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      12-16-2015, 10:07 AM   #45
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No super cars are hybrids. LaFerrari, 918 and P1 are hyper cars. They shouldn't even be in the same sentence as the NSX.

488, F12, Huracan, 650s, Avendator, Huayra, etc, aren't hybrids.

Personally, if I already had the cars I really wanted, I'd get the NSX for its looks, I think it looks amazing in person.
I guess you can call them whatever you want but if your car has both a gas and electric power train by definition it has a hybrid system.

http://www.edmunds.com/fuel-economy/...rids-work.html

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A vehicle is a hybrid if it utilizes more than one form of onboard energy to achieve propulsion. In practice, that means a hybrid will have a traditional internal-combustion engine and a fuel tank, as well as one or more electric motors and a battery pack.
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Honda needs to fire all the designers that ruined look since the 2009 Acura TL. I had a 2008 TL, it was actually good looking. All the new Hondas/Acuras are hideous, including the NSX. $150k car with plastic interior, really?

Lexus needs to fire their designers as well, the RC-F is the ugliest thing I've seen on the road. And have you seen the new Nissan Maxima? Gross. Subbies have always been ugly, so it's a given that's it's been getting uglier. What is wrong with these Jap designers... I loved Jap cars, pre-2009.


Only Mazda is doing something right with the new Miata. Now they just have to bring turbo charged rotary back.
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No super cars are hybrids. LaFerrari, 918 and P1 are hyper cars. They shouldn't even be in the same sentence as the NSX.

488, F12, Huracan, 650s, Avendator, Huayra, etc, aren't hybrids.

Personally, if I already had the cars I really wanted, I'd get the NSX for its looks, I think it looks amazing in person.
I guess you can call them whatever you want but if your car has both a gas and electric power train by definition it has a hybrid system.

http://www.edmunds.com/fuel-economy/...rids-work.html

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A vehicle is a hybrid if it utilizes more than one form of onboard energy to achieve propulsion. In practice, that means a hybrid will have a traditional internal-combustion engine and a fuel tank, as well as one or more electric motors and a battery pack.
Where did I argue what a "hybrid" car is?

Please list the supercars that fall into this category.
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I think part of the problem was that the new NSX was designed by Americans in America. The original NSX was all Japanese and really represented a Japanese take on the supercar.

Original NSX = Toro sushi
New NSX = Volcano baked hurricane hot and spicy special John Elway cut roll
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I think part of the problem was that the new NSX was designed by Americans in America. The original NSX was all Japanese and really represented a Japanese take on the supercar.

Original NSX = Toro sushi
New NSX = Volcano baked hurricane hot and spicy special John Elway cut roll
[img]http://www.magpictures.com/jirodream...s/photo_02.jpg[/img]

vs:

[img]http://foodnetwork.sndimg.com/conten...dives_s3x4.jpg[/img]
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I think part of the problem was that the new NSX was designed by Americans in America. The original NSX was all Japanese and really represented a Japanese take on the supercar.

Original NSX = Toro sushi
New NSX = Volcano baked hurricane hot and spicy special John Elway cut roll
This is really an incredible shift. The original NSX was the pride and joy of Honda Japan. The new one seems forced by USDM so its really for all intents and purposes an American car. Japan had almost nothing to do with it. It also will be sold as a Honda NSX worldwide since there is no Acura dealer network.
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I think part of the problem was that the new NSX was designed by Americans in America. The original NSX was all Japanese and really represented a Japanese take on the supercar.

Original NSX = Toro sushi
New NSX = Volcano baked hurricane hot and spicy special John Elway cut roll
This is really an incredible shift. The original NSX was the pride and joy of Honda Japan. The new one seems forced by USDM so its really for all intents and purposes an American car. Japan had almost nothing to do with it. It also will be sold as a Honda NSX worldwide since there is no Acura dealer network.
Technically Acura exists in China, Hong Kong, Russia and the US, but they put the kibosh on Japan and Western Europe.
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I think part of the problem was that the new NSX was designed by Americans in America. The original NSX was all Japanese and really represented a Japanese take on the supercar.

Original NSX = Toro sushi
New NSX = Volcano baked hurricane hot and spicy special John Elway cut roll
Wasn't the original NSX designed by Pininfarina and chassis developed with Aryton Senna?

But yes, it was the pride and joy of Japan.
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No super cars are hybrids. LaFerrari, 918 and P1 are hyper cars. They shouldn't even be in the same sentence as the NSX.

488, F12, Huracan, 650s, Avendator, Huayra, etc, aren't hybrids.

Personally, if I already had the cars I really wanted, I'd get the NSX for its looks, I think it looks amazing in person.
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Where did I argue what a "hybrid" car is?

Please list the supercars that fall into this category.
What's the difference in a super car and a hyper car? To me it's like models and super models with the line a never ending debate.

So if you already had the cars you wanted then you would get the NSX. Not sure what this means either.
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No super cars are hybrids. LaFerrari, 918 and P1 are hyper cars. They shouldn't even be in the same sentence as the NSX.

488, F12, Huracan, 650s, Avendator, Huayra, etc, aren't hybrids.

Personally, if I already had the cars I really wanted, I'd get the NSX for its looks, I think it looks amazing in person.
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Where did I argue what a "hybrid" car is?

Please list the supercars that fall into this category.
What's the difference in a super car and a hyper car? To me it's like models and super models with the line a never ending debate.

So if you already had the cars you wanted then you would get the NSX. Not sure what this means either.
There is no debate lol The difference is cars like the Agera, Bugatti SS, LaFerrari, P1, 918, Regera are not in the same class as cars like the 488, Huracan, 650s, etc. and Acura wasn't targeting Hypercars. The original went after the Ferrari 348, this was meant to go after the Italia. Besides the fact that the Italia is 2 inches longer, all other dimensions are within a inch of the 458.

Models and super models also aren't the same. Some 18 year old in a Walmart ad is a model.. He/she isn't making millions a year walking high fashion runways. That's not even a debate lol it's just how it is. Your failure to see the difference doesn't mean it's not there.

And the last part of my post means the NSX wouldn't be the first "supercar" I buy. If I already had Ferraris, Porsches etc (cars I really want) I wouldn't mind adding the NSX because of its looks.
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So they didn't do it because everyone else had hybrid supercars.
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Models and super models also aren't the same. Some 18 year old in a Walmart ad is a model.. He/she isn't making millions a year walking high fashion runways. That's not even a debate lol it's just how it is. Your failure to see the difference doesn't mean it's not there.
That's what we're missing... hypermodels. Why is the world simply content with supermodels?
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Models and super models also aren't the same. Some 18 year old in a Walmart ad is a model.. He/she isn't making millions a year walking high fashion runways. That's not even a debate lol it's just how it is. Your failure to see the difference doesn't mean it's not there.
That's what we're missing... hypermodels. Why is the world simply content with supermodels?
You should take that up with the Supreme Court, I'm sure they'll move you straight up the ladder, with that argument.
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That's what we're missing... hypermodels. Why is the world simply content with supermodels?
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Well Chris Harris liked the NSX if that means anything....awarding the NSX 4.5 stars out of a possible 5.


“Traction is predictably impressive, but the mind games really begin when you switch all the clever traction control off and see what happens when you provoke the NSX… The search uncovers only good things. You can play with this car – allow the front to push, use that mid-engined layout to alter the line and rotate the rear. It’s not as easily playful as a 488 or an R8 because those pesky front motors always ultimately want to drag the car straight again. But it is way more fun than I’d imagined it would be and, most importantly, it demonstrates the depth of chassis development that has been undertaken to make this car worthy of the NSX badge.” – Chris Harris, evo Magazine


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$150k it's a steal, but not a single car will be sold at that price. How big a market adjustment will be added. 1st ZR-1 was $59,995 and sold for $120k. So is it worth $300k.....
Nope.
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Not feeling this car. Hard pass.
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Still not bad looking car, the journalist in the video seemed well biased right from the get go. Didn't the crowd complain about the previous NSX back then and look at its following now. As the auto world is moving towards fuel efficiency, this car might be on the right track going hybrid.
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Great looking car but clearly a committee job.

As several posters mentioned earlier, the potential for greatness was here but there were too many cooks in the kitchen. It appears that everyone was listened to and a consensus was reached leading to an average result.

Pass.

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An Audi R8 V10 PLUS would be a better buy imho
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Each time I watch these NSX videos make me want to buy the old NSX
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Wow.... The Brake Pedals are really there just for show... It's all "software" controlled with the computer providing the pedal pushback for sensation. That's pretty mind-bottling (see what I did there).

Well... The car is IMO, like it's neighboring brother, the mighty Godzilla aka GT-R, a "technical marvel". Only the GT-R manages to undercut this NSX severely in price! Albeit, the GT-R is not a 'hybrid' and it's kinda not attractive... at all. The NSX is low slung and 'exotic-looking'. Except for that hideous front-end! All in all... $200k??? Can't do it. I'm going R8 and even 911 Turbo S all day long.
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