[ynguldyn]

U06 raises its ugly and useless head.

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by bayarea328xit

Hey, ynguldyn,

Any news about the i3 update mentioned here?

Let Scott talk.

[Lp01]

ynguldyn

Hi!
For some time now it is not possible to order the F87/M2, at least in Europe, and it its EOP date was predicted to be in the end of the 1st semester 2021... Could this mean that the new M2 will arrive sooner than expected?
Regards

[indigo6]

Do we know if the removal of soft close doors on the X5 and “normal” 5 series is permanent? Or is it just for the 2021 model year due to supply chain issues?

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by Lp01

ynguldyn

Hi!
For some time now it is not possible to order the F87/M2, at least in Europe, and it its EOP date was predicted to be in the end of the 1st semester 2021... Could this mean that the new M2 will arrive sooner than expected?
Regards

https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1724200

However, European emissions regulations do not apply to the whole world.

[mbanck]

ynguldyn Did they cancel the 320e or was it bumped to 2021?

[Game]

Originally Posted by indigo6

Do we know if the removal of soft close doors on the X5 and “normal” 5 series is permanent? Or is it just for the 2021 model year due to supply chain issues?

Yeah I'd like to get an answer on this. Surprised how many customers have asked about this.

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by mbanck

ynguldyn Did they cancel the 320e or was it bumped to 2021?

My source still shows 11/20 as the SOP. Anything different from that means a marketing decision. Remember that I always had this caveat that marketing is invisible to me? This appears to be one of those situations.

[mbanck]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

My source still shows 11/20 as the SOP. Anything different from that means a marketing decision. Remember that I always had this caveat that marketing is invisible to me? This appears to be one of those situations.

Right, thanks. Could be that due to the newly introduced PHEV subsidies (at least in Germany), they consider the 330e to be selling well enough and decided to axe it.

[mammut]

Originally Posted by mbanck

Right, thanks. Could be that due to the newly introduced PHEV subsidies (at least in Germany), they consider the 330e to be selling well enough and decided to axe it.

I think we will see the 320e spec with the model updates for spring 2021, which sould be published by mid of january. Maybe they postponed it because of the battery recall.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

EOP for current models:
G20/G80 3er - 10/25 (LCI SOP 07/22)
G22/G82 4er - 06/27 (LCI SOP 03/24)
G23 4er - 10/27

Interesting.

G20 3er started production mid-October 2018. So no surprise that the 7th generation 3er gets an update (Life Cycle Impulse) mid 2022.

G80 M3: production started in November 2020 and first deliveries are scheduled to start in March 2021. So it seems that the launch version will already be replaced by an update mid 2022 (LCI start of production in July 2022).

But then again, the same happened with the F87 M2: deliveries started from April 16, 2016 onwards, LCI happened in 2017 (because of the F22 2er LCI) and production ended at the start of Summer 2018 (replaced by the M2 Competition from September 2018 onwards - moving from N55 engine to S55 engine because of tightened EU emissions regulations).

G82 M4: the launch version is expected to stay around longer, with an update early 2024 (LCI start of production in March 2024).

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by Artemis

But then again, the same happened with the F87 M2:

Yep. It happened with the G80 M3 and E90 M3 also.

This is a direct consequence of the delay between the debut of a new generation product and the arrival of its M transformation. BMW has tightened up that timeline with many M vehicles, but the M2 and M3 still lag.

G82 M4: the launch version is expected to stay around longer, with an update early 2024 (LCI start of production in March 2024).

The delay between the 3 Series and 4 Series is painful for those who want the latter, but the M4 buyer benefits in that the development is shared with the M3.

If there were a G40 2 Series sedan, its quite likely that it’s M counterpart and the G87 M2 would arrive just after the release of the G42.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

Yep. It happened with the G80 M3 and E90 M3 also.

This is a direct consequence of the delay between the debut of a new generation product and the arrival of its M transformation. BMW has tightened up that timeline with many M vehicles, but the M2 and M3 still lag.

As the LCI will already be available in the second half of 2022, it might facilitate G80 M3 early adopters to claim that they have a first edition 'limited edition'.

Anyways, often, most LCI changes are retrofittable.

[indigo6]

Originally Posted by Game

Yeah I'd like to get an answer on this. Surprised how many customers have asked about this.

Hopefully ynguldyn can help us on this one

[Wild Blue]

Originally Posted by Wild Blue

Very interested in the G07 X7 LCI. Listed in the first post here as start of production in 8/22, for MY2023. But we're already seeing multiple LCI spyshots, so that seems quite off in the future. Could the LCI be moving up to MY2022?

Still curious about this. G07 LCI staying MY2023, or getting moved up to MY2022?

[BimmerMat135]

I wonder if the G42 M240i will be available with a manual transmission or if we’ll have to go all the way to the G87?

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by BimmerMat135

I wonder if the G42 M240i will be available with a manual transmission or if we’ll have to go all the way to the G87?

Strictly speaking we may not know for certain, but practically speaking, if BMW intended to continue with the B58 / MT combo then they’d not have limited it only to one vehicle. It’s almost surely an S58-only affair now, and at the end of the decade, it’ll be gone for good.

[V-Eight]

when the G20 LCI test mule are expected to hit the road? In order to make us see if the taillights will change?
I'm to order the M3...but if the LCI is arriving within a year...it's better to wait another year instead of buying it this spring....

[Josh-PA]

Thanks for all the posted info. Do you have any theories or inside info on what will be included in the G01 X3 LCI that is scheduled to SOP 07/21?

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by Josh-PA

Thanks for all the posted info. Do you have any theories or inside info on what will be included in the G01 X3 LCI that is scheduled to SOP 07/21?

Cosmetics.

[LogicalApex]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

Cosmetics.

It will also be bumped up to "SP18" or later? To get RSU, etc.

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

Cosmetics.

Did the G01/G02 already get the 48V B58? I was expecting that for the LCI.

Speaking of 48V, any signs of that for the B48 yet? IIRC, in the four cylinder family, only the B47 diesel has been updated with 48V to date.