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      06-16-2013, 10:01 PM   #45
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"Much better" -- in your dreams!

Custom color any color combo, that will cost you tons more. Any color combo (not custom) of available colors (a few interior and a handful of extrior) -- sure. If that justifies extra $10k, you're a lucky guy. What "custom color combo" did you order?

RWD in Northeast??? What is the point of that? A boat with RWD in snow is useless boat. BTW, lexus.com shows both options available RWD and AWD for 2013 GS.

Just glancing over "Build your Lexus" all of those lux options are available on 2013 GS, so I am not sure where you got your facts...

Not sure about the tranny...
My friend learn how to read!

I wrote I can CUSTOM ORDER any color combo with BMW not CUSTOM COLOR.

With Lexus u cant custom order crap!

Go to clublexus.com and read about unavailable options such as POWER trunk and folding mirrors.

The transmission is 6speed Auto.

The engine has a ticking noise at idle like a Diesel.

The Lexus website doesnt include that Lexus allocations are regional. And each region predetermines which options the cars have.

Oh u want Mark Levinson stereo, how about HUD? Good luck with getting these features.

The F-Sport Package includes Larger Brakes, upgraded Sport Suspension, and Staggered Tires only on RWD cars.
Same as the BMW Msport RWD cars.
All these features are important to me.

Go to a Lexus Dealer in the Northeast and ask them for a RWD car.......
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Does your 535i also have a warp drive? Post more pics about your 535i. I wanna hear more about your 535i. Your 535i is faster than an M5, right? You paid more for your 535i because it also looks better than the M5, correct?

http://carsort.com/compare/BMW-5-Series-vs-Lexus-IS

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There's no need to hate on Lexus, buddy. I don't own one, but they're quality cars.
As a former GS owner for over 7 years, I know Lexus is good and I personally like the new GS a lot. Im more frustrated with the stupid decisions of limiting ordering options and regional allocations.

My hope for the GS is an updated powertrain with 8sp Auto and either Turbo or S/C engine. The Fsport interior style and suspension tuning are perfect.
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I agree that the packaging by region is silly. Then again, Lexus knows their customers and the packages probably fit 95% of Lexus buyers well. I don't personally care about 8 gears (would rather have a 6MT of course) and I'm sure a GS-F is on the way which will offer a vastly upgraded powertrain, though the F-Sport is perfectly adequate for me and my wife. I wouldn't go for anything beyond a 535i if I was shopping the 5-series either (would probably go for 528i M-Sport in reality as the turbo four is very good)...
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Biggest disappointing is no new engine in any of Lexus' refresh. Otherwise the GS is handsomely designed. I didn't like it initially but slowly grew on me. What I really want is a 2 seater sports car next and Lexus offers none so I'd have to switch brand again
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Well the LFA is one of the best two-seater sports cars made but the price is a bit on the high side! As far as the GS powertrain goes I am more than happy with it. The 2GR-FSE remains a fantastic engine (loved it in out IS 350 we traded in) and the 6 speed tranny is vastly better than the one in our old IS. It shifts very quickly in manual mode with throttle blips on downshifts and is properly transparent in operation in auto mode. 8 gears would be an improvement but 6 is still plenty IMO...
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Biggest disappointing is no new engine in any of Lexus' refresh. Otherwise the GS is handsomely designed. I didn't like it initially but slowly grew on me. What I really want is a 2 seater sports car next and Lexus offers none so I'd have to switch brand again
Agreed. The engine is a huge disappointment. But I remember when the first previous generation GS came out, it came out with a GS300 first. Then they added the IS350 engine into the GS350 the next year.

My guess is they will use the IS350 engine in this year GS350 and use the 4th generation IS engine the next year GS.
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2. The engine note on basic CTS-V coupe is muted and should be far more aggressive.......hell with all the luxury car buyers who want to turn performance cars into quiet library like toasters called Lexus.
That's what the aftermarket is for. This is true for 99% of new cars out there.

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Well the LFA is one of the best two-seater sports cars made but the price is a bit on the high side! As far as the GS powertrain goes I am more than happy with it. The 2GR-FSE remains a fantastic engine (loved it in out IS 350 we traded in) and the 6 speed tranny is vastly better than the one in our old IS. It shifts very quickly in manual mode with throttle blips on downshifts and is properly transparent in operation in auto mode. 8 gears would be an improvement but 6 is still plenty IMO...
LFA, one of the best 2 seater sports cars made? HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAH AHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA HAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHH AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA HHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAH AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA HHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA HHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAH AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA HAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHH AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH AHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
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LFA, one of the best 2 seater sports cars made? HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAH AHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA HAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHH AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA HHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAH AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA HHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA HHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAH AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA HAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHH AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH AHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
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Buy a Hybrid?...............why?.......new Corvette will have cylinder deactivation (Eco-mode)......and it is not a Hybrid but a proper sports car.


As for aftermarket true, but who wants to buy a hyper performance car with honking V8 that is mute. First, buy a nice performance car then spend more money on making it louder. That just sucks in my opinion.

Put a sports plus mode so that when you press it the exhaust note becomes more aggressive. Porsche as well as some other manufactures are using that technique to satisfy both parties.

However, I say hell with it give the engine proper sound track all the time. If buyer wants to buy a monster supercharged V8 making 556hp and not want to listen to it sing. Then they should be forced to buy a Hybrid and drive it for rest of their life





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new Corvette will have cylinder deactivation (Eco-mode)......and it is not a Hybrid but a proper sports car.
Are you saying a car is not a proper sports car in 2013 without the ECO mode bs? If so, I will 100% disagree. That should be left OFF sports cars. I owned a C6 Vette & that removing that garbage would have been the 1st thing I did if it had it.


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As for aftermarket true, but who wants to buy a hyper performance car with honking V8 that is mute. First, buy a nice performance car then spend more money on making it louder. That just sucks in my opinion.
You forget that we are in the MINORITY of the car buying public. The MAJORITY doesn't care to mod like we do.

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C6 Vette had it & so will C7. It is called NPP.

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No, not at all......I am not saying a car is not a proper sports car in 2013 without an ECO mode.

However, I think Chevy did an awesome job to offer Cylinder deactivation with an ECO-Mode button. This way when you are just cruising at 70 mph on freeway or during rush hour stuck in traffic you do not burn more gas.

In my opinion this makes a Corvette stingray even more desirable as a daily driver even in a city like Houston full of traffic jams and a great long distance cruiser. Now you do not need two cars in the garage. Because I dislike garage queens.


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Are you saying a car is not a proper sports car in 2013 without the ECO mode bs? If so, I will 100% disagree. That should be left OFF sports cars. I owned a C6 Vette & that removing that garbage would have been the 1st thing I did if it had it.


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No, not at all......I am not saying a car is not a proper sports car in 2013 without an ECO mode.

However, I think Chevy did an awesome job to offer Cylinder deactivation with an ECO-Mode button. This way when you are just cruising at 70 mph on freeway or during rush hour stuck in traffic you do not burn more gas.

In my opinion this makes a Corvette stingray even more desirable as a daily driver even in a city like Houston full of traffic jams and a great long distance cruiser. Now you do not need two cars in the garage. Because I dislike garage queens.
I would just like to point out that we share the same last name. Good day.
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[QUOTE=LSPowered;14192878]Are you saying a car is not a proper sports car in 2013 without the ECO mode bs? If so, I will 100% disagree. That should be left OFF sports cars. I owned a C6 Vette & that removing that garbage would have been the 1st thing I did if it had it.


You forget that we are in the MINORITY of the car buying public. The MAJORITY doesn't care to mod like we do.

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No, that's a logical fallacy.
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No, not at all......I am not saying a car is not a proper sports car in 2013 without an ECO mode.

However, I think Chevy did an awesome job to offer Cylinder deactivation with an ECO-Mode button. This way when you are just cruising at 70 mph on freeway or during rush hour stuck in traffic you do not burn more gas.

In my opinion this makes a Corvette stingray even more desirable as a daily driver even in a city like Houston full of traffic jams and a great long distance cruiser. Now you do not need two cars in the garage. Because I dislike garage queens.
You clearly don't know what MPG the Vettes got for before this. They got very good MPG before this eco mode crap. You don't NEED two cars anyway. Cost of 2 cars cancels out any gas savings.
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Are you saying a car is not a proper sports car in 2013 without the ECO mode bs? If so, I will 100% disagree. That should be left OFF sports cars. I owned a C6 Vette & that removing that garbage would have been the 1st thing I did if it had it.


You forget that we are in the MINORITY of the car buying public. The MAJORITY doesn't care to mod like we do.



No, that's a logical fallacy.
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No, I know that last generation Corvette got decent gas mileage for a V8 powered sports car. However, the new stingray Corvette will one up that with its Eco-mode cylinder deactivation. Thus, making it more practical for daily driving compared to the last generation.

I also agree in some instances that the cost of having 2 cars might cancel out any gas savings. Thus, I said I hate garage queens come on now




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Let me repeat what was mentioned in this thread. LFA is one of the best 2 seater sports cars made. A friend in Asia of mine owns one, and I have to say it is perfection. For those who have never seen it in real life or sat/driven in one will always be clueless of what a masterpiece it is.
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