[i dunno]

Originally Posted by NemesisX

I'm embarrassed to say I ate all that food by myself

Although, in my defense that was my only meal of the day. I'm pretty sure I consumed like 4000+ calories in one sitting. This is a perfect example of what not to do if you're on a diet.

yolo

[Litos]

once my stupid image shack account gets "fixed", I will post more pics.

these idiots are charging $20 a year to upload unlimited pictures - i'll take it.

but yesterday I activated my account and it let me post one pic. today I wake and go to work and I still says I need to upgrade.

I get home, same shit....

got a guy working on it now...

#firstworldproblems

[NemesisX]

Originally Posted by Litos

once my stupid image shack account gets "fixed", I will post more pics.

these idiots are charging $20 a year to upload unlimited pictures - i'll take it.

but yesterday I activated my account and it let me post one pic. today I wake and go to work and I still says I need to upgrade.

I get home, same shit....

got a guy working on it now...

#firstworldproblems

Oh yeah dude I just checked imageshack and apparently I can't upload images for free anymore unless I upgrade @ $2/month.

Screw that, tbh

I just googled "free image upload" and chose the first one (postimage).

I will say the new imageshack interface is pretty nice so I can see why some people might be willing to pay for it.

[i dunno]

chopped brisket and some ribs. prob not as good as the stuff you guys have in texas.

[kingofthedemo]

Originally Posted by i dunno

studies do show that eating vegetables rich in nutrients are healthy for you, but that doesn't mean that you should try to stuff yourself as much as you can. like water, you can consume too much, and you can overconsume micronutrients. studies aren't clear, but there are suggestions that daily high doses of beta carotene can increase the chance of cancer.

Sorry bud but you are just mistaken, but based on your post above I can see why you are getting so defensive ''Stuff your face'' with them? I wouldn't call eating a large variety of plant based foods daily, stuffing your face, as long as you aren't exceeding your daily BMR in calories. Beta carotene consumption has not been shown to be a problem when it is consumed from a whole food source, only beta carotene supplement pills have been shown to be problematic. The over consumption of micronutrients is not a cause for concern when eating a healthy whole foods diet. Popping supplements is a different story. Also the beta carotene study was flawed: http://www.nutraingredients.com/Rese...flawed-Experts

[Litos]

Originally Posted by NemesisX

Oh yeah dude I just checked imageshack and apparently I can't upload images for free anymore unless I upgrade @ $2/month.

Screw that, tbh

I just googled "free image upload" and chose the first one (postimage).

I will say the new imageshack interface is pretty nice so I can see why some people might be willing to pay for it.

yeah, for $20/mth is not gonna kill me.....

plus, I have 1130 pics on it already HAHA !!!!

they just need to stop being retarded and fix the account that I paid or

[i dunno]

Originally Posted by kingofthedemo

Sorry bud but you are just mistaken, but based on your post above I can see why you are getting so defensive ''Stuff your face'' with them? I wouldn't call eating a large variety of plant based foods daily, stuffing your face, as long as you aren't exceeding your daily BMR in calories. Beta carotene consumption has not been shown to be a problem when it is consumed from a whole food source, only beta carotene supplement pills have been shown to be problematic. The over consumption of micronutrients is not a cause for concern when eating a healthy whole foods diet. Popping supplements is a different story. Also the beta carotene study was flawed: http://www.nutraingredients.com/Rese...flawed-Experts

i didn't know i was sounding defensive. by stuff your face, i was talking about quantity, not variety. i said in the next sentence that variety and sensible portions in the diet of the vegetarians were a good thing. i think we're agreeing on that but just misunderstanding each other.

that was the reason why i said the effects of high beta carotene consumption wasn't clear. there have been multiple studies, but the implications still aren't fully understood, and research on upper limits and dose responses of many micronutrients are still being studied. articles like this try to explore mechanisms in rar interaction that might explain beta carotene's connection to negative health effects. this doesnt mean that beta carotene is bad but theres still a lot more to learn about it.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22418437

although this is old, it does give a good summary of research on some micronutrients.
http://jn.nutrition.org/content/136/2/493S.full

toxicity exists but what those levels are and how they relate to food consumption still needs to be determined. eat food. not too much. mostly plants.

we do know that japan has the longest life expectancy, and most of the population there are not vegetarians. the oldest living woman right now is a japanese person and not a vegetarian.

[kingofthedemo]

Originally Posted by i dunno

i didn't know i was sounding defensive. by stuff your face, i was talking about quantity, not variety. i said in the next sentence that variety and sensible portions in the diet of the vegetarians were a good thing. i think we're agreeing on that but just misunderstanding each other.

I gotcha man, it's all good.

Originally Posted by i dunno

we do know that japan has the longest life expectancy, and most of the population there are not vegetarians. the oldest living woman right now is a japanese person and not a vegetarian.

I understand what you mean about the Japanese, it is an interesting observation. I saw a pretty interesting documentary on centenarians, the researchers determined that most of them have ''protective'' genes, that made their hazardous lifestyle choices less likely to result in disease. For example, many of the centenarians that they studied were two pack per day smokers, many were also technically obese with a bmi over 30. My great grandfather is still alive he's currently 103, he certainly ate his fair share of unhealthy foods, but he has good genes.

[i dunno]

Originally Posted by kingofthedemo

I understand what you mean about the Japanese, it is an interesting observation. I saw a pretty interesting documentary on centenarians, the researchers determined that most of them have ''protective'' genes, that made their hazardous lifestyle choices less likely to result in disease. For example, many of the centenarians that they studied were two pack per day smokers, many were also technically obese with a bmi over 30. My great grandfather is still alive he's currently 103, he certainly ate his fair share of unhealthy foods, but he has good genes.

this is why i dont like the china study. it completely dismisses genetic factors, saying that genes are simply regulated by nutrition. if thats the case, then its message of an all plant diet becomes inconsistent with the fact that japan enjoys excellent health despite consuming animal products.

its hard to ignore the impact of diet and lifestyle in japan too. there's an old study that examined the health of japanese natives and japanese americans. the most assimilated japanese americans in california had a significantly higher prevalence of heart disease. http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/content/104/3/225

a more recent study but only compares with japanese hawaiians: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/13679953

yes, i have a lot of free time.

[kingofthedemo]

Originally Posted by i dunno

this is why i dont like the china study. it completely dismisses genetic factors, saying that genes are simply regulated by nutrition. if thats the case, then its message of an all plant diet becomes inconsistent with the fact that japan enjoys excellent health despite consuming animal products.

I think that the Chinese study demonstrates how lifestyle choices influence the majority of people. Centenarians typically have ''protective genes'', but they are in the minority. In the case of people with ''protective genes'', their longevity is mainly attributed to their genes, not their lifestyles, but for the majority of people (those without ''protective genes') the opposite is true: their lifestyles determine their longevity.

On the other hand, I do think that the Japanese have a much healthier diet, than we do in the west, and I love Japanese style food!

[i dunno]

Originally Posted by kingofthedemo

I think that the Chinese study demonstrates how lifestyle choices influence the majority of people. Centenarians typically have ''protective genes'', but they are in the minority. In the case of people with ''protective genes'', their longevity is mainly attributed to their genes, not their lifestyles, but for the majority of people (those without ''protective genes') the opposite is true: their lifestyles determine their longevity.

On the other hand, I do think that the Japanese have a much healthier diet, than we do in the west, and I love Japanese style food!

saying that genes play a role in centenarian life spans is inconsistent with what the china study says. I think the study itself has some useful implications on lifestyle, but Campbell overreaches in assumptions. in the end, its an observational study that cant say anything about causation until there are randomized and controlled trials. I'd say most centenarians have a combination of good genes, diet, and lifestyle.

[kingofthedemo]

Originally Posted by i dunno

its an observational study that cant say anything about causation until there are randomized and controlled trials. I'd say most centenarians have a combination of good genes, diet, and lifestyle.

I think that you are really overreaching by claiming that nothing can be said of the results, in terms of causation. Just because it's an observational study, of a countries population, and not a case style study, doesn't mean it's finding are invalid.

How would you even propose a study of this scale could be possible in a randomized and controlled setting?

[PINeely]

Originally Posted by Litos

yeah, for $20/mth is not gonna kill me.....

plus, I have 1130 pics on it already HAHA !!!!

they just need to stop being retarded and fix the account that I paid or

Photobucket is free unless you need their premium service. I've got about 500 images in mine and it hasn't asked me for money yet.

[TXSTYLE]

Lemon-Herb and Olive Oil pan seared Tilapia Tacos

My recipe:
Ttlapia
Lemon & Herb seasoning
Olive Oil
Avocado
Fresh Salsa
Corn Tortilla

[kingofthedemo]

^^^

That looks good, I make something similar except I make mine with home made pico de gallo, and chipolte sauce. I usually substitute tortillas for green leaf lettuce wraps.

[upstatedoc]

I really don't like fish but I think I would smash that.

[PINeely]

Not a fan of fish tacos but that Tilapia looks delicious.

[Litos]

Originally Posted by TXSTYLE

Lemon-Herb and Olive Oil pan seared Tilapia Tacos

you know how I know you're black !?!?

CRUSH !!!!!!

[i dunno]

Originally Posted by TXSTYLE

Lemon-Herb and Olive Oil pan seared Tilapia Tacos

My recipe:
Ttlapia
Lemon & Herb seasoning
Olive Oil
Avocado
Fresh Salsa
Corn Tortilla

not the biggest fan of tilapia but that looks pretty damn good

[i dunno]

Originally Posted by kingofthedemo

I think that you are really overreaching by claiming that nothing can be said of the results, in terms of causation. Just because it's an observational study, of a countries population, and not a case style study, doesn't mean it's finding are invalid.

How would you even propose a study of this scale could be possible in a randomized and controlled setting?

i didn't say the findings were invalid. if you reread my post, i said that there are implications for lifestyle, but Campbell's conclusion is presumptuous and doesn't take into account cases like japan where they on average enjoy excellent health while consuming animal products. his research is interesting, but it warrants further investigation.

in terms of more controlled studies, i don't know, but scientists are smart people. science never got anywhere by saying, "oh this observational study is enough, and we can make conclusions with no further investigation." itll take time, but they'll figure it out. theres still a lot more research to do on diet and nutrition.

[MidwestGolfBum]

That fish has made me want to make some fish tacos now. For that, I thank you since I had no idea what I was making myself tonight.

[TXSTYLE]

hahahaha!!!

Glad you guys liked that. Very simple but oh so delicious!

The key is the high heat and searing the crushed spices for that yummy chard flavor.