Innocent until proven guilty? How true is it?

aznshrek88 · 04-21-2008, 07:35 PM

I have a quick lawyer question....so if he wins this case and the court rules in his favor, is he left with the bill or can he counter sue so that she has to pay his lawyer fee?

It's kind of ridiculous that people do this without proof, knowing that all their causing you is a headache, but then are you still stuck with the bill in the end?

SfValley335i · 04-21-2008, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by aznshrek88

I have a quick lawyer question....so if he wins this case and the court rules in his favor, is he left with the bill or can he counter sue so that she has to pay his lawyer fee?

It's kind of ridiculous that people do this without proof, knowing that all their causing you is a headache, but then are you still stuck with the bill in the end?

From what I understand is I would have to sue her in civil court... which would take forever to recover $30k from a 22 year old girl.
But I will take it all the way.

325 Baller · 04-21-2008, 07:41 PM

not only would it take forever.but more likely then not she wouldnt be able to afford to pay you that money thus she would either liquidate her current assets or declare bankruptcy which also means add about 10 years onto that and youll get pennies on the dollar.

aznshrek88 · 04-22-2008, 12:03 AM

I don't know if this is right, but if all the facts are true, then why not keep her in court for the longest time possible? If she's after moeny then bury her in legal fees...reappeal the case, counter sue her under defamation, etc. until you run her into the ground with debt...

SfValley335i · 04-22-2008, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by aznshrek88

I don't know if this is right, but if all the facts are true, then why not keep her in court for the longest time possible? If she's after moeny then bury her in legal fees...reappeal the case, counter sue her under defamation, etc. until you run her into the ground with debt...

She has the city on her side... I'm the one paying out of pocket for an attorney.

wuufer001 · 04-22-2008, 12:44 AM

sorry to hear this man,
damn that bitch sounds such a cunt

ska///235i · 04-22-2008, 12:54 AM

rape = jail
jail = pickin up soap

jokes aside...good luck in your case

Jay_328 · 04-22-2008, 01:08 AM

I don't know what's going on, what to think or what to post except I'm glad it's not me going through this drama.

G-Mach1 · 04-23-2008, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SfValley335i

She has the city on her side... I'm the one paying out of pocket for an attorney.

It is pretty funny, he is answering the posts however he is not answering when people ask about evidence and things like that.
I am sure this is not clean cut as what he is saying. If the DA is going through all this they must be having some thing good.
I am sorry if you commit a crime you have to pay the price.

Couch · 04-23-2008, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by G-Mach1

It is pretty funny, he is answering the posts however he is not answering when people ask about evidence and things like that.
I am sure this is not clean cut as what he is saying. If the DA is going through all this they must be having some thing good.
I am sorry if you commit a crime you have to pay the price.

In all fairness, if his attorney is really that good, he would be advised not to disclose things like that. However, he would have also told him to refrain from saying anything about the case period in a public setting.

I don't see how an entire city can be on her side, as it doesn't sound like a public case to me.

Tommy420 · 04-23-2008, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch

In all fairness, if his attorney is really that good, he would be advised not to disclose things like that. However, he would have also told him to refrain from saying anything about the case period in a public setting.

I don't see how an entire city can be on her side, as it doesn't sound like a public case to me.

+1 It's probably not a smart idea to write about this case in this thread until it's be concluded.

325 Baller · 04-23-2008, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch

I don't see how an entire city can be on her side, as it doesn't sound like a public case to me.

Its a criminal offense, thus the district attorney (DA) is the lawyer for her side, but there isnt a her side its the city/state who is prosecuting him.

Couch · 04-23-2008, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 325 Baller

Its a criminal offense, thus the district attorney (DA) is the lawyer for her side, but there isnt a her side its the city/state who is prosecuting him.

Got ya. I wasn't thinking of the DA, I was thinking of the actual city.

325 Baller · 04-23-2008, 05:14 PM

o haha..no worries..good luck Sfvalley

samwoo2go · 04-23-2008, 06:09 PM

ready for you new home?

samwoo2go · 04-23-2008, 06:11 PM

and your new favorite pass time?

BMWalltheway · 04-25-2008, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Hawkeye

Civil court is guilty until proven innocent. Criminal court is the other. You can not be proven guilty and still have to pay fines/do community service. Sucks.

There are some girls here who do that crap for attention as well, it is always nice when it gets shown for what it is. Good luck.

+1

That's probably why we have to fight traffic tickets to prove we are innocent in court.

Having said that, since the OPs case is in criminal court, it has to be proven beyond DOUBT that he's guilty to receive any punishment. Its ok to let a 1000 criminals walk, but its not ok to let even 1 innocent suffer punishment. That's what this great country stands for... mark of freedom.

325 Baller · 05-10-2008, 01:09 AM

any update?

vgame64 · 01-10-2009, 05:03 PM

Updates?

samwoo2go · 01-10-2009, 05:40 PM

hes a goner... the bitch prevailed, as always in bullshit cases like this.

PLAYON · 01-10-2009, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by samwoo2go

hes a goner... the bitch prevailed, as always in bullshit cases like this.

for real?

samwoo2go · 01-10-2009, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by PLAYON

for real?

lol no, he made a post yesterday

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