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There are plenty of great vegan recipes online, I posted one for black bean burgers earlier in this thread that is really delicious!
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02-10-2014, 09:01 PM | #640 |
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made some turkey meatball and brown rice stuffed bell peppers!
they were SO bomb i highly recommend these! ![]()
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you gotta get more creative with what you make! take something simple that you enjoy a lot and make a healthy version of it. That way you wont get bored or tired of healthy food. It'll also stop cravings for the unhealthy stuff
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Apart from the lack of rice it doesn't look bad. Actually had something similar tonight, cod with a bit of panko, cooked in the pan with a side of rice and some broccoli. Didn't take a pic though.
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lower consumption of animal products does not equate to lower cases of heart disease and cancer. according to the WHO, deaths from coronary heart disease are really low in japan and france, and both of those countries eat lots of animal products. seafood is a japanese staple, and france even consumes more saturated fat (presumably from cheese and butter) per person than the US. cancer is a bit harder to make definitive conclusions becuase its incidence greatly increases with age. in places like laos where the life expectancy is lower, one of the reasons why cancer rates are lower might be because people are more likely to die from another cause. another variable is also how the animals were raised. in the us, cows are fed corn which is not what cows normally eat. this makes the cows fatter and messes with their stomach acidity. grass fed and pastured cows are leaner with a higher ratio of omega 3s. argentina consumes more beef per person than the US and experiences less deaths from heart disease. part of the reason might be that grass fed beef is more popular there. if you're worried about insulin response, then eating animal products like meat, eggs, and fish are good choices. insulin is released in response to blood glucose levels, so minimizing foods high in carbs will result in lower serum levels of insulin. in terms of igf-1, its more complicated. milk and soybeans have been shown to increase levels of igf-1, but it's still debatable at this point. eating large quantities of vegetables also isn't a foolproof solution. i mean you can get hypothyroidism from eating too much kale. im not trying to say vegetables are bad and meat is 100% healthy, but food isn't a simple subject, and the science revolving around nutrition is incomplete. i think the best advice comes from michael pollan. eat food. NOT TOO MUCH. mostly plants. Last edited by i dunno; 02-11-2014 at 12:06 AM.. |
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oh i just googled forks over knives and this popped up. its incredibly long but i quickly skimmed it and it seems to back itself with references. i havent seen the documentary so i cant really comment but maybe you'd be interested
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The China–Cornell–Oxford Project study, Adventist Health Studies,( As well as countless others) have strongly demonstrated the opposite to be true.... (Also in respect to the graph below, the drastically lower cancer rates also apply uniformly to childhood cancers, which suggests that the disparity between cancer rates, cannot simply be explained away by premature deaths due to other factors. One constant remains true, the countries who's populations consume the largest percentage of their calories from plant based foods, and not animal products, have the lowest incidence of heart disease and cancer.) Quote:
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That critique seems to be very skewed to me. However, I didn't base my conclusions solely on that documentary , this is a subject that I have taken a lot of personal interest in, and I have read quite a lot about it. The numbers simply do not lie, and statistically out of all of the segments of the US population groups ever studied, the Seventh Day Adventists have the highest average lifespans, (and lower cancer rates than the rest of the US population) and they are vegetarians (*granted that they are less likely to smoke)... Don't get me wrong though, eating vegetarian does not always equate to eating healthy, there are plenty of junk food vegetarians who are worse off than healthy ''meat eaters''. However, I do believe that a vegan diet composed of unrefined plant based foods, is superior to a diet that includes animal products. Personally, I am still eating animal products at this time, but I try to incorporate vegan meals (consisting of unrefined plant based foods) frequently, and I have greatly reduced my consumption of animal products... Last edited by kingofthedemo; 02-11-2014 at 02:25 AM.. |
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Those look really good! That's a good recipe idea. I love roasted bell peppers!
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That's the beauty of a unrefined plant based diet, the majority of unrefined plant based foods (excluding potatoes, nuts, and a few fruits)are not dense in calories, so you can eat very large quantities of them and still maintain a low caloric intake! Quote:
I don't think it's an oversimplification at all. An unrefined plant based diet is superior because plant based foods have a far superior density of nutrients per calorie, than animal products! Animal products typically only have a few macronutrients in them, like protein, fat, and carbohydrate, and they are extremely dense in calories. In contrast, plant based foods contain hundreds to thousands of different types of micronutrients and phytochemicals that have been proven to reduce the risk of cancer and heart disease. Additionally, unrefined plant based foods,are far less dense in calories than animal products! Which means that they are much less likely, than animal products, to contribute to the current obesity epidemic. Did you know that one hundred calories of Broccoli not only contains various micronutrients and phytochemicals, it even has more protein than one hundred calorie serving of steak!
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I feel bad for not posting any pics of food so heres an egg tart I had recently ![]() Last edited by i dunno; 02-11-2014 at 03:39 PM.. |
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You are missing the point: (A) There are many benefits from ingesting phytochemicals, these plant chemicals have been shown to reduce the risk of many different types of cancers in various studies. And there are thousands of different types of phytochemicals which are found in various different types of plants, therefore, eating as many different types of plants per day, should provide the best protection against various diseases. (IE: ''eating a shit ton'' of variety, of plants based foods daily, is the goal) (Watch the video below, for references etc) (B) If you are eating a healthy unrefined plant based diet (Not just nuts, and potatoes) you have to eat large quantities of plant based foods daily, simply to consume enough calories to meet your BMR, because most of these these foods (greens, mushrooms, onions, etc) are extremely low in calories. Hypothyroidism is not a concern if you are cooking your vegetables, and it's not a concern for raw vegetables unless you are juicing them in bulk daily. Quote:
In this country and in China the people who live/lived the longest are/were vegetarians! You should read the Adventist Health Studies! And the China–Cornell–Oxford Project study. Quote:
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The point that I was trying to make is that there is more protein in a 100 calorie serving of broccoli, than there is in a 100 calorie serving of steak (Beef Short Loin, or Porterhouse specifically) see the link I posted below. Link: https://www.drfuhrman.com/faq/questi...id=16&qindex=9 You should watch this video! [u2b][u2b][/u2b][/u2b]
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it was delicious, the family had meatball subs but i decided to ditch the carbs and cheese for the bell pepper
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I'm embarrassed to say I ate all that food by myself
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i wasnt talking about the us and china. you cant automatically assume that plant based diets are absolutely the most healthy based on results in two countries. you have to look at the big picture. the areas with the longest life expectancies with low incidence of cancer and heart disease are places like japan and hong kong. how do you explain their health if most of their population isn't strictly vegetarian? Last edited by i dunno; 02-11-2014 at 08:55 PM.. |
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