[UncleWede]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Divided road as in opposing directions of travel? You would need to stop.

So I don't have to yield to emergency lights, but I gotta let some snot-nosed kid wander off the bus with his face in a phone???

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by UncleWede

So I don't have to yield to emergency lights, but I gotta let some snot-nosed kid wander off the bus with his face in a phone???

22454 CVC requires that all traffic yield.

[vreihen16]

Originally Posted by UncleWede

So I don't have to yield to emergency lights, but I gotta let some snot-nosed kid wander off the bus with his face in a phone???

NY State VTL says that you must stop for a school bus flashing red lights even on a divided highway with a concrete barrier/fence/median between the opposing travel lanes.

As for the snot-nosed kids, our school busses stop at every single house and leave the lights flashing for five minutes waiting for each kid to stumble out of their house and out to the curb. Heaven forbid that they get hypothermia standing at the curb for a few minutes on a frigid 45 F morning!

This belongs more in the old farts thread, but my school bus stop back in the day was a five block walk from our house. If nobody was standing there to be picked up, the bus driver wouldn't even slow down as they passed! Then, there was the humiliation of having to walk five blocks home, and ask your parents to drive you to school because you were not responsible enough to make it to the bus stop on time...and then having all of the kids who were on the bus laughing at you getting out of mommy's car when you finally got to the school.....

[vreihen16]

Oh, and most of the school busses around here are equipped with cameras specifically to catch drivers passing them while flashing red so that tickets can be mailed.....

[UncleWede]

We're you standing in Newport overnight?

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by UncleWede

We're you standing in Newport overnight?

I was comfy on my couch playing "Horizon: Forbidden West" on PS5. That game is BEAUTIFUL BTW.

[Murf993]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Be mindful of how spray will affect you as well, especially considering you'll be spraying outside and be subjected to wind shifts. There's always blowback!

My experience with OC on passively resistant subjects is that it works great on Coppers.

[vreihen16]

https://news.yahoo.com/father-orders...122158960.html

...When officers arrived, the man did not cooperate and had to be removed from the vehicle, the police said.

However, as they were taking Mr Johnson into custody, an officer noticed “a firearm coming outside the vehicle”. The officer, who was able to deflect the weapon by swiping the gun to the side as it fired into a restaurant awning, yelled “kid” to his colleagues.

The child was sitting in the back seat with his three-year-old sibling and had been “encouraged” to fire the gun by their father, police said.

The officer sustained a minor injury to his arm.

Calling it a sad day for the community, Sheriff Rosie Rivera said: “To have an adult think it is OK to encourage a four-year-old to pull a firearm and shoot at police illustrates how out of hand the campaign against police has gotten.”

She added: “This is a child who thought it was okay to pull a firearm and shoot that firearm at police. I’ve never seen anything like this in my 28 years.”

[Fly320s]

Hey, Deputy! You guys get trained for this? [Graphic content]

Skip to 1:20 for the money shot.

Narrative: Asshole takes hostages in Amsterdam. One hostage is able to flee. Asshole chases him. Special police in BMW X6 runs over asshole.

Problem solved. Problem Staying solved.

[upstatedoc]

Green lasers ftw

[ezaircon4jc]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

22454 CVC requires that all traffic yield.

Ummm...

https://california.public.law/codes/..._section_22454

b. (1)The driver of a vehicle upon a divided highway or multiple-lane highway need not stop upon meeting or passing a school bus that is upon the other roadway.

2.For the purposes of this subdivision, a multiple-lane highway is any highway that has two or more lanes of travel in each direction.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by ezaircon4jc

Ummm...

https://california.public.law/codes/..._section_22454

You completely glossed over SUBSECTION (a) and went straight to (b)(1) where it talks about divided highways and multi-lane highways. Subsection (a) is where your school zones will be. Remember I asked a follow-up question to better understand what he was asking (…and what he meant by "divided"; the vehicle code's definition and a person's definition likely/usually differ). A divided roadway and a divided highway are two different things, and division usually refers to some sort of median or defined delineation. Most school zones have no delineation for opposing directions of travel and generally have no medians (…hence the reason for the vehicle code). If there's potential that a child could run into your path of travel, you need to stop. Thanks for playing though!

22454.
(a) The driver of any vehicle, upon meeting or overtaking, from either direction, any schoolbus equipped with signs as required in this code, that is stopped for the purpose of loading or unloading any schoolchildren and displays a flashing red light signal and stop signal arm, as defined in paragraph (4) of subdivision (b) of Section 25257, if equipped with a stop signal arm, visible from front or rear, shall bring the vehicle to a stop immediately before passing the schoolbus and shall not proceed past the schoolbus until the flashing red light signal and stop signal arm, if equipped with a stop signal arm, cease operation.

[ezaircon4jc]

I'm pretty sure we're in agreement. I may have misunderstood your initial response.

[UncleWede]

Did the rules change: I see SO many vehicles parked on the corner of residential streets.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by ezaircon4jc

I'm pretty sure we're in agreement. I may have misunderstood your initial response.

That makes two of us. It's all good.

Originally Posted by UncleWede

Did the rules change: I see SO many vehicles parked on the corner of residential streets.

The laws didn't change, but the rules definitely have. Parking enforcement and/or local LEO's just don't enforce it…….

….much in the same way the violation of parking too close to [or in front of a fire hydrant] isn't really enforced much.

[UncleWede]

And as long as I put my hazard lights on, I can park any-freaking-where I decide is convenient, right? Middle of the street, handicapped, fire hydrant, red lines of the no parking zone. . .

[ezaircon4jc]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

...

….much in the same way the violation of parking too close to [or in front of a fire hydrant] isn't really enforced much.

And parking on corners or in red zones around schools.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by UncleWede

And as long as I put my hazard lights on, I can park any-freaking-where I decide is convenient, right? Middle of the street, handicapped, fire hydrant, red lines of the no parking zone. . .

Haha! It sounds like somebody agitated the bull. Is this occurring in your neighborhood regularly?

[SaMaster14]

Originally Posted by UncleWede

And as long as I put my hazard lights on, I can park any-freaking-where I decide is convenient, right? Middle of the street, handicapped, fire hydrant, red lines of the no parking zone. . .

Pretty much every Uber driver seems to do this now. Recent example: across from a large supermarket by UCLA, at least 10 cars lined up in the median/turn lane with their flashers on, nobody in the car, blocking traffic, not a cop or parking enforcement in sight (yet, I'll get a parking ticket + no front plate ticket within 30 seconds after my meter expires (in both Los Angeles city and Beverly Hills city). Go figure…

[paquet]

I get it's LA / Cali, but that seems to be rather annoying.

I am still amazed by the number of vehicles (personal, driveshare etc) that line up along the airport roads with impunity. I get that there's a cost to going into a paid parking lot that hits the bottom line, but even where there are free parking lots, people seem to not want to use them.

Sedan_Clan: Can you explain that difference between subsections on where one has to legally stop for a school bus in the opposite direction please? I've read it a couple of times, but I can't seem to get the nuance - what makes one divided road different than another?

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by packet

I get it's LA / Cali, but that seems to be rather annoying.

I am still amazed by the number of vehicles (personal, driveshare etc) that line up along the airport roads with impunity. I get that there's a cost to going into a paid parking lot that hits the bottom line, but even where there are free parking lots, people seem to not want to use them.

Sedan_Clan: Can you explain that difference between subsections on where one has to legally stop for a school bus in the opposite direction please? I've read it a couple of times, but I can't seem to get the nuance - what makes one divided road different than another?

I'll try to explain with photos. Here are two different school zone areas: one where there is no/very little and/or inconsistent delineation and one with a raised concrete center median. That center median is a division.

[paquet]

Thank you.
If I'm deciphering it correctly, E. Temple Av (bottom pic) has the median?