[Nuckle]

Originally Posted by jamesinaz

Yeah but how many gun stores will have an unfortunate fire losing all their records if government suddenly starts asking for everyone on file? My guess is a lot.

My hope is that all will. I am not sure how long they are required to hold them.

[UncleWede]

Originally Posted by Nuckle

That paperwork could still be stored at the gun store they were purchased from but that would be the only place.

Not sure if Big-5 exists any more in Ventura mall

[chowser51]

FFLs shall retain each ATF Form 4473 for a period of not less than 20 years after the date of sale or disposition.

[jamesinaz]

Originally Posted by chowser51

FFLs shall retain each ATF Form 4473 for a period of not less than 20 years after the date of sale or disposition.

Problem I have is owning NFA. They know I have those and if the govt does get horsey they will search the entire house. I have no doubts I'll be an early searchee.

[chowser51]

I already know I'm hosed. I just got my FFL01 last year. I'm also up to 26 tax stamps.

[Shiza]

Originally Posted by chowser51

I already know I'm hosed. I just got my FFL01 last year. I'm also up to 26 tax stamps.

Might as well do your SOT 2 next, then you can have a ton of fun.

[Torgus]

Anyone use one of these: https://magpul.com/bad-lever-battery...obal_color=118

Thoughts?

[Shiza]

Originally Posted by Torgus

Anyone use one of these: https://magpul.com/bad-lever-battery...obal_color=118

Thoughts?

I use them on all my builds and have no complaints

[Innovade]

Originally Posted by Torgus

Anyone use one of these: https://magpul.com/bad-lever-battery...obal_color=118

Thoughts?

It rattles a lot. I prefer ambi lowers instead. All of my lowers are ADM.

[Shiza]

Originally Posted by Innovade

It rattles a lot. I prefer ambi lowers instead. All of my lowers are ADM.

Interesting, mine don't rattle at all. But I agree a full ambi lower is always a better option. If you're starting from scratch the LWRCI ambi lower is my favorite.

[EezyBeezy]

Magpul BADs are a go for me, no issues here.

[Hardeight27]

Originally Posted by jamesinaz

Yeah but how many gun stores will have an unfortunate fire losing all their records if government suddenly starts asking for everyone on file? My guess is a lot.

07 FFL here.
We have to keep 4473's for 20 years on sales and transfers.

The thing is, it doesn't matter.

After it leaves our hands, you are free to do what you want with it.
You could give it to your nephew, sell it to a co-worker or use if for a boat anchor. As long as your initial intent wasn't for a straw purchase, FFL doesn't care what happens to it after it leaves the store.

Speaking from experience having been contacted for traces before, they ask who and when about the transaction and they are off to the next stop.

As a civilian, as long as it isn't an NFA item, you can say I lost that gun yesterday and they can't really do much from that point on.

[Suds]

So how does the online gun transfer we have here in Texas, I assume that is a government site? So the government probably tracks purchases? I believe it was the Miranda form, or Brady act.

[Donatello.]

I now have a new backup EDC...XD-M Elite. Selling my Canik TP9 Elite SC. Only because I shoot the XD better. I still think I should have kepy my last XD9SC and this reinforces that.

Also selling my 1301 Tactical.

Recently picked up a Taurus G2C at a LGS (Impulse buy b/c I love my TX22). It shot well and then I put it up for sale because I really have no use for it, but pulled the ads shortly after because it's so little money that I'm better off keeping it & finding a use for it instead.

[chowser51]

ordered over the weekend. arrived today.
can't beat that 20% off sale and 3 extra mags.

[Donatello.]

Just replaced my Canik TP9 Elite SC with a XD-M Elite. I shoot the XD better.
Also put my Canik Rival-S Chrome up for sale

[Shiza]

Originally Posted by Donatello.

Just replaced my Canik TP9 Elite SC with a XD-M Elite. I shoot the XD better.
Also put my Canik Rival-S Chrome up for sale

I have the Canik TP9-SFX and while it's very accurate, feels like it wants to jump out of my hands compared to my Glocks or even 1911's.

[ErikJ1]

Originally Posted by Hardeight27

07 FFL here.
We have to keep 4473's for 20 years on sales and transfers.

The thing is, it doesn't matter.

After it leaves our hands, you are free to do what you want with it.
You could give it to your nephew, sell it to a co-worker or use if for a boat anchor. As long as your initial intent wasn't for a straw purchase, FFL doesn't care what happens to it after it leaves the store.

Speaking from experience having been contacted for traces before, they ask who and when about the transaction and they are off to the next stop.

As a civilian, as long as it isn't an NFA item, you can say I lost that gun yesterday and they can't really do much from that point on.

FBATFE.. they end up with the forms one way or another. I believe the FBATFE has a storage depot in NOVA..I have seen vids of it. Picture dozens and dozens of shipping containers in a parking lot..

I saw the truck leave from my local Gander Mtn that was full of boxes of the last 7 yrs of 4473's..the store when BK so..off they went

[KCuv]

ah christ. just found this thread. here goes my free time.

[Donut Lord]

Something smaller than a Glock 43, but close to the trust you can put in a Glock 43?

I am a skinny guy and I feel like I print way too much carrying my Glock 43. (could be my holster)

[ezaircon4jc]

Originally Posted by Donut Lord

Something smaller than a Glock 43, but close to the trust you can put in a Glock 43?

I am a skinny guy and I feel like I print way too much carrying my Glock 43. (could be my holster)

Tried the Ruger SR9c? I preferred it over my G26 until I lost it over the side....

[Donatello.]

Originally Posted by Donut Lord

Something smaller than a Glock 43, but close to the trust you can put in a Glock 43?

I am a skinny guy and I feel like I print way too much carrying my Glock 43. (could be my holster)

Go with a Hellcat or Hellcat Pro. I'm also a skinny guy, but never tuck in shorts & wear baggy shirts anyway. Carried a Hellcat for a while no problems. I swapped to a Pro because I shoot that better. Still no carry problems. I have also carried fullsize previously without issue.

I carry my pistols IWB & spare mag OWB.

Or just go pocket carry & get a Ruger LCP Max. I had an original LCP for years & replaced it with the Max. No regrets