happy when the dog and handler showed up.

[Sedan_Clan]

Happy Thanksgiving everybody.

[Lady Jane]

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[Murf993]

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This is brilliant, the fact is coppers do the right thing so often but it goes un-recognized. Peace out bitches.

[vreihen16]

A downstate NY Trooper had his patrol car sideswiped by a passing box truck yesterday while stopped on the shoulder of the NYS Thruway. He is OK, but the pictures from the news today are a reminder to everyone about being extra-vigilant for workers and emergency vehicles on the shoulder.....





https://hudsonvalleypost.com/hudson-...e-car-on-i-87/

[King Rudi]

Originally Posted by Murf993

This is brilliant, the fact is coppers do the right thing so often but it goes un-recognized. Peace out bitches.

This is just strange to me. I once called the police to tell them that I was drunk, alone and horny. Female officer's were not dispatched to assist me. Maybe it's because I'm not Italian.

[Murf993]

Originally Posted by King Rudi

This is just strange to me. I once called the police to tell them that I was drunk, alone and horny. Female officer's were not dispatched to assist me. Maybe it's because I'm not Italian.

I'm shocked that didn't work out for you, but hey if at first you don't succeed....

[King Rudi]

Originally Posted by Murf993

I'm shocked that didn't work out for you, but hey if at first you don't succeed....

Now had I told them that I was in public, helicopters would have been deployed.