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      07-14-2024, 10:49 PM   #67
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Anybody see interior dimensions published on the USA website? Usually they show them in a link named technical specs. They typically show little cartoon profiles of the vehicle. I’m curious what the headroom is when sitting in the drivers seat.
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The ambient lighting strips can't be deleted. But they can be turned off or set to different colors. See this video starting at the 17:50 mark:


From photos, they look OK when turned off. I'm not sure how I feel about them, but I probably can just leave them off if they truly annoy me.
The aggravating part about leaving them off is that they are a feature that you're paying for, that's now worthless to you. If I start looking for a new car and have to tally up the number of things I need to disable, turn off, or out and out defeat before I can get it where I want it, I tend to keep looking.
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      07-15-2024, 11:17 AM   #69
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Unfortunately no coding back the LED matrix beam masking in the US. I wouldn't want to be without this, it’s a real pisser.
The other thing about that is the way the lights behave in fog. When my lights weren't coded driving in the fog was not great, especially since they ditched discrete fog lights (thanks BMW). With the coded lights I was driving with the auto high beams on, in fog Saturday night and they behaved better than low beams with separate fog lights. For those of us who drive in areas that get fog BMWs failure to make headlights corresponding to the latest US standard, or at least supplying separate fog lights is another "we don't GAF about the US consumer".
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Set here- trading in our 2022 X3 M40i. Not bad fully loaded
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Set here- trading in our 2022 X3 M40i. Not bad fully loaded
Is that Dark Graphite Metallic?
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      07-17-2024, 06:02 PM   #72
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So this is what I got from my Sales Advisor regarding the "Acoustic Glazing" - "The rep found what you are talking about in the global release but there is no description of what acoustic glazing really means. Acoustic glass is always double pane. Glazing sounds like tint and would be a weird way to say double paned but he is looking into it."

Be disappointing if there's no acoustic glass available. Unless they tightened up the window tracks.
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So this is what I got from my Sales Advisor regarding the "Acoustic Glazing" - "The rep found what you are talking about in the global release but there is no description of what acoustic glazing really means. Acoustic glass is always double pane. Glazing sounds like tint and would be a weird way to say double paned but he is looking into it."

Be disappointing if there's no acoustic glass available. Unless they tightened up the window tracks.
Doubtful it would be available on the X3, it hasn't been since MY20 on the X5 in the US.
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I am from Canada, I believe current G01 have acoustic glass with Wind Shield (the glass guy who replace my chipped one confirm that)... and G45 will have Wind Shield + Front side window... as per Canada and US G45 order guide.

Anybody here have spent time compare G45 M50 against Audi Q6 e-tron? The price is similar, one ICE and one EV.
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So this is what I got from my Sales Advisor regarding the "Acoustic Glazing" - "The rep found what you are talking about in the global release but there is no description of what acoustic glazing really means. Acoustic glass is always double pane. Glazing sounds like tint and would be a weird way to say double paned but he is looking into it."

Be disappointing if there's no acoustic glass available. Unless they tightened up the window tracks.
The word "Glazing" just means glass used for windows etc, not tint, and it's commonplace here to refer to window glass as "glazing" - https://www.collinsdictionary.com/di...nglish/glazing

In BMW information, Acoustic side glass is two panes of glass laminated with a film bonded between them, and it is thicker than normal side glass. It's been suggested that on the G01 BMW uses the same window seals and that the thicker acoustic glass has a tighter seal.

BMW also mentions on some models that the acoustic windscreen glass is also thicker than regular laminated windscreen glass.
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Is that Dark Graphite Metallic?
Yes!
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Best color I’ve seen so far.

I have a ‘22 X4 m40i in Brooklyn Grey. I don’t think that color or the new Dune works as well on this M50 because of the black that crawls upwards on the front of the car.
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Set here- trading in our 2022 X3 M40i. Not bad fully loaded
Frozen GT- May I ask what drove you to trade in your 2022 X3 M40i for the new M50. After taxes and everything else you basically dropped $30K for the M50 and for the life of me I can’t find $30K of improvements in the new M50.

The M40i you decided to let go of remains one of the best SUV’s on the planet for under $100K.

Just curious how you rationalized the spend (if you don’t mind sharing).
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Well, here's what I got back. Got to love her, she's trying. "My rep said he is still finding out, but the stance seems to be that the glass itself is thicker, making it "acoustic" but not double pane like other cars. The X2 has it and the X1 doesn't, meaning the engineers felt it was necessary to quiet down wind noise at the front end of the car. The engineers for the X3 boasted a seamless side mirror vs the previous gen, making it quieter. He is still going to find out what it exactly means, but he test drove the new X3 and did say it was quieter than the previous gen. "
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Well, here's what I got back. Got to love her, she's trying. "My rep said he is still finding out, but the stance seems to be that the glass itself is thicker, making it "acoustic" but not double pane like other cars. The X2 has it and the X1 doesn't, meaning the engineers felt it was necessary to quiet down wind noise at the front end of the car. The engineers for the X3 boasted a seamless side mirror vs the previous gen, making it quieter. He is still going to find out what it exactly means, but he test drove the new X3 and did say it was quieter than the previous gen. "
In lieu of an SPL meter, this can be done casually by anyone w/an Apple Watch using the "Noise" app on back to back G01 vs G45 test drives!
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In lieu of an SPL meter, this can be done casually by anyone w/an Apple Watch using the "Noise" app on back to back G01 vs G45 test drives!
I bought a cheap DB meter from Amazon. Works well. When I compared my X3 to my spouse's Q5 I was suitably depressed.
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I bought a cheap DB meter from Amazon. Works well. When I compared my X3 to my spouse's Q5 I was suitably depressed.
What was the reading on the X3?
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What was the reading on the X3?
Going by memory mid-upper 70's. I really should repeat it across both cars just to see how they're aging.
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Going by memory mid-upper 70's. I really should repeat it across both cars just to see how they're aging.
70s dB is pretty bad. Might as well not have windows since that's similar to a washing machine or air conditioner!

https://noiseawareness.org/info-cent...-noise-levels/
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Well, here's what I got back. Got to love her, she's trying. "My rep said he is still finding out, but the stance seems to be that the glass itself is thicker, making it "acoustic" but not double pane like other cars. The X2 has it and the X1 doesn't, meaning the engineers felt it was necessary to quiet down wind noise at the front end of the car. The engineers for the X3 boasted a seamless side mirror vs the previous gen, making it quieter. He is still going to find out what it exactly means, but he test drove the new X3 and did say it was quieter than the previous gen. "
The previous gen with or without acoustic glass. Wonder if it’s the same engineer that decided the US G01 didn’t need acoustic glass anymore ?

Basically, they have no idea, as it’s more than just “wind noise”.
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The previous gen with or without acoustic glass. Wonder if it’s the same engineer that decided the US G01 didn’t need acoustic glass anymore ?

Basically, they have no idea, as it’s more than just “wind noise”.
Yup, they be slinging the bull.
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70s dB is pretty bad. Might as well not have windows since that's similar to a washing machine or air conditioner!

https://noiseawareness.org/info-cent...-noise-levels/
Strangely, that's how I feel about it.....
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I can tell you for certain in the decibels as I had taken measurements before/after purchasing mine. In my Audi Allroad with all-season tires & acoustic glass, my decibel readings were mid-to-low 60 db's when driving between 70-80 MPH.
When my X3 M40i was brand new with the stock RFT's at the same speeds, it was in the low 70's db's. So you could say there was about 5-6 db difference between the two with/without the acoustic glass.
Since I put new wheels & DSW06+ tires on this spring, my readings are about 64-66 db's. So tire swap alone reduced it greatly. Now if it had the front acoustic glass, I'd presume it would lower it at least down to 60 decibels.
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