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I don't like even the idea of guns and kids in the same building, when i was a kid i regularly ran away to go fishing on my own. My parents weren't bad parents per say, but kids are too slippery if they so wish.
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Always the laws? No. Darwin. It doesn't matter how many laws you have, the stupid, the criminal, and the irresponsible will break laws.
It's against the law (a common sense) to have a loaded gun at the daycare. People break laws.
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So what do we suggest as ramification? Throw the husband in jail since it was his firearm since the wife had no knowledge of it? Throw both of them in jail? How can we curb this from happening in the future, while holding those responsible accountable?
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True, but then 2mm more people would be robbed, raped and murdered instead. And I'm speaking frim personal experience thwarting 2 crimes with my firearm myself. Would have stopped at least 6 more but probably dozens when my wife wouldn't let me confront burglars breaking in my neighbors home and said call the cops instead. I Would have had them on the ground waiting for cops to arrive. Instead, they burglarized 6 more homes in my neighborhood and who knows how many more as they were never caught and cops took 55 minutes to arrive.
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Who's name is on the ownership is irrelevant.
Ignorance and stupid isn't a defence. Woman goes to jail because her negligence caused 2 counts of death, but I'm not against sending them both. I don't think society benefits from people that are so ignorant and self absorbed that others die from their actions. |
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They have every time asked me how I like it, admire it, and 3 out of 4 have voluntarily said to me I wish everyone carried, it would stop a lot of crime and make their jobs easier. This is law enforcement saying this. The ones who know. |
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Want to stop many gun deaths, pass some common sense laws. If you're a felon with a gun, automatic 10 yrs. If youre a repeat gun crime offender with a gun, 20 yrs. If you're determined mentally unstable, no guns allowed until you can prove you aren't in court. Any household with the above residing in them, no guns allowed by even other legal residents. This would curb gun violence dramatically. 90% of gun crime is committed by repeat gun crime felons but liberal laws and judges let them off with light or no sentences to commit these crimes again. Take out terrorism and mass shootings are almost always committed by mentally unstable people with or with access to guns. Liberals have been preventing laws to report these individuals from getting guns. Legal carry permit holders are the lowest measurable group of people for gun crime, less than 0.1% of gun crime, lower even than police, yet nobody has a problem with police carrying guns. Liberals strive to take guns away from these people.
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And yet, drunk driving is illegal... so how can there possibly be drunk driving?
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Banning guns does nothing to stop the murder rate. Having guns doesnt reduce or amplify it. Having guns however does reduce crime and give the weak and defenseless a chance against the strong. It's as simple as that.
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People are stupid and break laws. The only thing banning guns would do at this point is increase crime as only the law abiding citizens would comply. Easier to rape, rob and murder when you know you won't meet any opposition. If you don't live in the US... news flash... we don't give a shit what you think we should do.
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I agree.
We tend to want to peel back American culture to something that it isn't. There are many facets to society and just a blanket ideological change to what works in Canada or England is just ridiculous. Start with ownership and responsibility. Words we don't hear too much in today's Liberal society. We need to weed out the idiots that hide under the blanket that responsible gun owners provide and make them criminally responsible. |
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Who keeps loaded guns where toddlers can access them?
Idiots do. Make these idiots responsible for their actions. Stupidity should be a crime.
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Again, the society is different, so it doesn't even register as an issue. We have enough other crap to worry about! |
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I admit that there's SO MANY guns in the US you likely need one but the entire premise in and of itself is absolutely stupid. |
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