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      04-10-2024, 01:25 PM   #7459
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This will be used to stop power plant construction by the Green Insanity. Once ICE are banned, it will also be used to ban EV's. Hail Gaia!
I loved this quote "An electric future with no electricity is no future at all". How difficult to understand it. May be like ppl said, you can't teach stupid
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"Can't fix stupid" When you read some of the Gaia insanity, they think 200 to 400 million select people on the earth is the right number.
The sustainable number is 8 billion. Current population is 8,040,535,540 as of 25 seconds ago.
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It is now 8,040,536,000.
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It is now 8,040,536,000.
One or two engineered bat viruses should take care of that problem.
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How does it feel to live in a constant state of denial?
OMG so much better. Lower risk of MACE and death. Better relationships with others.
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BMW EV's are sitting on lots and Canadian dealers are desperate to give them away. Many different color and many different options to pick I never come across with BMW Canada that will offer that kind of low lease interest rate (1.99%). I think it tell you something
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BMW Group continues on BEV growth path: Milestone of one million fully-electric vehicles reached

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[B]Sulfur hexafluoride
“Measurements of SF6 show that its global average mixing ratio has increased from a steady base of about 54 parts per quadrillion[10] prior to industrialization, to over 11.5 parts per trillion (ppt) as of October 2023, and is increasing by about 0.4 ppt (3.5 percent) per year.[8][42] Average global SF6 concentrations increased by about seven percent per year during the 1980s and 1990s, mostly as the result of its use in magnesium production, and by electrical utilities and electronics manufacturers. Given the small amounts of SF6 released compared to carbon dioxide, its overall individual contribution to global warming is estimated to be less than 0.2 percent,[43] however the collective contribution of it and similar man-made halogenated gases has reached about 10 percent as of 2020.[44] Alternatives are being tested.[45][46]” wikipedia

Facts over feelings.
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      04-10-2024, 02:50 PM   #7468
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wikipedia
Sorry I'll take MIT over wikipedia any day.
If you spent more time reading and less time trying to play gotcha you might not embarrass yourself as often.
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The sources are journals you pillock. Of which MIT has to apply for peer review, just like everyone else.
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Wikipedia is AI generated content - curated by the government. Even Wikipedia's creators admit this.
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As long 3-pedals are an option, I will exercise my right to suffer the handicap and indignity of slower shifts and reaction times.
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Wikipedia is AI generated content - curated by the government. Even Wikipedia's creators admit this.
Source? Genuinely.
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Source? Genuinely.
https://www.the-independent.com/news...-b1885138.html

https://www.blacklistednews.com/arti...cade-wiki.html

AI was being trained to write articles since before 2018

https://www.theregister.com/2018/02/..._ai_wikipedia/

AI already writes articles - Though I can't prove it, I think a lot of what we considered trolls on websites, and "propoganda" with poor spelling and grammatical mistakes were actually AI testing.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...hatgpt-article

AI wrote that.

Additionally, you can tell that Wikipedia is written by AI because they all share the same tone. AI on Google and Bing can basically compile and do the same thing - and the same "neutral" tone.
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BMW EV's are sitting on lots and Canadian dealers are desperate to give them away. Many different color and many different options to pick I never come across with BMW Canada that will offer that kind of low lease interest rate (1.99%). I think it tell you something
You're being selective to try to prove a point. Here's the rest of the story...

BMW Canada is offering the following for ICE cars for the same 24 months at 1.49%:

2024 X1 xiDrive28i
2024 X3 xDrive30i
2024 330i xDrive Sedan
2024 M440i xDrive Coupe & Cabriolet

These are all better rates for ICE cars than the 1.99% for EV's over the same 24-month term.

Frankly, I think this thread should be move to the Off-Topic board because much of the conversation has more to do with the debate about climate change than about actual cars.
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Almost as soon as Wikipedia was created, it became useless, if you cared about facts that is.
For complicated and nuanced topics such as fiscal policy and governance, no, wikipedia is not a good source. For basic frameworks of a concept or properties? Wikipedia does just fine.

You telling me you believe what bIg DiCtIoNaRy wants you to believe?
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"When asked by Unherd.com if Wikipedia can be trusted, he replied: ‘You can trust it to give a reliably establishment point of view on pretty much everything."

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Plug-In Nightmare: Tesla Owners Wait Hours to Charge Electric Vehicles After Eclipse
10 Apr 2024
“(The eclipse) was spectacular, but I had to rush back because I noticed the battery on my Tesla was running low and all the charging stations at Jay Peak were taken,” Monica Livesey told WCVB.
Livesey, who is from Wakefield, Massachusetts, and drove to Vermont in an EV on Monday to see the total solar eclipse, said her return home was made worse for her family — as well as other Tesla owners — when they all had to search for charging stations in rural areas.
And when they eventually did find a charging station in St. Johnsbury, Vermont, there were met with long lines of electric vehicles, she said.
“I got there with one mile only to find out there were about 60 cars waiting to be charged,” Livesey told the outlet.
The Livesey family reportedly helped a couple try to organize the lines by handing out numbers that made electric vehicle drivers wait their turn to charge.
The Livesey family ended up waiting more than four hours to charge their Tesla, and got home at 4:00 a.m. on Tuesday. They noted that the last ticket they handed out was number 189, and that they saw more people pulling up to the charging stations as they left.
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Imagine if you will a natural disaster like a forest fire or hurricane with with tens of thousands of EV's trying to charge along the evacuation route.
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"When asked by Unherd.com if Wikipedia can be trusted, he replied: ‘You can trust it to give a reliably establishment point of view on pretty much everything."

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Dig deeper. Be more present when you read.
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Imagine if you will a natural disaster like a forest fire or hurricane with with tens of thousands of EV's trying to charge along the evacuation route.
Do EVs and natural disasters not currently coexist?
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Do EVs and natural disasters not currently coexist?
Once again you go for the gotcha and not doing your home work.

Researchers sound alarm about electric vehicles and hurricane evacuations

The Princeton study concluded that due to all these issues, a wholesale adaptation of electric vehicles is not recommended for disaster-prone areas like Florida. It “may not be economical” for utility companies to prepare for these rare disaster scenarios and the peak demand it would entail, they found. As a result, the Princeton researchers concluded that hybrid vehicles could be a happy medium of helping reach climate goals while keeping Floridians safe during a disaster. Or for a family with two vehicles, it might make sense to keep at least one non-electric vehicle (or a hybrid), even once electric vehicles reach critical mass in the future.
https://www.wlrn.org/news/2022-09-29...ne-evacuations

Honestly it pains me to see you get yourself in these situation.
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Dig deeper. Be more present when you read.
Dig and be more present...uh, yeah.


It's known.
It has been known.
Most everyone knows it. I say most.

"You believe what you want to believe, but you don't have to live like a refugee"
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