[stein_325i]

The Lucid Air Gran Touring and Dream Editions with various wheel sizes have officially been rated by the EPA.

With ranges varying from 451 to 520 miles, it holds the top spots of highest range ratings by the EPA.

[espressoo]

Originally Posted by ntg44

Why is nobody talking about the cut on the trunk body line? It's horrendous.

Overall design looks promising but I agree the trunk lid going that low looks odd. In a fender bender type impact with say an CUV/SUV, instead of replacing only the rear bumper cover, the trunk will also be damaged? Insurance companies are smart and will factor this in and the cost to insure will likely be higher vs a comparable Tesla Model S or other premium sedans out there.

[obert]

There is a dealer about to open in Seattle. Out of my price range but still a nice looking car.

[stein_325i]

Dreams Come True: Lucid Confirms First Customer Deliveries to Take Place on October 30

Originally Posted by Lucid Motors

NEWARK, Calif., Oct. 27, 2021 /PRNewswire/ -- Lucid Group (NASDAQ:LCID), which is setting new standards with its advanced luxury EVs, today announced initial customer deliveries of the Dream Edition launch versions of Lucid Air, which sets new benchmarks in range and efficiency for electric vehicles. The first group of Dream Edition reservation holders are invited to take delivery of their vehicles on Saturday, October 30. Highlights will be shared on Lucid's social media channels throughout the weekend. The Dream Delivery event follows the company's start of production last month at Lucid's factory in Casa Grande, Arizona, the first greenfield, dedicated electric vehicle manufacturing facility in North America.

Initial customer deliveries of the Lucid Air Dream Edition, which sets new benchmarks in range and efficiency for electric vehicles as the first with more than 500 miles of range, will begin on Saturday, October 30, 2021.

Upon receipt of their cars, these initial customers will embark upon the inaugural Lucid Rally, hosted by members of the company's leadership team on a route that showcases the vehicle's standout ride, handling, and performance capabilities, before departing in their personally-configured Lucid Air Dream Edition, reflecting their preference of Range or Performance models.

All Dream Edition models are equipped with a special 118kWh version of Lucid's long-range battery pack, featuring 22 modules totaling 6,600 cylindrical cells with a chemistry engineered to optimize performance and range. The Dream Edition Range achieves an estimated 520 miles on a single charge according to the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), making it the longest range for any electric car rated by the organization. It delivers 4.4 miles per kWh, a mark surpassed only by another version of Lucid Air, the Grand Touring, which features a 112kWh battery pack and achieves 4.6 miles per kWh. The Dream Edition Performance model offers 1,111 horsepower, achieving a 0-60 mph time of just 2.42 seconds and a quarter-mile time of 9.67 seconds (with the 21" wheels and tire package) – while still capable of an EPA-estimated 471 miles of range (with the 19" wheel and tire package).

"Creating the Lucid Air has truly been a labor of love, with customer deliveries representing the culmination of years of endeavor from the entire Lucid team," said Peter Rawlinson, CEO and CTO, Lucid Group. "So I'm truly excited to hand the keys to our first dear customers and accompany them on an inaugural drive through the iconic California countryside."

Lucid plans to deliver 520 customer-configured Lucid Air Dream Editions, followed by deliveries of Lucid Air Grand Touring versions. Touring and Pure models are anticipated for delivery to customers during 2022.

[Germanauto]

Originally Posted by obert

There is a dealer about to open in Seattle. Out of my price range but still a nice looking car.

They'll sell plenty. During my undergrad at the UW I worked at the Tesla Bellevue store. This was around the time the Model S had hit the market. I recall, at that time at least, we had the highest sales of any Tesla center in the nation outside of California.

[cremem3]

I really hope Lucid is able to scale production. We've seen so many of these EV companies come and go, and inevitably the issue is they've been run by bean counters instead of product people or they go completely south underestimating the cost of production. The graveyard list of promise is long. Fisker, Faraday Future, Nikola..

The early product looks appealing, but part of me wonders if this can catch up in other areas with Tesla (miles recorded on FSD w/ depth mapping and edge case coverage, supercharging network, Hertz deal, economies of scale). Love the range, but this is just a first step of a longer battle of chewing glass and staring into the abyss.

[stein_325i]

[jeffm82]

Originally Posted by espressoo

Overall design looks promising but I agree the trunk lid going that low looks odd. In a fender bender type impact with say an CUV/SUV, instead of replacing only the rear bumper cover, the trunk will also be damaged? Insurance companies are smart and will factor this in and the cost to insure will likely be higher vs a comparable Tesla Model S or other premium sedans out there.

Agreed

[willin11]

Looks wise : loveee itttttttt

[stein_325i]

Stopped by the Tysons store today and took a look. Overall a really nice car, looks good both inside and out in the flesh. They were very adamant on not being a Tesla competitor but rather Mercedes and Porsche. Will be very interested to see how they do.

[dgoldenz]

Wtf is that roof tho?

[stein_325i]

Originally Posted by dgoldenz

Wtf is that roof tho?

Apparently its not for production cars, they will get a normal silver/aluminum roof. The car in the store was a pre-production unit.

[AlexFL]

This car makes the Model S look like a toaster from Walmart. Bravo, Lucid!

[FCX5]

Originally Posted by stein_325i

Stopped by the Tysons store today and took a look. Overall a really nice car, looks good both inside and out in the flesh. They were very adamant on not being a Tesla competitor but rather Mercedes and Porsche. Will be very interested to see how they do.

Same here. Stoped by the same store. It looks so much nicer than a Model S. I agree, this is a Taycan beater. Can't imagine buying a Model S over the Air. My 2 cents. LOL

[stein_325i]

Originally Posted by MotorTrend

With futuristic looks, a futuristic powertrain and futuristic performance and economy, is the Lucid Air the car of the future? At the very least, it's our 2022 MotorTrend Car of the Year, having impressed the judges and pushed the frontiers of electric performance and luxury vehicles far forward, with aces in all six criteria. Hear from the MotorTrend editorial team how Lucid pulled off such a feat in its first go.

[Tambohamilton]

Originally Posted by stein_325i

Good!

[dreamingat30fps]

Interior, specs and price all seem to be better than the Model S (based on what’s listed on their site), but I dunno what people see in that exterior design. I find it pretty damn ugly. As plain as the Model S looks I think it looks 100x better than this. It has a very old man look to it. That different color roof even makes it look like that fake soft top shit old people would get on their buicks… know what I’m talking about??

The interior is very nice though, definitely better than Model S. Hopefully they will give Tesla some competition. I do wonder how their service/dealer network is though. It’s been 50/50 for me with Tesla service. Only went to service center once and it sucked ass. However the other times they have sent a tech to my house which was super easy and convenient so not sure.

[stein_325i]

Originally Posted by dreamingat30fps

Interior, specs and price all seem to be better than the Model S (based on what's listed on their site), but I dunno what people see in that exterior design. I find it pretty damn ugly. As plain as the Model S looks I think it looks 100x better than this. It has a very old man look to it. That different color roof even makes it look like that fake soft top shit old people would get on their buicks… know what I'm talking about??

The interior is very nice though, definitely better than Model S. Hopefully they will give Tesla some competition. I do wonder how their service/dealer network is though. It's been 50/50 for me with Tesla service. Only went to service center once and it sucked ass. However the other times they have sent a tech to my house which was super easy and convenient so not sure.

Service and Body Shop work will definitely be in the teething stage. Interestingly Lucid just received permits to open a service center in Tyson's Galleria.

Planning Commission OKs luxury car service center at Tysons Galleria

[stein_325i]

[Germanauto]

Originally Posted by stein_325i

I love these guys but they sound disingenuous here, trying to sell a 5000 lb+ boat as some sort of corner carving driver's car.

I drive these canyons a lot, what matters most is having a small and light car. These massive EVs have their own gravitational pull, yet everybody in the media tries to hype them up as if they are Porsche 911s.

[Sedoy]

I agree mostly, I think EV reviewers need to mention that EVs handle very good for their weight. Pound for pound, most EVs will outhandle ICE due to low center of gravity and the weight being evenly distributed between axles. Plus with independently controlled electric motors you can do really cool torque vectoring. For example, Model S Plaid just did 1.08G skidpad in C&D review, for comparison BMW M5 CS did 1.02G being like 700 lbs. lighter..
My problem is that people need to realize that they don't need that massive battery with 600+ miles of range, all they need is a fast & reliable changing network and 250+ miles of range. I will take a 3500 lbs 250 miles range EV with a good insulation (no stupid 8 ft glass roof) and a heat pump for cold days range.

Originally Posted by Germanauto

I love these guys but they sound disingenuous here, trying to sell a 5000 lb+ boat as some sort of corner carving driver's car.

I drive these canyons a lot, what matters most is having a small and light car. These massive EVs have their own gravitational pull, yet everybody in the media tries to hype them up as if they are Porsche 911s.

[Germanauto]

Originally Posted by Sedoy

I agree mostly, I think most EV reviewers need to mention that EVs handle very good for their weight. Pound for pound, most EVs will outhandle ICE due to low center of gravity and the weight being evenly distributed between axles. Plus with independently controlled electric motors you can do really cool torque vectoring. For example, Model S Plaid just did 1.08G skidpad in C&D review, for comparison BMW M5 CS did 1.02G being like 700 lbs. lighter..
My problem is that people need to realize that they don't need massive battery with 600+ miles of range, all they need is a good reliable changing network and 250+ miles of range. I will take a 3500 lbs 250 miles range EV with a good insulation (no stupid 8 ft glass roof) and a heat pump for cold days range.

EVs are a cheat code that have democratized acceleration and handling to any and every car regardless of segment in the market. Objectively speaking they are superior to our beloved ICE, but subjectively it is up to the individual and their expectations/experience level with good driver's cars. A lot of the pro-EV crowd used to drive Priuses and Subarus so to them their Tesla is a "sports car." For the actual driving enthusiasts it's a different story.

We will just have to wait and see who can create an actual proper EV driver's car. Save for the EV Boxster and Giulia (which are a few years away) I am not seeing any such contenders. By all accounts the i4 is just a heavier and less focused version of the already ho-hum driving 4-series.