The official "Ask a cop/deputy anything!" thread

Joekerr · 12-01-2021, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by King Rudi

This is just strange to me. I once called the police to tell them that I was drunk, alone and horny. Female officer's were not dispatched to assist me. Maybe it's because I'm not Italian.

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Originally Posted by Murf993

I'm shocked that didn't work out for you, but hey if at first you don't succeed....

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Originally Posted by King Rudi

Now had I told them that I was in public, helicopters would have been deployed.

Very true - you can't beat an aerial viewpoint, and I've heard Fail Army is paying a decent amount for video submissions that get selected these days. Poor coppers just trying to supplement their wages is all.

Sedan_Clan · 12-01-2021, 09:04 PM

Updated numbers!

NorCalAthlete · 12-02-2021, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by vreihen16

A downstate NY Trooper had his patrol car sideswiped by a passing box truck yesterday while stopped on the shoulder of the NYS Thruway. He is OK, but the pictures from the news today are a reminder to everyone about being extra-vigilant for workers and emergency vehicles on the shoulder.....

https://hudsonvalleypost.com/hudson-...e-car-on-i-87/

Nobody pays attention to shit in the middle of the road, let alone the shoulder...

Warning - kinda horrific, no info on injuries that I know of yet.

vanguard8 · 12-02-2021, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Updated numbers!

"Five times as many police officers have died from Covid-19 as from gunfire since start of pandemic
By Ryan Young, Jason Morris and Ray Sanchez, CNN"

"If you are serious about your commitment to protect the public ... and if you are serious about your personal commitments to your family, then that should be enough," Jessica Desfosses said in a plea for police officers to get vaccinated."

Because, covid never stops with infecting "just you".

https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/16/us/po...ths/index.html

Sedan_Clan · 12-02-2021, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by vanguard13

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Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Updated numbers!

"Five times as many police officers have died from Covid-19 as from gunfire since start of pandemic
By Ryan Young, Jason Morris and Ray Sanchez, CNN"

"If you are serious about your commitment to protect the public ... and if you are serious about your personal commitments to your family, then that should be enough," Jessica Desfosses said in a plea for police officers to get vaccinated."

Because, covid never stops with infecting "just you".

https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/16/us/po...ths/index.html

Negative ghost rider. We'll pass! Thanks though.

vanguard8 · 12-02-2021, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Negative ghost rider. We'll pass! Thanks though.

Yes, the covid death numbers are over a month old, and so have increased by now.
Thanks for getting vaxxed! Is your dept getting its vaxxed #s up since the mandates?

Sedan_Clan · 12-02-2021, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by vanguard13

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Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Negative ghost rider. We'll pass! Thanks though.

Yes, the covid death numbers are over a month old, and so have increased by now.
Thanks for getting vaxxed! Is your dept getting its vaxxed #s up since the mandates?

I'm not vaccinated, there is no mandate and I don't feel like regurgitating that discussion. You can always go back and read the earlier discussion in this thread if you feel so inclined.

vanguard8 · 12-02-2021, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

I'm not vaccinated, there is no mandate and I don't feel like regurgitating that discussion. You can always go back and read the earlier discussion in this thread if you feel so inclined.

I was hoping you could show us some progress:

"What You Need To Know

-Eighty percent of LAPD employees vaccinated
-LAPD sent 2,300 notices to employees who did report their vaccination status
-Four LAPD employees have refused vaccines and testing options
-LA city employees have until Dec. 18 to get fully vaccinated"

"Moore spoke to host Alex Cohen about the widespread acceptance from his employees working under one of the strictest vaccine mandates in the nation.

"I'm proud of their acceptance," Moore said.

He said the risks of catching the virus are something the department knows all too well. When the chief spoke to "Inside the Issues," he said two of his employees were in the hospital with COVID-19.
Since the pandemic's start, more than 3,200 LAPD employees have been impacted by the virus and 11 have died.
"Since the vaccine has been available for our men and women they have leaned into it," Moore told Cohen.
However, there are some outliers.
"We do have those that are coming late to the party if you will," he said."

https://spectrumnews1.com/ca/la-west...e-model-agency

Better than the ~ 50% vaxxed when we discussed this earlier, but I guess I should thank your co-workers.

Sedan_Clan · 12-02-2021, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by vanguard13

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Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

I'm not vaccinated, there is no mandate and I don't feel like regurgitating that discussion. You can always go back and read the earlier discussion in this thread if you feel so inclined.

I was hoping you could show us some progress:

"What You Need To Know

-Eighty percent of LAPD employees vaccinated
-LAPD sent 2,300 notices to employees who did report their vaccination status
-Four LAPD employees have refused vaccines and testing options
-LA city employees have until Dec. 18 to get fully vaccinated"

"Moore spoke to host Alex Cohen about the widespread acceptance from his employees working under one of the strictest vaccine mandates in the nation.

"I'm proud of their acceptance," Moore said.

He said the risks of catching the virus are something the department knows all too well. When the chief spoke to "Inside the Issues," he said two of his employees were in the hospital with COVID-19.
Since the pandemic's start, more than 3,200 LAPD employees have been impacted by the virus and 11 have died.
"Since the vaccine has been available for our men and women they have leaned into it," Moore told Cohen.
However, there are some outliers.
"We do have those that are coming late to the party if you will," he said."

https://spectrumnews1.com/ca/la-west...e-model-agency

Better than the ~ 50% vaxxed when we discussed this earlier, but I guess I should thank your co-workers.

Thanks. I don't work for LAPD. Let's move on. What does everybody think about the Andrew Coffee case/verdict?

cmyx6go · 12-02-2021, 07:58 AM

What a disgrace! You minimize the fact that 58 LEO were killed doing their job?!?!

Is this guy littlebear?

Sedan_Clan · 12-02-2021, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by cmyx6go

What a disgrace! You minimize the fact that 58 LEO were killed doing their job?!?!

Is this guy littlebear?

We believe it is. Same M.O., same style of conversation, etc. He disappeared from this thread after getting bashed by everybody (…and even attempted to erase all traces of his existence on Bimmerpost), only to magically appear in my thread on E46Fanatics. I disregard his statements over there as well.

P.S. He posted in my thread on Fanatics around the same time he posted in this thread under his recently acquired pseudonym. There are no coincidences.

vreihen16 · 12-02-2021, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Updated numbers!

Sorry, I can't "like" that post!

Murf993 · 12-02-2021, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

We believe it is. Same M.O., same style of conversation, etc. He disappeared from this thread after getting bashed by everybody (…and even attempted to erase all traces of his existence on Bimmerpost), only to magically appear in my thread on E46Fanatics. I disregard his statements over there as well.

P.S. He posted in my thread on Fanatics around the same time he posted in this thread under his recently acquired pseudonym. There are no coincidences.

I was thinking the same thing.

NorCalAthlete · 12-02-2021, 01:00 PM

Always love that the number comparisons are only ever applied "in favor" of one side and anything reversed is discarded on other topics. At least be consistent in your convictions and adherence to "the science" / statistics.

F32Fleet · 12-02-2021, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

IMHO, most people are cowards who are scared to act when it's time to act…..

…whether that action is to defend someone who is being assaulted physically (…e.g…a flight attendant being assaulted by a passenger), defend somebody being assaulted verbally (…e.g. BLM crowds/members disrupting people just trying to eat dinner with their families) or defend a city that is being perpetrated against by people with bad intentions. Good on Rittenhouse to act to protect life and property. If we had more Americans who were willing to combat the nonsense, we wouldn't be in the perilous state we're in [as a country].

Most people don't have qualified immunity like you do.

Sedan_Clan · 12-02-2021, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by F32Fleet

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Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

IMHO, most people are cowards who are scared to act when it's time to act…..

…whether that action is to defend someone who is being assaulted physically (…e.g…a flight attendant being assaulted by a passenger), defend somebody being assaulted verbally (…e.g. BLM crowds/members disrupting people just trying to eat dinner with their families) or defend a city that is being perpetrated against by people with bad intentions. Good on Rittenhouse to act to protect life and property. If we had more Americans who were willing to combat the nonsense, we wouldn't be in the perilous state we're in [as a country].

Most people don't have qualified immunity like you do.

That is true, but coming to the defense of others is not going to get you into trouble with the law under all but the most extreme set of circumstances. It's one thing to see two grown men fighting, for example, and decide to stay out of it. It's another thing entirely to watch a woman be sexually assaulted or a flight attendant being assaulted and do absolutely nothing. At the very least, we should protect our women and children. That's just my perspective though.

I expect more from men I suppose. When these criminals use their girlfriends and wives as human shields it truly pisses me off. Friggin cowards!

F32Fleet · 12-02-2021, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

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Originally Posted by F32Fleet

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Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

IMHO, most people are cowards who are scared to act when it's time to act…..

…whether that action is to defend someone who is being assaulted physically (…e.g…a flight attendant being assaulted by a passenger), defend somebody being assaulted verbally (…e.g. BLM crowds/members disrupting people just trying to eat dinner with their families) or defend a city that is being perpetrated against by people with bad intentions. Good on Rittenhouse to act to protect life and property. If we had more Americans who were willing to combat the nonsense, we wouldn't be in the perilous state we're in [as a country].

Most people don't have qualified immunity like you do.

That is true, but coming to the defense of others is not going to get you into trouble with the law under all but the most extreme set of circumstances. It's one thing to see two grown men fighting, for example, and decide to stay out of it. It's another thing entirely to watch a woman be sexually assaulted or a flight attendant being assaulted and do absolutely nothing. At the very least, we should protect our women and children. That's just my perspective though.

Well ya but generally as a LEO you're affordeda greater degree of deterrence which protects you from nuisance civil suits. Especially for grey area encounters.

Sedan_Clan · 12-02-2021, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by F32Fleet

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Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

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Originally Posted by F32Fleet

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Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

IMHO, most people are cowards who are scared to act when it's time to act…..

…whether that action is to defend someone who is being assaulted physically (…e.g…a flight attendant being assaulted by a passenger), defend somebody being assaulted verbally (…e.g. BLM crowds/members disrupting people just trying to eat dinner with their families) or defend a city that is being perpetrated against by people with bad intentions. Good on Rittenhouse to act to protect life and property. If we had more Americans who were willing to combat the nonsense, we wouldn't be in the perilous state we're in [as a country].

Most people don't have qualified immunity like you do.

That is true, but coming to the defense of others is not going to get you into trouble with the law under all but the most extreme set of circumstances. It's one thing to see two grown men fighting, for example, and decide to stay out of it. It's another thing entirely to watch a woman be sexually assaulted or a flight attendant being assaulted and do absolutely nothing. At the very least, we should protect our women and children. That's just my perspective though.

Well ya but generally as a LEO you're affordeda greater degree of deterrence which protects you from nuisance civil suits. Especially for grey area encounters.

Unfortunately that isn't the case everywhere. Many states have done away with QI and California is trying to as well.

upstatedoc · 12-02-2021, 04:59 PM

How long do you think before a business owner in California defends his store with his AR against the "smash and grabbers"? What would be the consequences for a business owner if that were to happen?

UncleWede · 12-02-2021, 05:01 PM

So, how much is your department getting from ARPA for front line workers?

Our Council approved $175/mn for the period 3/20-3/21 for sworn. Non-sworn got $150. I tried to convince my boss that IT supports PD at least 50%/day and on call 24x7, we should get something more than the $100 for general staff. He laughed.

Donatello. · 12-02-2021, 08:29 PM

I had traffic court yesterday. 85 in a 65. This was on a local major highway so we know 85 is not exactly flying, but b/c speed limits haven't been revised, I was breaking the law on paper.

I saw him flying up reckless weaving through traffic to get me. I pulled over ad waited for him. No break.

I hire lawyer & I only get 2 points knocked off. WTH? I could have done that without a lawyer...

My question is, is only taking 2 pts off under these circumstances normal these days? Oh, it was last day of the month that I was pulled over as well...

F32Fleet · 12-02-2021, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

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Originally Posted by F32Fleet

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Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

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Originally Posted by F32Fleet

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Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

IMHO, most people are cowards who are scared to act when it's time to act…..

…whether that action is to defend someone who is being assaulted physically (…e.g…a flight attendant being assaulted by a passenger), defend somebody being assaulted verbally (…e.g. BLM crowds/members disrupting people just trying to eat dinner with their families) or defend a city that is being perpetrated against by people with bad intentions. Good on Rittenhouse to act to protect life and property. If we had more Americans who were willing to combat the nonsense, we wouldn't be in the perilous state we're in [as a country].

Most people don't have qualified immunity like you do.

That is true, but coming to the defense of others is not going to get you into trouble with the law under all but the most extreme set of circumstances. It's one thing to see two grown men fighting, for example, and decide to stay out of it. It's another thing entirely to watch a woman be sexually assaulted or a flight attendant being assaulted and do absolutely nothing. At the very least, we should protect our women and children. That's just my perspective though.

Well ya but generally as a LEO you're affordeda greater degree of deterrence which protects you from nuisance civil suits. Especially for grey area encounters.

Unfortunately that isn't the case everywhere. Many states have done away with QI and California is trying to as well.

I meant to say ""deference" but spell check. just a fyi

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